Vitolo

Vaporist
Yeah BigDaddy.. I love that box too! I have a similar two tone. Here it is with my other "traveler" they both have a matching wood stem for "flare". The solid one stays in glove box, and the two tone stays in Pocket.
(we are a 4 box household)
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My wifes box, and my Office box both have the ball catch lid. The units in the photo do not.
 
Vitolo,

guardian

Well-Known Member
has anyone ever tried this charger by maha the mh-801d ? http://www.thomasdistributing.com/M...attery-Charger-w-Full-LCD-Display_p_2559.html its been out for quite a while and looks great for the hardcore box user as the two charging modes are 2000mah an hour or 1000, and can charge up to 8 batteries if needed, also it sports a refresh mode which like any other smart charger can take a while to complete, they also have another model thats similar but only has 1000mah pr hour charge or 500mah pr hr, im hoping to get one and do a review when i can get up the funds for a new lb , puffitup looks like a good site to get it from newest model with 8 batteries free deal looks good for $120 also a number of other nice accesories included such as pipe cleaners and a carry pouch.
 
guardian,

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
Ok, I can officially say I have used my Launch Box at Kennedy Space Center, NASA. In the parking lot, and several different bathrooms. :)
 
Vicki,

stroh

errl enthusiast
preparing for launch in style :brow:

A:"uhhh command center, we got a problem...we're going to have to postpone launch,"

CC:"WHAT?! WE CAN'T DO THAT!"

A:"yeah well i'm too vaked to fly this thing and Tim went to the mess to grab some chips and i think he got lost on the way..."

CC: :doh:
 
stroh,
Hi everyone,

This is my first post on FB but I have been using the forums as a resource in purchasing my first vaporizers. I decided it was time to start looking at the long term effects of my habit and naturally in my research this place came up. The posts on this site are very informative (especially JDSupreme's videos and Vitolo's clear explanations - thanks a ton!).

Initially, I started with a Vapor Genie, but very quickly wanted to eliminate the use of a flame altogether. After doing a fair amount of research it seemed that my best combination would be a SSV and MFLB. I purchased an MFLB to get me started as most people seemed to say that there's a moderate learning curve with each device. I figured I could provide some help to new users of the MFLB, as I've had it for a few days now and have been experimenting a fair bit. Here's a few tips based on what I learned as I went along:

1. I'd start by using it without the mouthpiece, as many suggest. It helped me figure out the perfect speed of the pull a lot faster. A good rule of thumb is the burnt popcorn smell, but in general if it feels to hot on your lips, pull a bit quicker; if it's too cool, a bit slower. You'll figure it out.

2. Grind, grind, grind. Make it as fine as you can. I was reduced to using a magic bullet, but it does work to get it vape-worthy.

3. On the theme of grinding, some people suggested removing your herbs after the first vape and crushing them further. I can say that adding this to my routine heightened the experience dramatically. I have had consistently thick vapor by following this tip.

4. Don't burn it! I was a bit discouraged at the beginning because it seemed like I was burning it like I had the VG. Once I took off the mouthpiece and figured out the pull, it does not burn at all. Takes time!

Anyway, I'm looking forward to becoming a member of the FC community. Thanks again to all of you for the hordes of useful information; it made the decision a heck of a lot easier.
 
HakunaMatata,

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
We were there for all the Star Trek exhibits, shuttle experience, Star Trek Live, etc. :)

I didn't feel one bit uncomfortable vaping there. In fact, there were a lot of places I probably could have vaped and no one would have even noticed.
 
Vicki,

esrever

Herb: best aphrodisiac and stereo tweak on Earth
Top Ten Benefits of Using The Magic Box (as far as I know this hasn't been done already)

10) the ability to "get inspired" anywhere, anytime
9) no more next day fuzzies
8) conserves herb so well you can now afford the really, really really good stuff
7) clean lungs!
6) say goodbye to coughing, burned fingers and tell-tale burn holes in your clothes and furniture
5) no matches? no lighter?? no problem!
4) never again having to hide under a beach towel or your shirt to combat the wind
3) more herb for cooking and baking
2) no more feeling like there was a cook-out inside your mouth

and the number #1 benefit of using the Magic Box:
you can now tell your boss, co-workers, straight friends, and family you no longer smoke pot!
 
esrever,
Does anyone know a source in Canada that sells the water pipe extension and/or power adapter? I would be interested in purchasing both of them but I'm not keen on the duties when shipping it from the U.S.
 
HakunaMatata,

Vitolo

Vaporist
HakunaMatata said:
Does anyone know a source in Canada that sells the water pipe extension and/or power adapter? I would be interested in purchasing both of them but I'm not keen on the duties when shipping it from the U.S.
There is only one seller of these items at this time.
 
Vitolo,

al bundy

Vaporist
esrever said:
Top Ten Benefits of Using The Magic Box (as far as I know this hasn't been done already)

10) the ability to "get inspired" anywhere, anytime
9) no more next day fuzzies
8) conserves herb so well you can now afford the really, really really good stuff
7) clean lungs!
6) say goodbye to coughing, burned fingers and tell-tale burn holes in your clothes and furniture
5) no matches? no lighter?? no problem!
4) never again having to hide under a beach towel or your shirt to combat the wind
3) more herb for cooking and baking
2) no more feeling like there was a cook-out inside your mouth

and the number #1 benefit of using the Magic Box:
you can now tell your boss, co-workers, straight friends, and family you no longer smoke pot!

How true... :)
 
al bundy,

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
I just checked tracking, and my PA is out for delivery! I also got a new Launch Box. My package should be here between 2-3PM. I'm very excited to try it! :D
 
Vicki,
seeking a finer grind....any suggestions I have 2 quality grinders standard and small but it's almost as if the drop through holes are a bit big.. A little update for you all since receiving my Power Adaptor for the MFLB my old friend the VaporBrothers has well just pretty much been retired. I find the PA is just good stuff all the way around no more battling with a PushBack ring just click the little black button and Volia crankin vape all the time yet i would like to see about a small modification of say gluing a small rubber like tit on the black button of the PA just for a slightly more defined button like a nub from a toothbrush handle grip.
 
Willuminati,

weedemon

enthusiast
Vitolo said:
HakunaMatata said:
Does anyone know a source in Canada that sells the water pipe extension and/or power adapter? I would be interested in purchasing both of them but I'm not keen on the duties when shipping it from the U.S.
There is only one seller of these items at this time.


I have yet to pay a shipping cost on any of my mflb parts i have ordered. (4 mflb units, 2 PA, and the WPA) all duty free! I say go for it! :)
 
weedemon,

nr-cole

Well-Known Member
Willuminati said:
seeking a finer grind....any suggestions I have 2 quality grinders standard and small but it's almost as if the drop through holes are a bit big.. A little update for you all since receiving my Power Adaptor for the MFLB my old friend the VaporBrothers has well just pretty much been retired. I find the PA is just good stuff all the way around no more battling with a PushBack ring just click the little black button and Volia crankin vape all the time yet i would like to see about a small modification of say gluing a small rubber like tit on the black button of the PA just for a slightly more defined button like a nub from a toothbrush handle grip.

There's this:
http://sales.magic-flight.com/index.php?p=product&id=99

Alternatively, turn your multi-piece upside down and grind for an extra-long time. Stuff won't fall through until you want it to.
 
nr-cole,

Seek

Apprentice Daydreamer
Seagullmeat: You should write a review of that. Only review mentioning the LB version there is saying it's the 2011 newest version with the ball catch. Seems the reviewer was lying.

Old boxes are awesome too.
 
Seek,

stoney

Alex
I actually ordered my MFLB from vapemaster on amazon. They seem to lower the prices around the weekends at the end of the month (I bought mine on the last sunday in June for $83, it was back to $119 on monday :brow: ). Serial number is intact, the box came with everything one would expect from mf or blisssvile. Can't speak for other vendors on amazon. :D

....See how it is $119 now that the weekend is over? :p
 
stoney,

plurr

Member
How long does customer support usually take to respond? I emailed them about two days ago and I'm wondering if I should send them another email.
 
plurr,

liteweight

Well-Known Member
nr-cole said:
Willuminati said:
seeking a finer grind....any suggestions I have 2 quality grinders standard and small but it's almost as if the drop through holes are a bit big.. A little update for you all since receiving my Power Adaptor for the MFLB my old friend the VaporBrothers has well just pretty much been retired. I find the PA is just good stuff all the way around no more battling with a PushBack ring just click the little black button and Volia crankin vape all the time yet i would like to see about a small modification of say gluing a small rubber like tit on the black button of the PA just for a slightly more defined button like a nub from a toothbrush handle grip.

There's this:
http://sales.magic-flight.com/index.php?p=product&id=99

Alternatively, turn your multi-piece upside down and grind for an extra-long time. Stuff won't fall through until you want it to.

You can always try a coffee grinder. (You can buy one for $10-15 at Walmart or on eBay.) The only drawback is there will be some kief stuck to the sides of the grinder, but you can collect that with a brush.

Put your ground-up herb in a Tic-Tac box and you'll be ready to travel (or just stay wherever you are).

This really saves wear and tear on the wrists!
 
liteweight,

magicflight

Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Hi,

In regards to the coin placed in the Box, as with many things it has a lot to do with the small details. There are three perspectives of interest: 1) what happens electrically, 2) what happens in the infra red (IR), and 3) what happens with the heat. Mostly, this is a review of the relevant physics.

When a coin is placed in the chamber as described, a new circuit path is created. The resistance of this path is highly variable, mostly due to the points of contact between the coin and the screen/rails on either side of the trench. The resistance of the coin itself is fairly low whereas that of the interface junctions is typically much higher -- all three resistances are effectively in series. The interface resistances are largely defined by the degree of surface oxidization of both metal surfaces and the pressure (weight and inertia) associated with the contact. As such, it is hard to define in general what is going to happen electrically since all of these variables are very specific to the degree of coin polish, newness of the unit, the true area of contact, and the contact pressure. (For example, 2 lbs of difference in surface pressure can result in a 80% variance in overall conductance).

What we can say is the following: the current demand of the Box is already fairly stressful on the battery -- adding any more additional current paths is definitely not recommended. IF the light is normally observed to not flicker and the addition of the coin causes it to change -- ie causes the light to be any dimmer or to flicker at all, then the coin is most likely having an adverse effect on the health of the battery. Conversely, if the light is not affected at all by inserting the coin, then it is probably 'ok this time' (although perhaps there is still a risk). Since you say you are observing things happening with the light, I would advise against the coin. Conductance through the coin itself is not a significant source of heat -- most of the heat generated would arise at the contact points -- not really in the right locations to do any good initially.

In regards to the IR effects, I can absolutely agree that the coin is most helpful in this regard. A clean copper surface acts as an excellent reflector of IR radiation and improves the balance of the criticality zone within the Box significantly. Overall, this would make the Box even more able to warm up quickly and cook the load more evenly. Partly this is due to its close proximate position and the near path imaging characteristics of its placement. The IR improvement is affected by the degree of surface corrosion of the coin and to a lessor extent, the specific alloy composition of the coin. More polished coins and coins with a higher copper, silver, or gold content would tend to work better. Unfortunately, these are the exact same characteristics that make the risk of electrical problems significantly higher and much more serious.

Finally, in regards to the heat, the coin will act as a substantial increase in the apparent load volume. By itself this is not a problem except that the coin also has the effect of significantly redistributing that heat. It means that the Box once heated will stay hot much longer. One concern is that when attempting to reload the Box, the coin will likely still be hot. It also means that the heat will be placed at locations for which the Box was not previously expecting it -- ie, outside of the design envelope. This also is not recommended as the specific locations where heat would accumulate were carefully mapped out for long term safe operation. Adding the coin has the effect of making these aspects less certain.

Therefore and in conclusion, the overall recommendation is to not use the coin. It may help with some characteristics of the heating (rapid onset, improved critical balance), but it does so at some risk to the batteries and with some other performance disadvantages as well (heat transfer in time and space; no visibility to the load, compromised airflow).

One alternative approach to achieve some of the same beneficial IR effects without any risk to the battery would be to add a thin copper foil reflector to the inside surface of the lid (or alternately, for us as the manufacturer to have make the lid completely out of copper/brass altogether). While the reflector position is somewhat less advantageous, it also does not interrupt the airflow path nor does it prevent the potential of stirring/shaking in the Box. While this approach was considered in the design, it also has the unfortunate effect of making the cover opaque -- people would not be able to see the load without opening the Box first. It was deemed preferable to have visibility -- especially when needed for shaking/stirring -- hence this aspect was not included in the build.

So therefore, the main question is this: how many people here would prefer to have a metal cover and not see the Box contents, knowing also that sometimes the cover could get a little warm to the touch?

-- Magic-Flight
 
magicflight,
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