Comic Books (And The Movies / Shows Based On Them)
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arf777
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Kind of appropriate after what appears to be an image of the Surfer - Marvel is ENDING the entire Stan Lee/ Jack Kirby Universe. That is according to both Marvel and Stan himself. Can I get a WTF??? They have already killed Wolverine, are killing Deadpool, and are ending Fantastic Four. Now they say they are ending all of the Marvel Universes by the summer, with little to no indication of what the comics will be like afterwards.
Some folks I know in the biz think this is about keeping money out of the hands of the Kirby family. I have trouble seeing this working, though, unless they are also ending Spiderman, Iron Man, Thor, the Inhumans, the Hulk, Nick Fury and SHIELD, basically all the characters from Marvel's movies. Those are mostly Lee and Kirby creations, and they had been hyping the Inhumans, another Lee/Kirby thing.
More likely in my opinion is it is Disney insisting they revamp the comics to almost match the movies and TV Marvel owns, which means: no mutants at all, no Fantastic Four, no Weapon X, no Silver Surfer, no return of Wolverine or Deadpool. But whatever the cause, even Stan Lee ha said this coming change means what he 'and kirby started in 1961 is ending'. Ack.
Some folks I know in the biz think this is about keeping money out of the hands of the Kirby family. I have trouble seeing this working, though, unless they are also ending Spiderman, Iron Man, Thor, the Inhumans, the Hulk, Nick Fury and SHIELD, basically all the characters from Marvel's movies. Those are mostly Lee and Kirby creations, and they had been hyping the Inhumans, another Lee/Kirby thing.
More likely in my opinion is it is Disney insisting they revamp the comics to almost match the movies and TV Marvel owns, which means: no mutants at all, no Fantastic Four, no Weapon X, no Silver Surfer, no return of Wolverine or Deadpool. But whatever the cause, even Stan Lee ha said this coming change means what he 'and kirby started in 1961 is ending'. Ack.
Excellent perspectives for our consideration! Thank you! BTW: Any comments or observations regarding the tv series GOTHAM and Flash?
arf777
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Personally, I love Gotham (Bruno Heller can do no wrong - see HBOs Rome) and Arrow. And Constantine. A little less impressed with the Flash, but still think it's better than Agents of Shield. Marvel is kicking ass in the flicks, but DC is dominating on TV.
Agreed on all points! Love Gotham, Flash a bit less.
arf777
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Word is they have upped season one of Gotham to a full 22 episodes. Though Constantine may only do 13 and has not been picked up for a 2nd season yet.
To those interested in the madness Marvel has announced, I have heard two theories. Especially since Stan Lee said "what Kirby and me started in 1961 [founding of the Silver Age] is ending", there is a rumor that this is being done to try to screw the Kirby estate out of money. For those unfamiliar, Jack Kirby created at least as much of the Marvel Universe as Stan Lee - Kirby is even the co-creator of the golden age Captain America - yet got screwed by Marvel on royalties (which is how he ended up at DC for a while). He, and then his estate, have been suing Marvel for years.
I personally do not buy that theory. Cuz unless they are ditching a whole lot of stuff they just announced they are making into films, they still owe the Kirby's $$$s. Kirby is the co-creator of the Inhumans, just instroduced in Agents of Shield and scheduled for a movie; co-created Black Panther, who has a movie coming; co-created Iron Man, Thor, Nick Fury, SHIELD, Hydra, Captain America. In fact, the only major super heroes in Marvel that he did not co-create or create are not owned by Marvel for film rights. Spider-man was Lee and Ditko, but Sony owns that. He did not create the 70s and later X-men and related characters (Wolverine, Kitty Pryde, Gambit, Storm, Deadpool, Apocalypse) but Fox has the rights to them.
I lean towards the other theory, in some ways just as bad - Disney (who now owns Marvel) wanting all the comics to match the Marvel Studio movies. Which would mean getting rid of Wolverine and de-emphasizing the X-men - already done; getting rid of the Fantastic Four, who Sony has rights to - done. Killing Deadpool - coming in April.
For movie fans, this may sound like a good thing. For serious comic book fans, it is a nightmare. Comparable only to DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths, something Marvel had said they would never do. It'll mean characters like Quake being retconned into Inhumans. It would mean all the multi-world plotlines and the depth they provide vanishing, at least until they build up a new list of alternate worlds.
Like many, I will read the comics they are doing all of this in, and will give what comes out the other side a try. But if it all starts looking like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I am selling my issues and collectibles. Just like I stopped reading DC when they pulled Crisis back in the 80s.
Please, anyone out there from Marvel, do not do this. I have too many Thanos, Wolverine, and Deadpool collectibles and issues to get rid of if they do this.
To those interested in the madness Marvel has announced, I have heard two theories. Especially since Stan Lee said "what Kirby and me started in 1961 [founding of the Silver Age] is ending", there is a rumor that this is being done to try to screw the Kirby estate out of money. For those unfamiliar, Jack Kirby created at least as much of the Marvel Universe as Stan Lee - Kirby is even the co-creator of the golden age Captain America - yet got screwed by Marvel on royalties (which is how he ended up at DC for a while). He, and then his estate, have been suing Marvel for years.
I personally do not buy that theory. Cuz unless they are ditching a whole lot of stuff they just announced they are making into films, they still owe the Kirby's $$$s. Kirby is the co-creator of the Inhumans, just instroduced in Agents of Shield and scheduled for a movie; co-created Black Panther, who has a movie coming; co-created Iron Man, Thor, Nick Fury, SHIELD, Hydra, Captain America. In fact, the only major super heroes in Marvel that he did not co-create or create are not owned by Marvel for film rights. Spider-man was Lee and Ditko, but Sony owns that. He did not create the 70s and later X-men and related characters (Wolverine, Kitty Pryde, Gambit, Storm, Deadpool, Apocalypse) but Fox has the rights to them.
I lean towards the other theory, in some ways just as bad - Disney (who now owns Marvel) wanting all the comics to match the Marvel Studio movies. Which would mean getting rid of Wolverine and de-emphasizing the X-men - already done; getting rid of the Fantastic Four, who Sony has rights to - done. Killing Deadpool - coming in April.
For movie fans, this may sound like a good thing. For serious comic book fans, it is a nightmare. Comparable only to DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths, something Marvel had said they would never do. It'll mean characters like Quake being retconned into Inhumans. It would mean all the multi-world plotlines and the depth they provide vanishing, at least until they build up a new list of alternate worlds.
Like many, I will read the comics they are doing all of this in, and will give what comes out the other side a try. But if it all starts looking like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I am selling my issues and collectibles. Just like I stopped reading DC when they pulled Crisis back in the 80s.
Please, anyone out there from Marvel, do not do this. I have too many Thanos, Wolverine, and Deadpool collectibles and issues to get rid of if they do this.
arf777
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BTW- before they retcon all of it out of existence, a Marvel Unlimited subscription is a crazy good value if you want to read older titles. I've had a subscription for about 4 months, and got to read 20 years of Deadpool, Silver Surfer, X-Men, Thanos, Inhumans, and Avengers. They rotate the content, but at any given time Marvel Unlimited has between 12,000 and 15,000 digitized issues available. Until recently, they had the entire Silver Surfer run, 1962 - present, available. There is now about a 15 year hole. On the other hand, they have all but the most recent Guardians, Avengers, and X-Men. And for some reason the entire Beta Ray Bill saga, a personal favorite.
And they organize some of it to make it easier to read. For a couple of months they've had all the major Thanos stuff, irrelevant of actual title it happened in, in one place. Helpful, as Thanos story lines spill across Iron Man, Avengers, Warlock, Guardians, and short run events like Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War, Annihilation, etc. That is still up there.
I recommend a monthly rather than annual subscription. That way you can cancel when they piss you off. Which they will, eventually.
Caveat- there are some big gaps. Only about 1/2 of Age of Apocalypse is on there at the moment. And for some reason almost the entire Joe Kelly run of Deadpool is missing (I have those in hard copy so it's less harsh for me, but it's still weird). On the other hand, they have the entire Daniel Way Deadpool and most of the Posehn (except the most recent couple). But none of the graphic novels are available at all, which eliminates a lot of X-men, Thanos, and others.
But 12.000+ Marvel comics spanning 54 years is kind of a bargain at $10/month. Especially if you want to read old titles that will cost god knows how much to buy.
And they organize some of it to make it easier to read. For a couple of months they've had all the major Thanos stuff, irrelevant of actual title it happened in, in one place. Helpful, as Thanos story lines spill across Iron Man, Avengers, Warlock, Guardians, and short run events like Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War, Annihilation, etc. That is still up there.
I recommend a monthly rather than annual subscription. That way you can cancel when they piss you off. Which they will, eventually.
Caveat- there are some big gaps. Only about 1/2 of Age of Apocalypse is on there at the moment. And for some reason almost the entire Joe Kelly run of Deadpool is missing (I have those in hard copy so it's less harsh for me, but it's still weird). On the other hand, they have the entire Daniel Way Deadpool and most of the Posehn (except the most recent couple). But none of the graphic novels are available at all, which eliminates a lot of X-men, Thanos, and others.
But 12.000+ Marvel comics spanning 54 years is kind of a bargain at $10/month. Especially if you want to read old titles that will cost god knows how much to buy.
arf777
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So what do folks think of this X-men casting news? Another light-skinned Storm. On the other hand, I've never seen the dude cast as the young Cyclops in anything, but at least in the pic in the article, he looks kind of like a dick. Which works, cuz IMO Cyclops has always been sort of a dick.
http://www.newsarama.com/23312-x-men-apocalypse-casts-young-storm-cyclops-jean-grey.html
http://www.newsarama.com/23312-x-men-apocalypse-casts-young-storm-cyclops-jean-grey.html
arf777
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NERDGASM!!!! 10th Doctor, David Tennant, will be the Purple Man (Kilgrave) in the Jessica Jones thing on Netflix. And one presumes in the other titles as well, as Purple Man was originally a foe of DareDevil and has gone up against Luke Cage. Cannot wait for Tennant as such a creepy bad guy.
That makes 2 former Doctors in the MCU (Eccleston was Malekith in the most recent Thor) and one former companion (Karen Gillan as Nebula).
While in the DC TV universe, we have Who companions Alex Kingston (River Song) in Arrow as the Canary's mother and John Barrowman, Captain Jack, on Arrow as Malcolm Merlin.
http://marvel.com/news/tv/23978/david_tennant_joins_marvels_aka_jessica_jones_for_netflix
That makes 2 former Doctors in the MCU (Eccleston was Malekith in the most recent Thor) and one former companion (Karen Gillan as Nebula).
While in the DC TV universe, we have Who companions Alex Kingston (River Song) in Arrow as the Canary's mother and John Barrowman, Captain Jack, on Arrow as Malcolm Merlin.
http://marvel.com/news/tv/23978/david_tennant_joins_marvels_aka_jessica_jones_for_netflix
Super hero universes were so much simpler back in the day - I just can't keep up with it all anymore! The more complex it all gets the less interested I remain. I love the old stuff!
arf777
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With the exception of Deadpool, I prefer the older stuff as well. But Marvel may be undoing all their previous continuity. So as far as the characters are concerned the older stuff may not have "happened".
arf777
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It jus keeps coming....today we have the 1st Fantastic Four trailer.
Unlike a lot of people, I have no issue at all with John and Sue Storm being played by people of different races. I am from a multi-racial family myself. I have a cousin who is Vietnamese but her siblings are not. I have a beautiful African American niece, neither of whose parents are her race (my sister is like me, mixed up slav/gypsy/mongol Jew, her husband [a comic book artist] is Puerto Rican). And I am a huge fan of Michael B. Jordan.
But Kate Mara as Sue Storm? I have a problem with that. IMHO that lady cannot act to save her life. And the actor playing Reed Richards, Miles Teller, though a talented actor, is the same age as the actor playing Johnny and is 4 years younger than the one playing Sue? Reed is supposed to be older than both of them. By enough that he had a little grey hair in even very early issues. So much that there are cradle-robbing jokes re him and Sue Storm in some of the older comics.
And sorry, rant coming here.
Marvel, quite famously, had the first three or four characters in the history of comics who were identified as Jews - for a long time, the only such characters. Writers at both DC and Marvel had been members of the tribe from the get-go, but the characters only 'came out' as MOTs in the 70s. And Ben Grimm/ the Thing was in many ways the most iconic. My sister still has the Thing's Bar Mitzvah issue. Yet we can't get a single member of the tribe playing any of the Jewish characters? I guarantee Jack Kirby - that is, Jacob Kurtzberg - is spinning in his grave.
Is it too much to ask to have even one of these characters played by a member of the tribe? Shit, the most famous Jewish character in the whole Marvel Universe, Holocaust survivor Magneto, is being played these days BY AN ARYAN GERMAN!!!!! (Michael Fassbender, despite his UK accent, is from Heidelberg). He does it remarkably well and is a deeply gifted actor, and it does help him deliver lines in German beautifully. But that casting nearly made my head explode. Sorry. My family lost more than 5,000 people in the camps, so it's a little personal.
I also like Ellen Page, but Kitty Pride was the 1st super hero EVER declared Jewish (the Thing didn't 'come out' as an MOT until a few years later).
Wondering how badly they're going to keep this up in Age of Apocalypse. Cuz in the comic, that is all caused by Charles Xavier's son Legion, who is not just Jewish, but Israeli born in Haifa.
Imagine if they had cast Storm of the X-men, not just with an inappropriately light-skinned actress (which they have done twice now) but with a WHITE actress. Or if Black Panther was being played by a white guy. The Thing, Kitty Pride, and Magneto were actually taught to me in Hebrew school as proof that Jews were accepted in this country.
The whole thing reminds me of the fiasco of the Last Airbender movie, where not a single character was portrayed as the race they were in the original. It isn't like there aren't plenty of Jewish actors. Hell, one of the definitely NOT Jewish Marvel characters, Spider Man, has been played by a British Jew, Andrew Garfield, for the past two flicks. Throw him out and let one of my peeps play an actual Jewish character. The one other Marvel hero being played by a member of the tribe, Black Widow, is specifically Russian Orthodox in the comics. (I don't count RDJ, because even though he is Jewish by descent he specifically does not identify as Jewish and hangs out with open anti-Semites like Mel Gibson- and anyway, Tony Stark is also specifically goyishe).
I get making WASP characters into minorities- there have never been enough minority characters in comics. But de-minoirtying the few minority characters you had? When they are the same minority as most of the original writers, artists, and creators?
OK. Rant over.
Unlike a lot of people, I have no issue at all with John and Sue Storm being played by people of different races. I am from a multi-racial family myself. I have a cousin who is Vietnamese but her siblings are not. I have a beautiful African American niece, neither of whose parents are her race (my sister is like me, mixed up slav/gypsy/mongol Jew, her husband [a comic book artist] is Puerto Rican). And I am a huge fan of Michael B. Jordan.
But Kate Mara as Sue Storm? I have a problem with that. IMHO that lady cannot act to save her life. And the actor playing Reed Richards, Miles Teller, though a talented actor, is the same age as the actor playing Johnny and is 4 years younger than the one playing Sue? Reed is supposed to be older than both of them. By enough that he had a little grey hair in even very early issues. So much that there are cradle-robbing jokes re him and Sue Storm in some of the older comics.
And sorry, rant coming here.
Marvel, quite famously, had the first three or four characters in the history of comics who were identified as Jews - for a long time, the only such characters. Writers at both DC and Marvel had been members of the tribe from the get-go, but the characters only 'came out' as MOTs in the 70s. And Ben Grimm/ the Thing was in many ways the most iconic. My sister still has the Thing's Bar Mitzvah issue. Yet we can't get a single member of the tribe playing any of the Jewish characters? I guarantee Jack Kirby - that is, Jacob Kurtzberg - is spinning in his grave.
Is it too much to ask to have even one of these characters played by a member of the tribe? Shit, the most famous Jewish character in the whole Marvel Universe, Holocaust survivor Magneto, is being played these days BY AN ARYAN GERMAN!!!!! (Michael Fassbender, despite his UK accent, is from Heidelberg). He does it remarkably well and is a deeply gifted actor, and it does help him deliver lines in German beautifully. But that casting nearly made my head explode. Sorry. My family lost more than 5,000 people in the camps, so it's a little personal.
I also like Ellen Page, but Kitty Pride was the 1st super hero EVER declared Jewish (the Thing didn't 'come out' as an MOT until a few years later).
Wondering how badly they're going to keep this up in Age of Apocalypse. Cuz in the comic, that is all caused by Charles Xavier's son Legion, who is not just Jewish, but Israeli born in Haifa.
Imagine if they had cast Storm of the X-men, not just with an inappropriately light-skinned actress (which they have done twice now) but with a WHITE actress. Or if Black Panther was being played by a white guy. The Thing, Kitty Pride, and Magneto were actually taught to me in Hebrew school as proof that Jews were accepted in this country.
The whole thing reminds me of the fiasco of the Last Airbender movie, where not a single character was portrayed as the race they were in the original. It isn't like there aren't plenty of Jewish actors. Hell, one of the definitely NOT Jewish Marvel characters, Spider Man, has been played by a British Jew, Andrew Garfield, for the past two flicks. Throw him out and let one of my peeps play an actual Jewish character. The one other Marvel hero being played by a member of the tribe, Black Widow, is specifically Russian Orthodox in the comics. (I don't count RDJ, because even though he is Jewish by descent he specifically does not identify as Jewish and hangs out with open anti-Semites like Mel Gibson- and anyway, Tony Stark is also specifically goyishe).
I get making WASP characters into minorities- there have never been enough minority characters in comics. But de-minoirtying the few minority characters you had? When they are the same minority as most of the original writers, artists, and creators?
OK. Rant over.
arf777
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Marvel gets to use Spiderman (one assumes in Captain America: Civil War) and Feige to co-produce next Sony Spiderman films-
http://marvel.com/news/movies/24062..._studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man
A strangely mixed response to this in the fan world. Some think Marvel should have let Sony further butcher Spiderman to eventually get the full rights back. What do folks here think?
Also, only a couple months til Daredevil premieres on Netflix. Most recent trailer.
Lastly, there was a report that TJ Miller will, and i quote, provide a "comic voice" in Deadpool. PLEASE let this mean he will be one of the voices in Deadpool's head. Some seem to think he'll play Weasel, but I'd much prefer him as a text-box voice.
http://marvel.com/news/movies/24062..._studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man
A strangely mixed response to this in the fan world. Some think Marvel should have let Sony further butcher Spiderman to eventually get the full rights back. What do folks here think?
Also, only a couple months til Daredevil premieres on Netflix. Most recent trailer.
Lastly, there was a report that TJ Miller will, and i quote, provide a "comic voice" in Deadpool. PLEASE let this mean he will be one of the voices in Deadpool's head. Some seem to think he'll play Weasel, but I'd much prefer him as a text-box voice.
arf777
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This is only secondarily comic book related, but not sure where else to put it. Michael Moorcock's Elric looks to be finally coming to TV, that is according to the author himself. Apparently one of the people behind Walking Dead (which IS from a comic) is involved. As some may know, Elric has been done repeatedly as comic books and graphic novels, though he is originally from 6 novels. One of the most imitated characters in 20th century popular lit.
http://www.multiverse.org/fora/showthread.php?t=29430
http://www.multiverse.org/fora/showthread.php?t=29430
arf777
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Deadpool news - TJ Miller is officially on-board, still no role disclosed. And some female MMA fighter will be playing the Morlock Angel Dust. Odd choice, since as far as I know I've read every Deadpool, Deadpool & Cable, etc, and Poolio never interacted with her, but there you go.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=59286
Also, first (non-color) look at the mask Ryan Reynolds will be wearing.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/12/ryan-reynolds-teases-deadpool-mask
EDIT: Just found a copy of the Deadpool script that fox hasn't managed to have yanked yet. Read it before it's gone!
http://www.slideshare.net/zacharygoldrich/deadpool-movie-leaked-script-1
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=59286
Also, first (non-color) look at the mask Ryan Reynolds will be wearing.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/12/ryan-reynolds-teases-deadpool-mask
EDIT: Just found a copy of the Deadpool script that fox hasn't managed to have yanked yet. Read it before it's gone!
http://www.slideshare.net/zacharygoldrich/deadpool-movie-leaked-script-1
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arf777
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NOOOOOO!
Marvel has announced a major retconn for when their universe resets. They are redoing the origin of the Infinity Gauntlet, and they are not having Jim Starlin, the original writer and the creator of Thanos, do the writing, despite his having written another Thanos Infinity installment this past October. Instead, they are having Gerry Duggan, co-author of the current run of Deadpool, write it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Duggan / Posehn Deadpool. But that is comedy, and you do not get heavier in the Marvel U than Thanos and the gauntlet.
http://www.newsarama.com/23545-new-...=1023588027669494&fb_action_types=og.comments
In addition, rumor now has it that none of the extant X-men will be in the new retconned universe. None.
You ask me, this kills the theories that Disney is doing this to 1) Disnify the Marvel Universe and 2) that this is being done to bring the comics in line with the movies. Cuz if you're going to Disnify, I don't think you'd keep Thanos at all. He is, after all, a nihilist in love with Death. And the next two Avengers movies after Age of Ultron are based on the original Jim Starlin Infinity Gauntlet. The Avengers aren't even going to be in the new version of Infinity Gauntlet. The main character (other than Thanos) appears to be a brand new Nova.
I do not think Marvel could have offended me more if they tried. I am a huge Jim Starlin fan, and have a Thanos with the gauntlet on my desk. The only characters I love as much are Deadpool (who they are "killing" - Marvel used the quotes on that one), Wolverine (who they already killed), the Silver Surfer, Galactus, and Warlock. They had better not mess with the Surfer or Galactus. If they do I may have to divest myself of all my Marvel gear and become (shudder) a DC fan.
EDIT- the Deadpool script is fucking awesome. Almost directly from the original Joe Kelly run. But, both because of the PG-13 they are going for and because of what is in a recent casting call, I fear they are doing an entirely different script. There are characters in the casting call that match nobody in the script, and the script has a near Tarantino level of 'fuck' in it. Really too bad - the test footage, it turns out, is a scene right out of that script.
Marvel has announced a major retconn for when their universe resets. They are redoing the origin of the Infinity Gauntlet, and they are not having Jim Starlin, the original writer and the creator of Thanos, do the writing, despite his having written another Thanos Infinity installment this past October. Instead, they are having Gerry Duggan, co-author of the current run of Deadpool, write it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Duggan / Posehn Deadpool. But that is comedy, and you do not get heavier in the Marvel U than Thanos and the gauntlet.
http://www.newsarama.com/23545-new-...=1023588027669494&fb_action_types=og.comments
In addition, rumor now has it that none of the extant X-men will be in the new retconned universe. None.
You ask me, this kills the theories that Disney is doing this to 1) Disnify the Marvel Universe and 2) that this is being done to bring the comics in line with the movies. Cuz if you're going to Disnify, I don't think you'd keep Thanos at all. He is, after all, a nihilist in love with Death. And the next two Avengers movies after Age of Ultron are based on the original Jim Starlin Infinity Gauntlet. The Avengers aren't even going to be in the new version of Infinity Gauntlet. The main character (other than Thanos) appears to be a brand new Nova.
I do not think Marvel could have offended me more if they tried. I am a huge Jim Starlin fan, and have a Thanos with the gauntlet on my desk. The only characters I love as much are Deadpool (who they are "killing" - Marvel used the quotes on that one), Wolverine (who they already killed), the Silver Surfer, Galactus, and Warlock. They had better not mess with the Surfer or Galactus. If they do I may have to divest myself of all my Marvel gear and become (shudder) a DC fan.
EDIT- the Deadpool script is fucking awesome. Almost directly from the original Joe Kelly run. But, both because of the PG-13 they are going for and because of what is in a recent casting call, I fear they are doing an entirely different script. There are characters in the casting call that match nobody in the script, and the script has a near Tarantino level of 'fuck' in it. Really too bad - the test footage, it turns out, is a scene right out of that script.
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Batman rocks, spiderman sucks. Other than that marvel rules!
Not that long ago I'd have agreed with you. But Google Spideypool before you decide Spidey completely sucks. Without him we wouldn't have the most entertaining slash fic and art since Spock/Kirk.
And we would not have Venom. Who is awesome, at least to look at.
But Batman kicks Spidey's ass. One of only three DC heroes I like.
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More TV coming- Jim Starlin has signed a TV deal for Dreadstar. Unlike Thanos, which he also created, the author owns this one.
http://www.newsarama.com/23556-thanos-creator-signs-tv-deal-for-dreadstar.html
http://www.newsarama.com/23556-thanos-creator-signs-tv-deal-for-dreadstar.html
arf777
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More news- Doug Jones, who played Abe Sapien in the Hellboy movies and the Silver Surfer in FF II (not the voice- that was Fishburne) will be appearing as Deathbolt in Arrow later this season.
http://www.newsarama.com/23564-repo...-while-amell-teases-firestorm-appearance.html
Also, The Flash last night had Grodd appear. As far as I know, the first appearance of a telepathic gorilla on a primetime live action TV show ever. That is a highly specific first, but there it is.
http://www.newsarama.com/23564-repo...-while-amell-teases-firestorm-appearance.html
Also, The Flash last night had Grodd appear. As far as I know, the first appearance of a telepathic gorilla on a primetime live action TV show ever. That is a highly specific first, but there it is.
arf777
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Seriously?
Oliver Queen's mother was murdered on screen, as was the Canary. His father killed someone and then blew his own head off. And Tommy Merlin died on screen as well. And Shado. And Shado's father was killed too. Those are just off the top of my head. Can you name any other super hero TV show with that many good guys killed? On The Flash, I'll grant you, nobody but the Flash's mother has been killed yet.
And though they were bad guys, the body count in season one of Arrow was huge. The 'hero' killed well over 20 people on screen in 22 or so episodes. That is a higher body count than The Wire.