The Magic-Flight Box
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chimpybits
Well-Known Member
Heya, yet another battery post. I had intended to pick up another pair of batteries from Blissville or puffitup, but impulsively (compulsively perhaps) found myself walking out of a local head shop with a pair. They appear identical to those that came with my mflb (model just prior to the latch) except they have markings on the side. They are marked as POWEREX AA1240-AAQO. According to a post in April on this thread "The batteries that came with my MFLB recently purchased from Blissville have factory inkjet markings of: POWEREX AA1240-AAQO".
However, Vitolo recommends the Powerex AAI240-AAAO or PowerexAAI240-AAAT from Blissville or puffitup. What is the difference between these and the (I assume older model) AAQO I now have? I haven't yet tried my new batts.
Also, by the way I also picked up the mflb wand which looks to be fine except only about a foot long of tubing unlike the 2 or 3 feet offered at Blissville or puffitup. The shop will be bringing in wood stems and brushes next week which I will check out. Hopefully they will know the type of wood - not that I've made any decision on wood type. Once I have these and the OEM grinder and spare push back ring (online) I should be done shopping for this unit. I do prefer shopping locally though it costs more - I like supporting 2 businesses.
However, Vitolo recommends the Powerex AAI240-AAAO or PowerexAAI240-AAAT from Blissville or puffitup. What is the difference between these and the (I assume older model) AAQO I now have? I haven't yet tried my new batts.
Also, by the way I also picked up the mflb wand which looks to be fine except only about a foot long of tubing unlike the 2 or 3 feet offered at Blissville or puffitup. The shop will be bringing in wood stems and brushes next week which I will check out. Hopefully they will know the type of wood - not that I've made any decision on wood type. Once I have these and the OEM grinder and spare push back ring (online) I should be done shopping for this unit. I do prefer shopping locally though it costs more - I like supporting 2 businesses.
Nycdeisel
Well-Known Member
quick chargers especially the 15 minute ones KILL you batteries so quick, I was using Eneloops and a energizer 15-min charger for a long time and the battery performance really suffered.
I now use the batts that are currently included in the kit, the Powerex AAI240-AAAO ones, plus a C-9000 charger and always have great working batteries all the time!
I now use the batts that are currently included in the kit, the Powerex AAI240-AAAO ones, plus a C-9000 charger and always have great working batteries all the time!
Vitolo
Vaporist
No.. I use the stock batteries and get 4 solid trenches.sundaddy said:
There seems to always be juice left, but my trenches get inconsitant after 4, so I dont risk the frustration of an unfinished trench!
@sydnee wipe with 91% Iso andthen rinse with hot water, and try "dawn" dont soak in iso.. just wipe off.
stoney
Alex
What is everyone's method for teaching new people how to use the box? I've had a lot of trouble trying to explain it in groups. It seems like everyone I show it to is unimpressed by the box's performance, undoubtedly because of the learning curve (although all of my vapor inclined friends definitely see the benefits of the MFLB).
Any tips on explaining the box to newbies? I'd really like some friends to enjoy this thing at least half as much as I do.
Any tips on explaining the box to newbies? I'd really like some friends to enjoy this thing at least half as much as I do.
JDSupreme
Head of Pot
stoney said:
Use the stem so they can see the vapor.
Tell them to hit the tip of the stem like its a tiny hot roach and explain the slow pulsing technique.
Be sure to say "Don't hit this like you're hitting a pipe"
My buddy hit mine the other day for the first time and pulled a nice rip! I was impressed!
Vitolo
Vaporist
I hand them the instructions, and make them read it.
I make them watch a vid or 2 that I did not make.
Then I do a trench.
Then I pass them an older box, and we do one side by side.
I use cheerleading while they do their 1st "solo flight" ......
"let the battery out"... "keep drawing..."
It works on a one on one basis....
SO---->
I forget all others and teach one person.. Then I teach the next.
1st guy that gets perfect hits.... gets to "take over" my job with the rest of the group.
(While I use one of my prized personal boxes off on the side to give a secondary visual as another does the talking!)
I make them watch a vid or 2 that I did not make.
Then I do a trench.
Then I pass them an older box, and we do one side by side.
I use cheerleading while they do their 1st "solo flight" ......
"let the battery out"... "keep drawing..."
It works on a one on one basis....
SO---->
I forget all others and teach one person.. Then I teach the next.
1st guy that gets perfect hits.... gets to "take over" my job with the rest of the group.
(While I use one of my prized personal boxes off on the side to give a secondary visual as another does the talking!)
Nycdeisel
Well-Known Member
Love your teaching method Vitolo! Mine is similar. First i talk a bunch about it and demonstrate it, then I carefully and slowly coach them through the first hit and the few following, same thing, you cant teach everyone at once, one-on-one is the best way to teach!
HighSti
Vaporist-Secularist
I would just say draw slow and steady- you will feel the heat if done right (no stem). draw for about 10 seconds and then pull the battery out.
Some people get the hang of it pretty quick, others take a good amount of coaching..
The novice doesn't normally bother me if they are doing it wrong unless they combust.. which in that case i give them a 30 sec talk about how that is the improper way of doing it and they need to pull slightly faster.
But honestly, I try to keep the box a personal thing just because yes, it is tedious to teach a new one.
Some people get the hang of it pretty quick, others take a good amount of coaching..
The novice doesn't normally bother me if they are doing it wrong unless they combust.. which in that case i give them a 30 sec talk about how that is the improper way of doing it and they need to pull slightly faster.
But honestly, I try to keep the box a personal thing just because yes, it is tedious to teach a new one.
Lo
Combustion free since '09
I've shown a ton of people how to use the LB and one thing that really helped was telling them to "just let the vapor fall into their mouth" Smokers tend to draw too hard/fast even when I tell them SLOW.... I repeat S...L...O...W..lol. They just don't get it but when I say let vapor fall into their mouth - they catch on very quickly.
charliedontsurf
Medical
Telling people to puff on it can be a hugely helpful shortcut. The brief pause between puffs allows the temp to raise up and so can give them an epiphany moment.
I hear the newer boxes run hotter than the older models, and also have a bigger air intake to reduce the learning curve.. Teaching people to use the box for the first time can be quite a chore.
I hear the newer boxes run hotter than the older models, and also have a bigger air intake to reduce the learning curve.. Teaching people to use the box for the first time can be quite a chore.
Vato805
King Of The Jungle
For all those wondering, or wanting some ideas here is how i carry my MFLB wherever i go. (lighter just for size comparison, and the AVB container has hash cause i havent been able to make time to hit up the shop hopefully they have a smaller one so its flush in the carry pouch)
Inside:
1-MFLB
1-AVB container
8-Batteries
1-Glass stem
1-Cleaning Brush
1-Mini Grinder
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Inside:
1-MFLB
1-AVB container
8-Batteries
1-Glass stem
1-Cleaning Brush
1-Mini Grinder
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