First Four-Twenty Lounge: a sanctuary for when it's too early in the morning

Now that I've been here a while and have been a MMJ chronic pain patient for the past eight months, I've realized that I am not unique in having at least an occasional need to medicate in the middle of the night.

This time used to be a nightmare for me. I would wake up desperately in pain and feel so isolated and scared and feeling that I had to wait until morning came for everyone else to start my day. The only thing I could come up with to change this was to make it into a pleasant ritual. I let my wife know I'm getting up if she stirs when it takes me a few minutes to get out of bed and dressed. Then I head to the kitchen and boil a cup of water for tea while I prepare any medications I need. From there, anything can happen from just going back to sleep to something silly like what I did this morning: outdoor headlamp gardening in the rain.

I hope that this can be a place for anything and everything related to middle of the night cannabis enjoyment. But this is not for just MMJ talk, as I would also love to hear about anyone's cannabis relayed antics that happen when "too late at night" becomes "too early in the morning".



So, welcome to the First Four-Twenty Lounge

I wake up around 430 for work I find myself waking up constantly between 4 a d 430 so I might just start getting up at 4

I was up again at nearly midnight, so I took another cannapaste capsule & dabbed a little LA Confidential, and went back to bed...

that lasted until about 3:30. Then, it was the hot-flash-chill cycle until 6, when my alarm went off. That's when I discovered I'd accidentally set the shut-off timer on the new heater. Turned that on, and snoozed until 7am.

Pulled a muscle/started a spasm. Did my f'in' 5 Tibetans anyway, and now I'm gearing up for work.

It's going to be a great day, really.

Enchantre said:

I was up again at nearly midnight, so I took another cannapaste capsule & dabbed a little LA Confidential, and went back to bed...that lasted until about 3:30. Then, it was the hot-flash-chill cycle until 6, when my alarm went off. Pulled a muscle/started a spasm. Did my f'in' 5 Tibetans anyway, and now I'm gearing up for work.

It's going to be a great day, really.

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The last sentence in your post says it all....

I find it intersting that so many find cannabis sleep inducing. To me I feel good and energized when dosed, so I tend to get more shit done. The only way that it helps me with sleep is that I'm completely exhuasted when I do hit the rack (plus I don't hurt as much) so I sleep soundly...but I don't find it to be a sedative.

clukx said:

I wake up around 430 for work I find myself waking up constantly between 4 a d 430 so I might just start getting up at 4

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I'd average it out at 4:20 and make a ritual out of it (you work at home right?)

I know what you mean. I can't sleep if I get high. I have to get stoned instead.

bad night for me with the pain
, and then I had to come home from work early because the pain just kept increasing .... so yeah even today 2nd 420 isn't thrilling for me.

I have baked some cookies with reclaim. ..we'll see how they work. ..

@basement farmer no unfortunately I do not work at home yet! still trying to figure out how to make that work for me!
but tomorrow I think I will have a 420 ritual before I go in!

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@Enchantre I love reclaim cookies! pain relieving knockout snacks.

Reclaim cookies are .. meh. I overheated the butter I dissolved the reclaim in, so I killed most of the residual THC... and the pain killing ability is limited, too.

It's okay, I'm a lot better today than yesterday.

Well @Enchantre , it is confession time. The reason I made a version of your massage oil was to make a form of "Hippie Ambien" with gel caps to swallow. In so much pain and constipated from taking a little extra pain meds the other night that I decided to shove a couple capsules up my butt as suppositories.

Long story short: I haven't needed this thread since doing that.

Thank you, as without the assurance that this might help topically, I never would have spent the past three months slowly collecting the previously composted AVB. I owe you one.

That's awesome, @ChippyMalone ... it works as a capsule? I might start doing that, then... I have some ABV capsules to use for that.

Last night, while I was acting the spectre in the kitchen, my hubby showed up! he wasn't doing well, either... so, we both had our midnight oil, and went to bed again.

I didn't burn the midnight oil... low-temp vape

Good morning! I know it's a little after 4:20...

Anybody here???

(Thinks to self for a moment)...

Damn...guess I'm too late today...

(Kicks door closed on way out of lounge)

I'm up . . . and vaped, in pain, at 4:20. Its been a tough couple days. Debilitating. I'm actually recovering from the flare up now.

I also find vaping "stimulating". I usually need an hour to calm down before trying to sleep. I usually mess around in my lab or read/post here on FC . . .

Happy 4:20 AM everyone . . .

i bought some syrup branded qualitech, supposed to look like the promethazine codeine syrup the bottle has similar packaging but packs 780 mg of thc in one 4oz bottle it seems to work wonders so far

t-dub said:

Happy 4:20 AM everyone . . .

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Sorry and hope you feel better, but I kinda got a chuckle that you posted this at 7:14 am. I remember getting lots of good Wellcome/lemmon fresh sleep with 714s.

I miss those days myself.

My clock said 4:20 when I posted that, interesting it was 6 minutes off. West coast is the best coast

One day i'll figure out this time zone stuff.

I'm on the west coast of Florida and believe it's the best coast (in the East at least).

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RUDE BOY said:

One day i'll figure out this time zone stuff.

I'm on the west coast of Florida and believe it's the best coast (in the East at least).

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Ohh a Sarasota boy eh? My folks used to live there. Nice place . . .

t-dub said:

I'm up . . . and vaped, in pain, at 4:20. Its been a tough couple days. Debilitating. I'm actually recovering from the flare up now.

I also find vaping "stimulating". I usually need an hour to calm down before trying to sleep. I usually mess around in my lab or read/post here on FC . . .

Happy 4:20 AM everyone . . .

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Hope you feel better T-Dub! I'm the same way, I need to medicate at least an hour before bed, and have at least an hour to let the effects settle. For this hour, I usually watch whatever garbage is on TV, or surf the web. This prevents me from laying in bed awake, anxious, and twiddling my thumbs like a compulsive weirdo.

I just had surgery a few days ago, and between anxiety and pain, falling asleep has been a struggle. What works for me on these rough nights are edibles, they knock me out cold. I usually eat them right around dinner, and enjoy a good high while waiting for bed. This way, by the time the edibles are peaking, I'm about to pass out. This has been working great for me, it knocks me out cold, it becomes a struggle to stay awake, and it really helps with my pain. I never really bonded with edibles until more recently, and now I'm loving it.

From 1130 last night, sleep was elusive. ...
I had planned on trying the other way to take canna oil, but forgot.

Hot surges all night, pretty annoying.

ChippyMalone said:

I hope that this can be a place for anything and everything related to middle of the night cannabis enjoyment.

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Does this thread apply to us night owls too?

Magic9 said:

Does this thread apply to us night owls too?

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Yes, anyone who vapes while the world sleeps.

Third shifter right here. 10pm-6am.
Good thing my Minicron gets me through that...

I like it actually. I can choose when i sleep more easily.
Quieter at the shop during those hours too..I can run my thread roller in piece.

Well, I've had a really rough week: probably some of the worst nights I've had in a long time. But lots of great progress made this week that I cannot complain, really. Got a new futon mattress to put down on the floor in the bedroom. I'm sleeping in the same room with my wife, even if I'm on a dog bed on the floor, so that's a good thing. The top neurosurgeon in Seattle told me that he wouldn't do surgery on me for quite some time, as I may benefit from an implanted spinal cord stimulator. But I've got to wait until February to even meet with the Borg Collective representative to schedule my assimilation date.

The weirdest and worst thing happened two nights ago. I woke up needing to go to the bathroom. With my butt full of cannabis oil suppositories and constipation from increased pain meds, I discovered my wife had forgotten to change the toilet paper roll in the middle of the night. So I went to the guest bathroom, but discovered that the sick cat isolated in there had diarrhea outside the box that had to be cleaned up. Since I cannot bend or reach like I used to, when I am in the most pain scooping litter boxes means that I need to take off my clothes because my knees, shins, backs of my feet, and toes are going to have to touch the floor immediately next to the litter box. Even with good cats, this means that you end up having to sit in scattered and possibly used cat litter until the job is finished. I lost it when my wife told me that waking up and taking a shower at 2 in the morning was unacceptable. The increased pain and two weeks without decent sleep had me sundowning and unable to understand that people around me were not creating booby traps to hurt and torture me. The good thing is that my wife works with blind veterans who are working through the process of being newly disabled, so even though I made her cry, she knew that it was not really me yelling at her in the middle of the night and that this was the only way I was able to really explain that my pain was really greater than anybody knew.

I feel terrible for yelling at my sweet wife in the middle of the night, as this is just not remotely close to our normal communication. Have to say that being loved by someone who can still love you when you are yelling at them irrationally is a pretty good thing. However, I have to admit that I am secretly pleased that I think that I have won the decade long battle to convince her that replacing the toilet paper is the broken up thing to do, onsidering that she is in there all the time and uses 95% of what gets used in the house. I suspect she eats the stuff!!!!

Morning vape of Pink Haze and listening to the Temptations. . . herbal tea didn't settle my stomach, but I have an untouched forest berry pie that came or of the oven last night.

Hubby and i have separate tp rolls... but only because of the difference in reach and where the standard one is installed.

Today is my hormone panel day. ... had to "collect" saliva at exactly 30 minutes after i "first wake up"... which wake-up should i use? I waited until 5:30, and headed to the bathroom.

@ChippyMalone hope the futon works for you. ... i needed weeks of dedicated flipping&beating to get mine just right. .. but the improvement was nearly immediate.

Two capsules didn't seem to really do anything. ... i will make actual suppositories instead. ...

For me, if i can avoid talking during the wee hours, it's easier to drop back to sleep. ...