I've been lurking around this thread for a good long while now and figure it is time to contribute.
After several years of farting around but not entirely committing to an Atmos pen with Omicron cartos, I broke my dab rig and decided that I no longer had room in my life for elaborate, expensive, fragile glass.
After about 3 hours of only using the Atmos and Omicron cartos, I was fed up with the crummy hits and the constant fight to not clog, but keep my concentrate thin so I could pull my measly hits out of the carto.
Took a trip, and picked up a SToK pen, which was discounted for the day so I didn't really bat an eye when they proposed it. This device is a non-vv battery that came with an atomizer with a ceramic inlay and 30 or 32 gauge wrapped around some silica.
This guy was adequate, but didn't deliver the 'nail' hit I was looking for. Also, charging was exclusive of using, so if the battery was fried... I wasn't.
I upgraded from there to an iTaste vv v3, and a Catarpillar RDA and started building my own coils and devising my own rig, instead of trying to buy something out of the box as that was clearly not giving me the results I was seeking.
The combo was good. I realized I don't like using wicks for concentrates whatsoever. After that realization, I started building coils that would hopefully eliminate my need for wicking as much as possible, which led to some coil-over-coil builds that the 11w iTaste vv v3 just couldn't push.
I now sit with a fake-ass HanaMod 30w with the same Catarpillar RDA but a new coil setup @ .8ohms/30W and am a happy man. That said- I do not use a wick, and do have to spend a little time every day re-claiming some oil splatter. I prefer it that way... probably not in the overwhelming majority in that statement.
Without further ado-- my rig:
Twisted 30g in a stacked skillet configuration. The top skillet is where I place the dab. It heats and melts the dab to the bottom skillet, which heats faster than the top, thanks to the fact that the top is burdened with melting the concentrate.
This coil is about 3 months old and has seen repeated abuse on the daily so I make no apologies for the current aesthetics. On top of that, I just used it to melt down probably a quarter-gram of shatter dust that I haven't entirely reclaimed as you can see. That's one of the nice things about this, too-- put shatter/cruble/wax/whatever dust in the well away from the coil, close it up and heat it to melt and homogenize your leftovers.
In those 3 months, this coil has probably vaped through, I dunno, like 12-16 grams?
Your build has totally inspired me to make a rig of my own to post in the near future. I have been a very happy owner of a SSV for 8 years now after many years of burning in many forms, unfortunately cigarettes surely were a huge amount of my burning as well. Three years ago I quit smoking cigarettes with ecigs being the way out for me and have learned much from the Vaping forums about ecigs. In my exploits on the forums I won a Persei but did not live in a state where I could access the concentrates needed to use the device as it was intended. I am now in a state where I am registered and numbered among the others here and can access the concentrates needed for the device. I wasn't as excited bout the Persei with the carts that came with it but I do believe upgrades could make it a better experience. The pricy upgrades are outta my reach financially and purchasing a dab rig is same story. I came here to see if I was doing something wrong or was I gonna have to invest to really love the battery tube. I of course explored the rest of the forum and found this thread. JOY!!!! I have been active pursuing my vaping with the ejuice and have a similar mod I use for everyday use as well as a Legacy tube mode with several dripping attys and I am pretty sure my idea will fly high so to speak. I will find a RDA like yours or maybe the IGO L that I am using now for ejuice. I plan on building a micro coil style with a ceramic cup from a scavenged CE2 cart from a couple years back. Prolly have some brand new ones even. I figure to double wrap the cup with the coil. If that doesn't work I'll use a stainless steel #400 mesh to gain a small amount of control over the spatter. I look forward to posting my adventure and posting here for the second time.I've been lurking around this thread for a good long while now and figure it is time to contribute.
After several years of farting around but not entirely committing to an Atmos pen with Omicron cartos, I broke my dab rig and decided that I no longer had room in my life for elaborate, expensive, fragile glass.
After about 3 hours of only using the Atmos and Omicron cartos, I was fed up with the crummy hits and the constant fight to not clog, but keep my concentrate thin so I could pull my measly hits out of the carto.
Took a trip, and picked up a SToK pen, which was discounted for the day so I didn't really bat an eye when they proposed it. This device is a non-vv battery that came with an atomizer with a ceramic inlay and 30 or 32 gauge wrapped around some silica.
This guy was adequate, but didn't deliver the 'nail' hit I was looking for. Also, charging was exclusive of using, so if the battery was fried... I wasn't.
I upgraded from there to an iTaste vv v3, and a Catarpillar RDA and started building my own coils and devising my own rig, instead of trying to buy something out of the box as that was clearly not giving me the results I was seeking.
The combo was good. I realized I don't like using wicks for concentrates whatsoever. After that realization, I started building coils that would hopefully eliminate my need for wicking as much as possible, which led to some coil-over-coil builds that the 11w iTaste vv v3 just couldn't push.
I now sit with a fake-ass HanaMod 30w with the same Catarpillar RDA but a new coil setup @ .8ohms/30W and am a happy man. That said- I do not use a wick, and do have to spend a little time every day re-claiming some oil splatter. I prefer it that way... probably not in the overwhelming majority in that statement.
Without further ado-- my rig:
Twisted 30g in a stacked skillet configuration. The top skillet is where I place the dab. It heats and melts the dab to the bottom skillet, which heats faster than the top, thanks to the fact that the top is burdened with melting the concentrate.
This coil is about 3 months old and has seen repeated abuse on the daily so I make no apologies for the current aesthetics. On top of that, I just used it to melt down probably a quarter-gram of shatter dust that I haven't entirely reclaimed as you can see. That's one of the nice things about this, too-- put shatter/cruble/wax/whatever dust in the well away from the coil, close it up and heat it to melt and homogenize your leftovers.
In those 3 months, this coil has probably vaped through, I dunno, like 12-16 grams?
DNA40 is unreal just a little pricey, but the temperature control is the future of regulated mods. Most people don't dilute their concentrate here, there are a few other threads for this that you might find more help in like my secret to thc e-cig or best clearo for pure gold. Also cotton will burn at just about any temp you will vape at, the key is keeping wet so you don't get nasty dry hits.
yep. thats 22g kanthal twisted and hammered flat... like a smithy!
are you talking literally a glass button, like from a shirt or blouse or just a small button sized glass disk or coil?Those are some amazing coil builds and rigs! WOW! I'll throw this out here, I've mentioned it in passing before, and it's the idea of using a glass "pan" to place the oil/wax onto, and have the coil heat it indirectly. That prevents burning.
I always thought a Ti nail runs at very high temp, I mean I use a Butane torch and get is HOT, but when I measured with an IR gun what I found was that by the time the dab hits the nail, it has usually cooled down to under 500 deg F, and dropping. So it's getting down close to the ~ 350-420 Deg boiling temp of the various cannabinoids and terpenes, and not at all as hot as red hot metal. When I was dabbing directly onto a red hot resistance wire coil, it was much much hotter than a Ti nail.
I've had good results with smearing oil onto the glass "button" like in this photo instead of a wick. If the dab is too big it melts down onto the coil and starts burning.
The rod ceramic wicks can do the same thing. So it's a matter of building the right setup for your needs, as in using a bigger "pan" for bigger dabs, to hold it long enough to vaporize. For me what can be smeared onto this little button gives 2-3 good hits, enough oil for me.
The fact that most VV batteries don't go below 3.3 V is a nuisance, it would be nice to have more control/range.
@Timothymdq you can upload images to Photobucket. They then give you the option to grab links, you take what they call a "direct" link to your clipboard, then use the little picture icon in the toolbar of the FC message editor, and paste the link into the input box. The image then shows up in the message while being stored on Photobucket.
My local headshop sells these kinds of glass screens. I have a few around here somewhere.
