The Arizer Air

I tried using a bit of slightly wet cotton in the air path today to add a bit of moisture to my vaporizing experience. I tried using a larger amount, almost filling the entire stem, that restricted airflow. Using about 1/4 full, maybe even a little less seemed to work better. The cotton is not dripping wet, wring it out.

I think it was @OF that suggested this.

Chainfire said:

is there any way to reduce the draw constriction? It's extremely hard to draw off the Air.. It's like I'm sucking my lungs out trying to get a nice sized drag.. Should I bump the heat?

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I've had the "hoovering on a thick milkshake through a miniscule straw" experience and for me, it has everything to do with how I pack it. I switched back to the plastic tipped stem, and I prefer the one with a larger bowl. I can pack it fairly leafy / loosely and it sits in there nicely. Another trick I find is to spin the stem in place. Seems to tweak the airflow a bit for me, could be the fit or little bits between the stem and chamber are sandwiched slightly between the draw holes.

using "cured herb" helps too -- lower moisture content from having it stored properly seems to make a difference for me. (I assume that's what cured / dry means)

Chainfire said:

I'm thinking that it will really help with producing more vapor quicker.

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I wouldn't say it's faster necessarily? Although I think if you pack the bowl farther away from the heating element, you can let it "pre cook" a bit without boiling too much off.

I wouldn't leave it idle super long, though. Depending on how (badly?) I've packed it, things can get a bit toasted. Perhaps that's just the nature of the beast, though! I think this is why some other vapes have more aggressive shutoff timers? Not just battery life, but you can cook it a lot if you just leave it there til the 10 minute shutoff kicks in.

I'm getting better at using it every time, and it's so satisfying that you can use it so many ways and tweak it for what you like best. Don't even care that I didn't hold out for Boxing Day etc sales

edit: clarified and mentioned don't over toast it.

Chainfire said:

Thanks Carol! I will try maybe setting it to green as well. I'm thinking that it will really help with producing more vapor quicker.

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The biggest thing is technique. Slow your roll MAN! A nice slow slow sip is much better than trying to pull faster and struggling as you posted. Pull much slower and let us know if that helps. In my experience it makes a big difference. Work with the machine not against it (what I was doing at first).

olivianewtonjohn said:

D020

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thank you. but i was wondering if it was d020-w/d/f...etc. i feel like there are a few dif submodels of the d020 & i didn't know what it was. i posted my buying experience in the "cheap glass" thread (summary = positive).

Barhen said:

I am assuming that this person used a custom stem to make it work with that glass piece? I am noob to vape accessories and I'd love a setup like this for home use.

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i actually bought a solo from a local FCer & got a shitload of extras. in order to prevent glass on glass friction & properly fit it, i put 2 little silicone sleeves on the 14mm "turbo"(?) stem to 18mm female d020(?) bubbler & thats the setup. it was useful for this painful playoff weekend...

z9 said:

They're using some sort of GonG, likely made for the solo. A GonG and glass piece with matching joint sizes are all you need.

Read the first few posts if this thread if you need to brush up on your glass basics. http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/glass-101.7222/

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i just caught up on this air thread after a busy holiday season & saw that some people report that the solo stems may loosen up the air system. i pretty much use the air for when I'm out&about only & pretty much use it w that "long" mouthpiece w black plastic tip. i just put the air on there for the pic...my air is not even on in the pic...thats my regular solo setup.

fabronaut said:

The plastic tipped mouthpieces for the Air are actually sized to fit inside a 14mm glass joint. That said, in the photo with the laptop, it looks like one of the PlanetVape.ca GonG (Glass on Glass) adapters for the Solo. I am based in India...

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bhai-saab, i haven't been able to try the plastic tip w a 14mm female cuz i don't got a 14mm f. but its been just only about my dozenth try w the "long" air w plastic tip piece & its been already spewing oil from the mouthpiece. had to dome a screen on that bhanchod & clean it already just so i could breathe.

about the silicone sleeve, i thought i would never use it but i actually never took it off yet. it serves as a nice spot to tuck the poker at. as you might be able to see in my pic, i even leave a silicone layer on my keyboard, so i don't mind it at all. ya, its ugly, but nobody gets to see my air anyways...(thats a lie, people at the bars often ask me what it is & want to try it...but thats an even better reason for me to have the sleeve on it)

Can someone clarify the situation with overheating? @CarolKing has mentioned that the unit shuts down on high temps.
Would this happen if 2 people use the air at mid temps?
I tend to use 2 to 3 bowls back to back so would this be a problem, or will i stick with my thrusted SOLO?

I think someone reported earlier that the long stem with no mouthpiece (solo? I don't have one so I'm guessing) has much more draw restriction than the either of the air stems with mouthpiece.

I just started using that solo stem this weekend and I can confirm that it's the same for me. Seems like it should be the opposite but hasn't worked that way in practice for me. Those little plastic mouthpieces are magic.

Have there been any reports of faulty units that anyone knows of ?tome that margin would be extremely small since this is basically a more sleek compact version of the solo.

valence said:

I think someone reported earlier that the long stem with no mouthpiece (solo? I don't have one so I'm guessing) has much more draw restriction than the either of the air stems with mouthpiece.

I just started using that solo stem this weekend and I can confirm that it's the same for me. Seems like it should be the opposite but hasn't worked that way in practice for me. Those little plastic mouthpieces are magic.

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I think that the right mouthpiece can give a power and ease to your draw that can outweigh what is technically higher resistance. I noticed this on the Solo when I had one. Using the stealth adaptor with a straw, the resistance felt less than using the regular PVHES even though the narrower tube of the stealth adaptor and the added length of the straw meant that the resistance HAD to be higher. I attribute this to the greater comfort of the straw.

I had a PNWT and used this with both the PVHES and the stealth adaptor and the resistence was definitely greater with the later, reenforcing my theory about the mouthpiece. It also explains why people tend to disagree on whether the plastic-tipped stem has lower or higher resistance than the all-glass one. Those who find the plastic-tipped stem more comfortable may perceive it to have less resistance.

I never really got comfortable with the Solo stem and prefered hitting it with the wider PNWT or the narrower straw or Thermovape mouthpiece. I have a Lotus and don't find the metal stem that comfortable either.

I'm looking forward to getting an Air and hitting it with the new plastic-tipped mouthpiece or my Thermovape smooth-flow for some moisture. Just hopefully it will fit into the glass stem. I noticed that these 510 drip-tips would fit in some Solo stems but not others.

lookhigh said:

Can someone clarify the situation with overheating? @CarolKing has mentioned that the unit shuts down on high temps.
Would this happen if 2 people use the air at mid temps?
I tend to use 2 to 3 bowls back to back so would this be a problem, or will i stick with my thrusted SOLO?

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It didn't happen with me. On green, multiple times/bowls no problem. Mind you, I only had it for 2 weeks so small sample.

Tried a pwt copy yesterday that i got off dhgate with the stock stem as my 14mm , i could not even get it to bubble no matter how hard i pulled. How are other's doing this here ? Well today or tomorrow i should be getting a few Joda glass work stems in the mail for my Air and a 18mm adapter so im hoping they work great . I been really enjoying this machine and got the hang of it now. I also have a the alfa goboof vape coming to me also but i dont see how i could like it better than the air at this point.

Maybe Arizer or someone 3rd party can come up with an idea of silicone mouthpieces that fit on like the plastic but require no gasket (less cleaning). Also to fit directly 14mm

Yeah, that's right on the money. I really noticed a difference when I put it through a bubbler this morning -- slow and steady draw. Guess this is what ppl mean when they say milking it, since the vapor clouds are super thick!

cleaned my stems today -- used them as straws in a hot chocolate recipe I cooked up from scratch. The flavor that keeps on giving

Ecig tips Prob by pass a lot of this mouth peice heat issue If read on the inhalater xp or 05 forum basicle would have the same prob with hot mouth peice thermal safety switch on that one too

I know they dont sell the shorter mouthpiece stems but was curious the reasoning so I emailed arizer and they said they are not available due to demand. It seems like it was not worth stocking both sizes, which makes sense.

They have the larger size:
http://arizer.com/store/en/arizer-air-parts-accessories/95-air-glass-aroma-tubes.html

In the hand I wonder how much of a difference the two stems make?

Something weird just happened. I'm on about the 3rd session after fully charging the battery. I just put it on green and it was heating up, when it should of been done heating up it started doing a weird double blink. then a rapid triple blink.

I thought the battery was dying but it kept feeling hotter so I hit it and it was way too hot for green, I think it might have combusted but I'm at work so I didn't have time to check. Kind of scary, I hope it's not melting itself right now.

I'm using arizer's batteries and I've always charged through the unit.

Edit: Well it didn't melt but it did combust a few pieces of my herb. I could tell by the taste too.

Now I have tried both my batteries and neither works. It flashes like normal while heating up but when it reaches temp it starts rapidly flashing in sporadic patterns.

I'm a sad panda.

olivianewtonjohn said:

I know they dont sell the shorter mouthpiece stems but was curious the reasoning so I emailed arizer and they said they are not available due to demand. It seems like it was not worth stocking both sizes, which makes sense.

They have the larger size:
http://arizer.com/store/en/arizer-air-parts-accessories/95-air-glass-aroma-tubes.html

In the hand I wonder how much of a difference the two stems make?

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This is crazy you would think the shorter ones would be in higher demand. the short stems give this unit a stealth factor that they should be going with over the longer stems. Hell I even like the short bowl I am conserving like crazy

SiDankies said:

This is crazy you would think the shorter ones would be in higher demand. the short stems give this unit a stealth factor that they should be going with over the longer stems. Hell I even like the short bowl I am conserving like crazy

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hopefully they will switch to shorter ones down the road? I don't have my unit yet but told them I believed I would use the shortest stem the most.

I understand having 1 stem option if them must but agree shorter stem sounds more useful.

If you guys want spare short stems I recommend letting arizer know.

SiDankies said:

This is crazy you would think the shorter ones would be in higher demand. the short stems give this unit a stealth factor that they should be going with over the longer stems. Hell I even like the short bowl I am conserving like crazy

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What confuses me is why ship them out with the units at all in that case? Unless they are discontinuing them? Have only heard good things about these shorties here, must be more to the story...

SiDankies said:

This is crazy you would think the shorter ones would be in higher demand. the short stems give this unit a stealth factor that they should be going with over the longer stems. Hell I even like the short bowl I am conserving like crazy

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Actually it makes sense to me.

Production Planners would no doubt have scheduled equal numbers of the two stem styles. One of each per unit, along with one charger, one skin, one case and so on. "Just in time" purchasing would have scheduled the parts to arrive in equal numbers on schedule so the maximum number of complete units could be made with the least 'residual stock' each month. Initially service replacements (complete units or components) most likely would come from Production runs (as is pretty traditional).

Against that we seem to have a replacement for the longer of the new style stems? This one:


To me, that means they have 'extra' longer ones available but every short one they get represents a potential sale as a complete unit ($250) or a spare part ($10). Selling the short stem that could ship with a complete unit is clearly not a 'bean counter' first choice.

Once the rush is over I think Capitalism will bring us all 3 styles as component pieces. For now, I suspect the "demand" they're talking about is not from customers wanting spares but Production wanting to make profits for complete units.

Crazy like the proverbial fox if you asked me.

olivianewtonjohn said:

hopefully they will switch to shorter ones down the road?

If you guys want spare short stems I recommend letting arizer know.

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I suggest they should sell all 3 types. In fact I'm sure they will eventually. There are advantages to each I think? I think the original 'product' was a place holder, really, or it would have spelled out things better?

It's definitely still being developed and introduced as a product, changes are sure to come.

By all means contact them if you feel the need, but I'm quite confident they know there's some level of interest. Nobody had to suggest they offer bent and straight stems for Solo as replacements.........

OF

@OF did you ever find a replacement mouthpiece washer? One of mine has up and walked off the job and I was wondering if anyone has come across anything that works as a replacement. They just don't hit the same without it.

LongIslandmom said:

Gee - this device and all of its possibilities seem to be gaining steam. Does anyone think the price will go back down to $199. I want to check out if puff it up has it.

I hope Im not becoming addicted to buying vapes. Lol

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I predict AAir wil be readily available @ $179 or less this coming year.

alltoreup said:

@OF did you ever find a replacement mouthpiece washer? One of mine has up and walked off the job and I was wondering if anyone has come across anything that works as a replacement. They just don't hit the same without it.

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Does it make a difference without the washer? Do you get more particles in the mouth?

When this first came up I checked mine. One had a washer and one didn't. I had cleaned them at least a couple of times so I may have lost a washer without realizing it (as I didn't notice they even had washers) so I didn't know if one was supposed to have a washer or not. I switched them around and tried them in different combos, but couldn't really tell any difference. Of course, one must factor in the blurring of distinctions that occurs as a result of testing, ( ) but my conclusion was that it didn't make a significant amount of difference for me to care. So when I clean them the cap with the washer ends up wherever fate would have it...and I haven't really thought about it as any kind of factor in the Air's usage.

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alltoreup said:

@OF did you ever find a replacement mouthpiece washer? One of mine has up and walked off the job and I was wondering if anyone has come across anything that works as a replacement. They just don't hit the same without it.

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I'm still real happy with the two pieces of tubing I posted about last month:
The Arizer Air

OK, I got that all goofed up and can't figure out how to fix it.......please click on the "The Arizer Air" bit above to see the photo and offer......TIA

BTW, I guess it's about time to close out the offer, not as popular as I thought it might be. IIRC there are like 4 or 5 names on the list. I'll give it until the weekend say if anyone wants to send me a PM and get some tubing to try.

Pappy said:

I predict AAir wil be readily available @ $179 or less this coming year.

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I like the way you think, Pappy.........

SiDankies said:

Does it make a difference without the washer? Do you get more particles in the mouth?

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I think it does. Not so much in the 'more particles' department, I generally have none really, but I preferred it. The restriction might have been part of it, keeping the cap from coming loose was for sure. But 'hot swapping' the two stems (with and without the gasket) convinced me I wanted one. Also on the list of things to try is the Teflon valve packing, but the tube is, I think better (and I couldn't find the valve packing anyway.....).

Others, like Sinclue (who's usually rational....sometimes....), don't find a difference. I suggest you take it out and decide for yourself? There's an argument in favor of changing the hole size as well I think?

OF

alltoreup said:

@OF did you ever find a replacement mouthpiece washer? One of mine has up and walked off the job and I was wondering if anyone has come across anything that works as a replacement. They just don't hit the same without it.

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I took mine out of one of my stems and just cut a small piece of screen and fit it in there and its been working great , i may even be getting a drop better airflow but it def works just as well , give it a try .