Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

DMPesso

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First post so bare with me. Been browsing these forums for a while now and thought Id share my thoughts. The crafty is an amazing vape. Ive gone from an atmos raw to the da vinci (origional) to a cloud v phantom to my current crafty. I have to say hands down the crafty is amazing compared to the vapes Ive tried. A buddy of mine has the volcano and the quality and taste is on the level of the volcano. I did find that the crafty in my opinion offers something a volcano does not and possibly other bag vapes but my only comparison is from the volcano. I apologize if this has been mentioned but with the volcano the taste is great for the duration of the bag but I find you dont get that absolute amazing first hit like with the crafty full of flavor. The volcano imo mixes that first initial great tasty hit with the other good tasty hits you'd find after the initial draw. Id say thats where I enjoy my crafty more than the volcano. So lets talk battery. Yes its not great but guess what. Battery technology can improve and be upgraded. When a better battery that is safe for use comes around or is found out Ill miss my crafty but Id opt for an upgrade. For those still on the fence take heed that if you like mouth to lung hits this is not the vape for you. Imo this vape is a lung hit vape. It does not perform well with mouth to lung hits. My phantom definately is a mouth the lung vape but the crafty is a straight to the lungs for best results. So for those who prefer that experience you might want to explore other vapes. Skyvaper out!!

I'm confused what do you mean by the crafty isn't good at mouth drawing? Are you talking about what I was saying on the other page how the crafty is more harsh when directly inhaling into your lungs versus into your mouth first and then your lungs? Your saying the crafty gives bigger hits when you draw directly into your lungs? How do you do this without coughing and it being harsh? I find it really hard sometimes to do this. How are you breaking up your buds is it grinded or hand broken? Like someone else mentioned I noticed it is much smoother when vaping hand broken buds versus grinded finely
 
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Mr Mellish

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I'm confused what do you mean by the crafty isn't good at mouth drawing? Are you talking about what I was saying on the other page how the crafty is more harsh when directly inhaling into your lungs versus into your mouth first and then your lungs? Your saying the crafty gives bigger hits when you draw directly into your lungs? How do you do this without coughing and it being harsh? I find it really hard sometimes to do this. How are you breaking up your buds is it grinded or hand broken? Like someone else mentioned I noticed it is much smoother when vaping hand broken buds versus grinded finely

@DMPesso, thanks for the tip on drawing into your mouth first. I always just pulled into my lungs and never got the flavor. Now I can actually taste the stuff...and I cough less. Never even thought about it...what a stupid bunt.
 
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DMPesso

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@DMPesso, thanks for the tip on drawing into your mouth first. I always just pulled into my lungs and never got the flavor. Now I can actually taste the stuff...and I cough less. Never even thought about it...what a stupid bunt.

No problem man. Try hand broken buds with inhaling in the nouth first. That's the best experience I have had with the crafty so far. Doesn't seem to work well with finely ground material because it leaks into the cooling chamber and makes it harsher. What Im wondering is how skyvaper inhales directly into his lungs without coughing? To me the only way to vape this thing is inhale in your mouth first or it really irritates your throat and makes you cough and it's weird because I dont notice this as much with other vapes. Possibly the straw has something to do with it being more difficult to not directly inhale?
 
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HerbieVonVapster

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Just wanted to add an update. I just got off the phone with S&B seems there was a mix up on the crafty that I had sent in last week for service. Ended up having a chat with the rep. over my repair. There was some confusion due to it being second unit I have sent back for repairs. I suggested they issue rma instead of just sending unit back. Sounds like there open to ideals.

Being Friday more than likely won't get unit till Monday, so they offered me a free gift.
**update** just got shipping notice so looks like be back in business soon.
Going chalk this one up as growing pains.
 
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skyvaper

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I'm confused what do you mean by the crafty isn't good at mouth drawing? Are you talking about what I was saying on the other page how the crafty is more harsh when directly inhaling into your lungs versus into your mouth first and then your lungs? Your saying the crafty gives bigger hits when you draw directly into your lungs? How do you do this without coughing and it being harsh? I find it really hard sometimes to do this. How are you breaking up your buds is it grinded or hand broken? Like someone else mentioned I noticed it is much smoother when vaping hand broken buds versus grinded finely
Mouth hit is where you draw and it sits in your mouth and then take a breath to pull the vapor. If your mouth hitting you should be able to breath at the same time or like using a straw to drink. To spare yourself the harshness at least in my experience just dont pack the bowl so much. And have patience for your body to adjust. As soon as I stopped packing my crafty so full I could take bigger hits with much less coughing if any. Everyone is different so you just need to experiment. Another member also stated if you increase air restriction mouth hits are easier and fuller. Full pack dense with oil pad. I actually prefer mouth to lung hits but since the crafty my experience is better with packing a full bowl but not dense and lung hitting.

No problem man. Try hand broken buds with inhaling in the nouth first. That's the best experience I have had with the crafty so far. Doesn't seem to work well with finely ground material because it leaks into the cooling chamber and makes it harsher. What Im wondering is how skyvaper inhales directly into his lungs without coughing? To me the only way to vape this thing is inhale in your mouth first or it really irritates your throat and makes you cough and it's weird because I dont notice this as much with other vapes. Possibly the straw has something to do with it being more difficult to not directly inhale?
Packing less material helped with not coughing on big hits straight to the lungs. Packing a full dense chamber was too much for my throat and the sessions were too long for what I enjoy. Ive had 25 min session on crafty with a full pack. And no my cu was not dirty.
 
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skyvaper,

Krizzle

Hi Very high
Yeah the thought of this made me slightly uncomfortable, lol

For your reclaim just leave the glass dish outside if you can under cover or in a shed and let it evaporate off naturally. Less fire less boom boom bang bang and still hella good reclaim :) scrape that shizzle up with razor blade and put it in one of those non stick container or glass jars.
 
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DMPesso

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Mouth hit is where you draw and it sits in your mouth and then take a breath to pull the vapor. If your mouth hitting you should be able to breath at the same time or like using a straw to drink. To spare yourself the harshness at least in my experience just dont pack the bowl so much. And have patience for your body to adjust. As soon as I stopped packing my crafty so full I could take bigger hits with much less coughing if any. Everyone is different so you just need to experiment. Another member also stated if you increase air restriction mouth hits are easier and fuller. Full pack dense with oil pad. I actually prefer mouth to lung hits but since the crafty my experience is better with packing a full bowl but not dense and lung hitting.


Packing less material helped with not coughing on big hits straight to the lungs. Packing a full dense chamber was too much for my throat and the sessions were too long for what I enjoy. Ive had 25 min session on crafty with a full pack. And no my cu was not dirty.

So your saying the best hits are from a full bowl but not tight just fluffy pack and direct to lungs draw? Or the other method is a not fully packed chamber that is packed tight? What about breaking up? You use grinded finely or hand broken? I am really having the best taste hardly any harshness with hand broken but for some reason when grinding it gets harsh and hot. Now I'm just trying to master big hits with hand broken

On a side note - this thing really is efficient I put the vaped at max temp ABV under the 420 mini scope and there was basically no THC left. I saw just some of the glands without the trichome heads on them, pretty cool!

I chuckle every time I read "cu" on the forum. In Portuguese the word has a very different meaning. :lmao:

:peace:

That's hillarious
 
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lazylathe

Almost there...
So I thought my Crafty was broken for a few days...
No lights at all but it still buzzed and heated up and vaped normally!
WTF??

I don't often use the app, just leave it set at 190 and boost to 210. Makes life easier.

Then I remembered that I was screwing around with the app the other night!! I had turned the LED all the way down!!!

Time to Crafty again!!!
Think the Crafty was being crafty with my memory...
 

DMPesso

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It's really annoying I can't stop the cooling unit from getting bud all in it with the default screen. Is everyone else having this problem or is it just me. After only 2 sessions there will be bud all in it
 
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skyvaper

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It's really annoying I can't stop the cooling unit from getting bud all in it with the default screen. Is everyone else having this problem or is it just me. After only 2 sessions there will be bud all in it
I use the fine screen and have NO abv in the cooling unit. Just the oil. Makes a big difference.
 

DMPesso

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I use the fine screen and have NO abv in the cooling unit. Just the oil. Makes a big difference.

But I can't understand why they would use the other one is it meant for this to happen? How finely do you grind your bud and how much do you pack it to get clouds? I didn't get as big of clouds and it had more draw restriction when I used the fine screen
 
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skyvaper

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But I can't understand why they would use the other one is it meant for this to happen? How finely do you grind your bud and how much do you pack it to get clouds? I didn't get as big of clouds and it had more draw restriction when I used the fine screen
It does have more draw restriction with fine screen and I believe they thought to have little to no draw restriction was better which is why they chose the original screen. I prefer less maintenance over the slight difference in the air flow with the fine screen. I use a 4 piece grinder for coarse material. I USE to pack full and dense but that made my sessions too long and made me cough too much. I pretty much fill it all the way loosely and NO packing it down. Remember cloud production has many factors. Material strength, dryness of material, temp, draw length and strength of draw. You can have great technique to get the clouds but if your material is not that great you wont see the massive hits your hoping for. You could also have great material and poor technique and waste a great session.
 
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darkrom

Great Scott!
Got an email from S&B saying I need to send the crafty in to make it compatible with the latest version of android.

Maybe mine is just broken, but it sounds like it needs a firmware update.
 

OMEiAM

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Got an email from S&B saying I need to send the crafty in to make it compatible with the latest version of android.

Maybe mine is just broken, but it sounds like it needs a firmware update.
I got the same email. At least now I have a legitimate reason for sending it in for diagnostics. :)
 
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K-nub

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Got an email from S&B saying I need to send the crafty in to make it compatible with the latest version of android.

Maybe mine is just broken, but it sounds like it needs a firmware update.
We should ask them if they can update the firmware to include a third heat setting by pressing the button three times and this will make the crafty perfect!
 
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h3rbalist

I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too
So a gram of Shatter turned up in the post yesterday from my Canadian connection.

After some thoroughly enjoyable testing :D I can confirm that a dab of Shatter on the liquid pad at max temp will give you about a 10 minute session. With some nice clouds.

:nod:

It was not as intense as doing a dab on my blackleaf bubbler but I'm assuming its because the Crafty moderates the dosage rather than giving all the goodness in one hit.

Any more tips or advive as to other ways of consuming my concentrates from you pros would be great.

:peace:
 

vapekush

Member
What's up guys.

I posted here a while back asking some questions about the Crafty especially in comparison to the Solo, which I have owned myself. Recently, I've decided to pull the trigger and buy a Crafty. So far it's served me pretty well and I do like it a lot, but it's not without its drawbacks and I still have a special place in my heart for the Solo. I plan on making another post in the near feature in which I detail my thoughts about the Crafty, but for right now I wanted to post about a case for it.

This thread is pretty big right now and I haven't had time to sift through every single page so I don't know if this has been posted before, but I thought I'd share with you guys. Last night, during an expedition to Micro Center, I came across an assortment of camera cases. Intrigued, I rummaged through a colorful selection until a certain little case caught my eye. Upon further inspection, I came to the conclusion that it was my best chance at a case that would protect my little treasure. Satisfied with my choice, I paid at the register and took home the Lowepro Santiago 20.

For the Crafty, the Santiago 20 is a very snug fit. It's designed for a valuable, delicate electronic in mind, thus perfect for my trusty vaporizer. The inside of the case is lined with a soft, thin fabric that I doubt will pill or otherwise shed while providing a bit of cushion and protection to the vape. More importantly though, the case is very much a hardshell that provides crucial protection. The fit is tight and does not allow for the vape to move around inside at all but it's not so tight that zippering it up is a pain in the ass. This is a pretty barebones case, with not much space at all for anything but the Crafty. Inside, there's a little sleeve for a small piece of paper or something, and on the opposite side is an elastic band.

Overall, the Lowepro Santiago 20 is a fantastic case for the Crafty. It will provide a snug fit and it's perfect for anytime you have to throw it a bag without worrying of damaging your $400 investment. I think the thing that I love most about the Crafty is its stealth and simplicity of use. It's so, so incredibly nice to be able to slip it in your pocket for a hike in the woods or just drive to your park and take a sip without anyone giving you stares. This is a product designed to get it there safely. For someone who's always on the go, this is a great choice.

To be completely honest, this was sort of a blind buy. I usually do a lot of research before buying something but last night I thought I couldn't go wrong with this case. I'm very pleased with my purchase, but I would love to hear your guys' thoughts on it and in general the topic of cases for the Crafty. Let me know if there's a better option out there, I'd be glad to upgrade!

I picked this up for about $20 at Micro Center but you can get one at Amazon for like $9 and with Lowepro being such an ubiquitous brand of camera accessories, I'm sure you can find one at your local electronics shop.

Thanks for reading my miniature novel, but even if you didn't, here's some pics:





 

adam_baumm

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I've been meaning to change mine. I heard it is easy to scratch the side while changing.... How did u change yours?
I have changed mine 3 times, it makes the hits stay clean. But I have managed to get some nice scratching from the screen on the sides of my oven/bowl.

Please post any info that may help users with changing out the bottom screen.

Thanks
 
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