Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

dilvish · Feb 9, 2015

confession: i don't own a persei. i've been using the core through the omicron to power my hercules.
so, if i buy a hammer top and a persei ss kit, will i have everything i need to use the hercules untethered to the core? i already have 18650s. are there any disadvantages to going about it that way? does the hammer top have an on/off feature, like the omicron? how does the hammer top do with kiss cartridges?

k3nd4l · Feb 9, 2015

dilvish said:
confession: i don't own a persei. i've been using the core through the omicron to power my hercules.
so, if i buy a hammer top and a persei ss kit, will i have everything i need to use the hercules untethered to the core? i already have 18650s. are there any disadvantages to going about it that way? does the hammer top have an on/off feature, like the omicron? how does the hammer top do with kiss cartridges?

i lost my persei a couple months back.. (dont know where i put it. was on my last of oil before a break. got to high. forgot where i placed it. couldnt find it a couple weeks later). anyways i bought
1)the hammer top
2)the ss kit
3)2 batteries (your using the core? so you wont need i think.. i dont own one)
the hammer top has an on/off feature. it works very nicely with the kiss carts

THC SCIENTIFIC said:
Imag is a herbal vaporizer, I'll get the dimensions for the vaporizer, it uses. 300 mah battery, it's about the size of a Minicron lot but thinner, still working on iris and thanks for reminding me I'll double check the mini kiss and why you can't order it.

so it can do oil on its own and herb on its own. or if you choose both at the same time? or it only does herb. If it only does herb you need to update your site description of it! any time frame for the iris? and yea i havent seen the kiss mini in stock. whats the difference between that and the regular kiss ti gr2 by the way?

Fredster951 · Feb 9, 2015

dilvish said:
confession: i don't own a persei. i've been using the core through the omicron to power my hercules.
so, if i buy a hammer top and a persei ss kit, will i have everything i need to use the hercules untethered to the core? i already have 18650s. are there any disadvantages to going about it that way? does the hammer top have an on/off feature, like the omicron? how does the hammer top do with kiss cartridges?

All you need is a hammer top to use the persei on the Core. The Core comes with bottom tubes. Honestly the hvd omicron can handle the SR fine with the core. Unless you want the persei size for comfort while using or want to go battery portable. In that case I recommend a 8.

dilvish · Feb 9, 2015

k3nd4l said:
i lost my persei a couple months back.. (dont know where i put it. was on my last of oil before a break. got to high. forgot where i placed it. couldnt find it a couple weeks later). anyways i bought
1)the hammer top
2)the ss kit
3)2 batteries (your using the core? so you wont need i think.. i dont own one)
the hammer top has an on/off feature. it works very nicely with the kiss carts

Fredster951 said:
All you need is a hammer top to use the persei on the Core. The Core comes with bottom tubes. Honestly the hvd omicron can handle the SR fine with the core. Unless you want the persei size for comfort while using or want to go battery portable. In that case I recommend a 8.

i do want to be able to use it without the core. thanks for the answers. @Fredster951 why the 8? seems all i ever hear about the 8 is problems with the button assembly. i'm interested, but what makes it so good?

lonelyhero · Feb 9, 2015

I've been trying to decide if I should buy a core I currently have 3 sets of aw's 2 sets of 350's and one set of 650's

I'd like to have the pass through but seen a lot of people complain of the cord being hard to maneuver and in some cases not making a good connection @THC SCIENTIFIC are there any plans for a revised core ? Or maybe I should just wait for the iris and live without the pass through

mixchu69 · Feb 9, 2015

I've been using the core in the car exclusively and never had any problems.

Fredster951 · Feb 9, 2015

dilvish said:
i do want to be able to use it without the core. thanks for the answers. @Fredster951 why the 8? seems all i ever hear about the 8 is problems with the button assembly. i'm interested, but what makes it so good?

The reason I recommend the 8 to the experienced UP Tech user is the following;
1.)Fully serviceable, the 8 can be fully disassembled. Every single part can be broken down and cleaned. If your 8 stops working you can fix it yourself at home. No down time. Compared to sending in Product to get repaired, the downtime is significant. I usually find my 8 just to need a 1/8 screw adjustment once in a while. No dreaded 3 flashes. Other than that, it's solid!
2.) Durability, the 8 is hand down a heavy combat tank. Very durable. Very heavy quality feel to it. The 8 is simple and houses few parts. All these parts are super durable. Stainless steel, PTFE Teflon , and gold plated connections is all the 8 contains. Proven and durable materials.
3.) Universal, the 8 is universal. Like the Persei it is 3.7/7.4v mode. You also have 610/510 on the go. The 8 does not discriminate against sub ohm coils. It will run any coil at any ohm resistance value. For the brave, you can run 11v set up.

All said and done, there is a few things you should know about the 8 before you man the gun is;

1.) The 8 is for advanced users. You need to set it up to work and fire consistently. You need to learn this device. Once you learn it you will find what needs to be checked once in a while. For example my 8 will misfire once in a blue moon. When it does, it's almost always the center button screw coming loose. I just tighten it 1/8 of a turn and the aftermath is clouds.
2.) No short protection, no circuit board to keep you safe. You must assemble the SR71/74 correctly and the 8 to prevent a short. I don't meant to scare anyone because this is not rocket science. At most maybe a collapsed spring if using proper OEM equipment. No off feature so don't store it where it can be activated by accident. Just be safe and you will be fine. If you can assemble a SR cartridge correctly, the 8 is a piece of cake.

THC SCIENTIFIC · Feb 9, 2015

lonelyhero said:
I've been trying to decide if I should buy a core I currently have 3 sets of aw's 2 sets of 350's and one set of 650's

I'd like to have the pass through but seen a lot of people complain of the cord being hard to maneuver and in some cases not making a good connection @THC SCIENTIFIC are there any plans for a revised core ? Or maybe I should just wait for the iris and live without the pass through

No plans for a core v2

@Fredster951 the 8 comes with a protection circuit actually and is required to be used. That is a consumable item and if you have an extra one your good to go.

Also side note the Kiss mini is now available to purchase.

Breathemetal · Feb 10, 2015

So what batteries do i need to run 7.4v?
Im getting 3 aw imr 350s..but thats just for 3.7v right? Im new to this battery config thing

Fredster951 · Feb 10, 2015

Breathemetal said:
So what batteries do i need to run 7.4v?
Im getting 3 aw imr 350s..but thats just for 3.7v right? Im new to this battery config thing

X1 18650 for 3.7v
X2 18350 for 7.4v

SamuraiSam · Feb 10, 2015

UP Tech photobhombing a Mothership Elite graal tech honey bucket earlier this evening

Breathemetal · Feb 10, 2015

Fredster951 said:
X1 18650 for 3.7v
X2 18350 for 7.4v

So the 18350 doesn't run 3.7 ever?
I thought it was a 3.7 battery and double stacking allows for 7.4 wouldn't one just provide 3.7?

dilvish · Feb 10, 2015

Fredster951 said:
The reason I recommend the 8 to the experienced UP Tech user is the following;
1.)Fully serviceable, the 8 can be fully disassembled. Every single part can be broken down and cleaned. If your 8 stops working you can fix it yourself at home. No down time. Compared to sending in Product to get repaired, the downtime is significant. I usually find my 8 just to need a 1/8 screw adjustment once in a while. No dreaded 3 flashes. Other than that, it's solid!
2.) Durability, the 8 is hand down a heavy combat tank. Very durable. Very heavy quality feel to it. The 8 is simple and houses few parts. All these parts are super durable. Stainless steel, PTFE Teflon , and gold plated connections is all the 8 contains. Proven and durable materials.
3.) Universal, the 8 is universal. Like the Persei it is 3.7/7.4v mode. You also have 610/510 on the go. The 8 does not discriminate against sub ohm coils. It will run any coil at any ohm resistance value. For the brave, you can run 11v set up.

All said and done, there is a few things you should know about the 8 before you man the gun is;

1.) The 8 is for advanced users. You need to set it up to work and fire consistently. You need to learn this device. Once you learn it you will find what needs to be checked once in a while. For example my 8 will misfire once in a blue moon. When it does, it's almost always the center button screw coming loose. I just tighten it 1/8 of a turn and the aftermath is clouds.
2.) No short protection, no circuit board to keep you safe. You must assemble the SR71/74 correctly and the 8 to prevent a short. I don't meant to scare anyone because this is not rocket science. At most maybe a collapsed spring if using proper OEM equipment. No off feature so don't store it where it can be activated by accident. Just be safe and you will be fine. If you can assemble a SR cartridge correctly, the 8 is a piece of cake.

this all got me pretty excited about the 8, to be honest. that sounds like the vape for me.

i have a broader question, to anyone with an opinion: just how safe is it to stack batteries? in the ecig world (as many of you surely know), it's said to be super dangerous, but in this context, it seems like the norm.

SamuraiSam · Feb 10, 2015

Breathemetal said:
So the 18350 doesn't run 3.7 ever?
I thought it was a 3.7 battery and double stacking allows for 7.4 wouldn't one just provide 3.7?

If you have an SS kit for your Persei, or an 8, you can use a single 18350. One won't fit in the standard Persei adjustable tube; you need the SS kit shorty tube; the 8 includes a separate SS style shorty tube and bottom spring.

dilvish: Stacking batteries is a fine concept. You know those Alkaline batteries that power everything, well ever wonder why you put 4 of them into some devices? well they are only 1.5V so you need to run multiple of them in series to get the voltage many devices require.

Breathemetal · Feb 10, 2015

Okay thanks im getting a ss kit with it so im all set. Good news.

Whats a good charger upgrade with possibly a digital readout?

SamuraiSam · Feb 10, 2015

XTAR and Nitecore's Intellichargers are both highly regarded.

I own an Xtar 4 bay and Nitecore 2 bay and both work fantastically.

mixchu69 · Feb 10, 2015

Fredster951 said:
The reason I recommend the 8 to the experienced UP Tech user is the following;
1.)Fully serviceable, the 8 can be fully disassembled. Every single part can be broken down and cleaned. If your 8 stops working you can fix it yourself at home. No down time. Compared to sending in Product to get repaired, the downtime is significant. I usually find my 8 just to need a 1/8 screw adjustment once in a while. No dreaded 3 flashes. Other than that, it's solid!
2.) Durability, the 8 is hand down a heavy combat tank. Very durable. Very heavy quality feel to it. The 8 is simple and houses few parts. All these parts are super durable. Stainless steel, PTFE Teflon , and gold plated connections is all the 8 contains. Proven and durable materials.
3.) Universal, the 8 is universal. Like the Persei it is 3.7/7.4v mode. You also have 610/510 on the go. The 8 does not discriminate against sub ohm coils. It will run any coil at any ohm resistance value. For the brave, you can run 11v set up.

All said and done, there is a few things you should know about the 8 before you man the gun is;

1.) The 8 is for advanced users. You need to set it up to work and fire consistently. You need to learn this device. Once you learn it you will find what needs to be checked once in a while. For example my 8 will misfire once in a blue moon. When it does, it's almost always the center button screw coming loose. I just tighten it 1/8 of a turn and the aftermath is clouds.
2.) No short protection, no circuit board to keep you safe. You must assemble the SR71/74 correctly and the 8 to prevent a short. I don't meant to scare anyone because this is not rocket science. At most maybe a collapsed spring if using proper OEM equipment. No off feature so don't store it where it can be activated by accident. Just be safe and you will be fine. If you can assemble a SR cartridge correctly, the 8 is a piece of cake.

This is why I like w9. You know all the parts incorporated so you never have to worry. Like the sr74x. I am pretty incompetent with DIY, but G's video helped me assemble and disassemble with no problems. The transparency makes me comfortable buying their productS. and who can argue with the taste. Vapor is so good that I always have to see if I ingested some, but never have.

I think the core spoiled me. When I hear about batteries, I have no idea about all the configurations. Just turn on my core and dial it to the voltage i want.

Breathemetal · Feb 10, 2015

I think I'll be getting a Core before I get my Herc.
The Herc will be for home use anyways...not sharing that with anyone else.
it would be nice to not have to fuck with batteries and charging...
for now bats will do though!

hopefully will have my v4 Persei + Okeanos here this week! im pumped!
Now for the Donuts....Alpha....Triton....Herc....

Damnit.
Anyone here rich hiring?

dilvish · Feb 10, 2015

SamuraiSam said:
dilvish: Stacking batteries is a fine concept. You know those Alkaline batteries that power everything, well ever wonder why you put 4 of them into some devices? well they are only 1.5V so you need to run multiple of them in series to get the voltage many devices require.

that's what i thought. seems strange that people would be so phobic of it.

mixchu69 said:
This is why I like w9. You know all the parts incorporated so you never have to worry. Like the sr74x. I am pretty incompetent with DIY, but G's video helped me assemble and disassemble with no problems. The transparency makes me comfortable buying their productS. and who can argue with the taste. Vapor is so good that I always have to see if I ingested some, but never have.

seconded. w9 has the highest quality in concept, construction, taste, and vapor production, hands down. not to mention the famously excellent customer service. more than happy to give these guys my money.

AirBear · Feb 10, 2015

I'm looking to get a Persei for monster oil rips to get the most out of my shatter. Should I purchase the Persei with core and here or the 8 oil vaporizer?

bdmonkeyj3w · Feb 10, 2015

Just revisiting my single 18350 setup with 3.7 herc 74, this time, WITH the hammer top... 3 solid hits in and i realize i wasted alot of frustration attempting to fire herc on a v1 top with an efest 350. i actually am getting gnarly vapor production... but just finished 4th hit on same battery from fresh this a.m., and it seems slightly weaker, but may be outta oil inside. Havent loaded in a couple. Anyways, point of my post is im playing with herc, hammer and 350s today. And the hammer top is da shit!

Edit: hit 5 was weak sauce, and light is dim... next 350!

Pain · Feb 10, 2015

"AirBear, post: 737418, member: 22927"]I'm looking to get a Persei for monster oil rips to get the most out of my shatter. Should I purchase the Persei with core and here or the 8 oil vaporizer?[/QUOTE]

Persei with alpha-c is what I am shooting for. Most here like the Hercules sr74x but I'm holding out for the alpha-c

AirBear · Feb 10, 2015

Pain said:
"AirBear, post: 737418, member: 22927"]I'm looking to get a Persei for monster oil rips to get the most out of my shatter. Should I purchase the Persei with core and here or the 8 oil vaporizer?

Persei with alpha-c is what I am shooting for. Most here like the Hercules sr74x but I'm holding out for the alpha-c[/QUOTE]
What exactly is the Alpha-c? When is it gonna be available for purchase?

Pain · Feb 10, 2015

All we know is the alpha-c is something in between a regular KISS cartridge and a herc sr74 and it is coming very soon.

AnthoFranco · Feb 10, 2015

Mailman was bangin' like the 'Po! WTFO, Ahhh, My boy in Blue's got a delivery. 3.7 KISS cart for my persei. Just what the Dr. ordered. I could see how the 7.4 might be a bit much for EVERY occation. none the less. I'll be ordering more. WORD to W-9

*update:

-waiting for battery to charge. the pass thru system make's sense.

-i need more batteries.

-is kiss 7.4 bowl bigger? can it be used for bubble?

Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

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