The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

Mike M

Mike M

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Ok, just got, charging now (although it seems like it comes charged).

What temp should I start at? Other vapes I use have buttons, like FF, or 3 heat settings (like Alfa) but I don't know the actual temps.

According to the thread, it seems like most start at 375 degrees and go up from there. Anybody say otherwise?
 
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Henry81

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Lwien you are comparing the mighty to the ascent. The ascent is a conductor that has a small amount of convection in it due to your breath passing over the hot glass bowl under the grill. Mostly conduction.

The mighty is a convection style that uses a slight bit of conduction. Almost like it very slowly helps store the vapor in the cooling chamber for that huge hit. Kind of like the decarb kit for the MV.

The mighty is a awesome vape. It is capable of meeting the needs of any style vapist IMO. It is what you make it. But please remember this is just the opinion of someone that does use the mighty.
 
lwien

lwien

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Henry81 said:
Lwien you are comparing the mighty to the ascent. The ascent is a conductor that has a small amount of convection in it due to your breath passing over the hot glass bowl under the grill. Mostly conduction.

The mighty is a convection style that uses a slight bit of conduction. Almost like it very slowly helps store the vapor in the cooling chamber for that huge hit. Kind of like the decarb kit for the MV.
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Regarding the different conduction/convection ratios between the Ascent and the S&B portables, are you sure about what you just stated. With my Ascent, I noticed vapor leaking out the bottom a bit when I wasn't hitting it and I've heard that with the S&B vapes, with the cooling chambers removed, one can still see wisps of vapor being released under the right lighting conditions.
 
scottg402

scottg402

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lwien said:
Regarding the different conduction/convection ratios between the Ascent and the S&B portables, are you sure about what you just stated. With my Ascent, I noticed vapor leaking out the bottom a bit when I wasn't hitting it and I've heard that with the S&B vapes, with the cooling chambers removed, one can still see wisps of vapor being released under the right lighting conditions.
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I'm pretty sure the Crafty and Mighty work the same way. With my Crafty you will get vapor coming out of the mouthpiece (coming through the cooling unit) if you have it running and let it sit idle long enough. This leads me to believe there is a little more conduction going on then what you might think.
 
Mister G

Mister G

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scottg402 said:
I'm pretty sure the Crafty and Mighty work the same way. With my Crafty you will get vapor coming out of the mouthpiece (coming through the cooling unit) if you have it running and let it sit idle long enough. This leads me to believe there is a little more conduction going on then what you might think.
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For some, the extra touch of conduction could be a good thing and something that adds to the device's vape signature and specific medication effect over more purely convection heating. So it has it's positive side. :evil:
 
NickDlow

NickDlow

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Yes but a majority of the vapor is being produced via convection.

Here's a little quote from an email I exchanged a while ago.
"The conduction comes from contact of the filling chamber to the heat exchanger (that is needed to heat up the air). The conduction has a very minor influence on the functionality during vaporization.

The main concept is the convection which assures a steady hot air stream to vaporize efficiently."
 
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Henry81

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lwien said:
Regarding the different conduction/convection ratios between the Ascent and the S&B portables, are you sure about what you just stated. With my Ascent, I noticed vapor leaking out the bottom a bit when I wasn't hitting it and I've heard that with the S&B vapes, with the cooling chambers removed, one can still see wisps of vapor being released under the right lighting conditions.
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Yes. I own a ascent as well. If you hold it 12-6 it won't leak out of the bottom by the way. The mighty uses mostly convection. I'm no scientist, but along with the other convection vapes I own, including the elevape your interested in, the mighty finishes a load as or more evenly than any of them. With zero stirring might I add. So undoubtedly the conduction aspect isn't too great to overwhelm the convection aspect.

However you will see a leakage of vapor coming from the mouthpiece even. It's apparent there are definite conduction used, but the cooling chamber does a good job of catching the leakage.

Apologies for derailing this wonderful community. Happy New Years
 
lwien

lwien

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Mister G said:
For some, the extra touch of conduction could be a good thing and something that adds to the device's vape signature and specific medication effect over more purely convection heating. So it has it's positive side. :evil:
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Oh, I can definitely see the positive side. It's just that for me, bud conservation is paramount being that I'm living on a fixed income so any on-going conduction that is going on that could cause leakage, no matter how minor, is of importance to me, but I also realize that for others, it's a minor issue not worth worrying about and that the benefits far outweigh any loss that may occur.

Eight years ago, this would have been a non-issue for me and I too would be the proud owner of a Mighty.
 
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Henry81

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lwien said:
Oh, I can definitely see the positive side. It's just that for me, bud conservation is paramount being that I'm living on a fixed income so any on-going conduction that is going on that could cause leakage, no matter how minor, is of importance to me, but I also realize that for others, it's a minor issue not worth worrying about and that the benefits for outweigh any loss that may occur.

Eight years ago, this would have been a non issue for me and I too would be the proud owner of a Mighty.
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So if you had the money, you wouldn't be posting about all you think is negative with this device?

I can't afford a Bugatti , but that don't mean I bash it because of my experience with the cars I have. Especially in a thread for it.
 
Mike M

Mike M

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Ok, so I've had a few hours with my mighty and I have a few comments.

First, a few negatives. Based on the bowl size as well as the power of this thing the Mighty certainly goes through herb pretty quickly. Second, it's a lot larger than what most would consider portable. For myself this type of portability was what I was looking for but if you're interested in a low profile device this isn't the unit for you. Lastly, the auto timer was a bit annoying at first but once you start using the Mighty the negatives quickly dissipate.

As far as the positive side I have plenty to say. Although the unit is bigger than most ports this thing is by far the first actual desktop replacement I've ever seen. Once I learned my temperature marks (a bit lower than on my desktop) I immediately realized that the Mighty was producing vapor better than some stationaries.

The build quality is hefty, feels well made, screen is bright and easy to read. Feels a bit like an oversized heavy duty Iolite. The units is also well insulated with what I assume is great ventilation as my unit stayed cool to touch.

The UI is simple and to the point. Temp up, temp down, on and off. The battery is insane! This thing has been through 4 sessions with me and I haven't lost a bar of battery life yet.

The air path is also wide open. Brilliant pull with zero resistance. I was also concerned about taste being a factor when I saw metals and plastics in the construction but I assure you, I was mistaken.

As far as I am concerned, thank you @t-dub!

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Question about efficiency. I have seen on web reviews that the Mighty is not very efficient, because it tends to vaporize the herb more quickly than you can use it (have also seen pots regarding vape leakage/coming out of the unit that might attest to this).

Is anyone else finding this? I just bought the unit, but haven't gotten home to use it yet.

Slightly worried about this, was hoping like the Firefly, the convection would make it more efficient, and save me some money.

If you put in smaller amounts, do you have to lock it in with the concentrate pad? Or can just half or 1/3 fill the bowl without it?
 
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lwien

lwien

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Henry81 said:
So if you had the money, you wouldn't be posting about all you think is negative with this device?

I can't afford a Bugatti , but that don't mean I bash it because of my experience with the cars I have. Especially in a thread for it.
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Oh God.................give it a rest. The ONLY reason that I began posting this issue was to respond to Mike M's post below.

Mike M said:
I am so torn here. I have the Alfa (great portable) and have the Firefly (great convection), but really want this. I would appreciate it if someone could talk me out of this :\
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So......to answer his question, I gave him my perspective and then some conversation about that perspective followed.

Secondly, I am NOT bashing the Mighty. If you read my posts on this, THAT should be obviously clear.

I would NEVER go into a vaporizer specific thread to intentionally bash it. That is NOT what I'm about.

I'll say it again for you. I think the Mighty is a great vaporizer. It's just not great for me at this point in my life. And the ONLY reason why I brought this up in the first place was to give Mike M a different perspective because he asked for that different perspective. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't have offered it, or shouldn't have responded to those that offered more insight?

Edit: And btw, would you say that M, in his most recent post above mine is also bashing your vaporizer of choice because of his concerns and asking questions about those concerns?

It's just a vaporizer man. I'm not talking about your wife. :doh:
 
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mitchgo61

mitchgo61

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Henry81 said:
Yes. I own a ascent as well. If you hold it 12-6 it won't leak out of the bottom by the way. The mighty uses mostly convection. I'm no scientist, but along with the other convection vapes I own, including the elevape your interested in, the mighty finishes a load as or more evenly than any of them. With zero stirring might I add. So undoubtedly the conduction aspect isn't too great to overwhelm the convection aspect.
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This seems pretty strange to me, as experiential observations go. Every convection vape I've owned and used for the past five-plus years has required stirring, and even then, you get uneven browning of the material. In contrast, all the conduction vapes I've used have browned very evenly, often with no involvement on my part. :lol:

Basically, my experience with the differences in convection and conduction are the exact opposite of what you describe. (If I am mis-characterizing what you are saying, apologies in advance.) I'm not saying you are wrong about the Mighty's method of cooking (I have no idea and others are confirming what you are saying)...it's just that "cooking evenly without stirring" isn't proof of convection in my house. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Just my :2c:. Carry on. :)
 
Mike M

Mike M

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lwien said:
Oh God.................give it a rest. The ONLY reason that I began posting this issue was to respond to Mike M's post below.



So......to answer his question, I gave him my perspective and then some conversation about that perspective followed.

Secondly, I am NOT bashing the Mighty. If you read my posts on this, THAT should be obviously clear.

I would NEVER go into a vaporizer specific thread to intentionally bash it. That is NOT what I'm about.

I'll say it again for you. I think the Mighty is a great vaporizer. It's just not great for me at this point in my life. And the ONLY reason why I brought this up in the first place was to give Mike M a different perspective because he asked for that different perspective. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't have offered it, or shouldn't have responded to those that offered more insight?

Fracking fan-boys like you drives me batty............

Edit: And btw, would you say that M, in his most recent post above mine is also bashing your vaporizer of choice because of his concerns and asking questions about those concerns?

It's just a vaporizer man. I'm not talking about your wife. :doh:[/QUOTE
NickDlow said:
Hahahahahaha

read the last 10 posts @Mike M
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Just curious, why the "Hahahahahaha", am I being too anal about this?
 
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Henry81

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lwien said:
For someone that vapes like I do, what you just said is NOT the only downside (see my post above yours).

Some people use vaporizers differently than others so to make a general statement like that without first finding out how a person likes to use their vape is very..................ill advised.

For some, the FF may in fact, be the better choice.
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This is what you started this off with. I simply told someone who was obviously about to purchase one to do so.

It is people like you that clog threads up with this "can't afford"crap. If you can't afford it, then go cry to someone who cares.

As for the name calling it's appreciated. As I will, for moderator reasons,not say my thoughts on you, and your wife.
 
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NickDlow

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No no I wasn't laughing at u I was just laughing in general cuz these guys have been going back n forth about this exact topic. I just going it funny sorry
 
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Mike M

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NickDlow said:
No no I wasn't laughing at u I was just laughing in general cuz these guys have been going back n forth about this exact topic. I just going it funny sorry
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Thanks, still new to the site, and was hoping I wasn't wasting anyone's time with my endless questions.

As for the argument going back and forth, I do think the price of the product, and whether that price is exorbitant, or better spent somewhere else, is a fitting question when looking into a product.

My question were not meant to bash, I mean I just bought it an hour ago, just trying to get the best usage out of it.
 
NickDlow

NickDlow

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Honestly I think it's fool proof. If u don't want to vape a big oven, just use a little bit of herb then the oil pad. Or pack it full and don't use it all nd u could always start back up when ur ready. I think it's worth the price honestly. But everyone has their own opinion.
 
mvapes

mvapes

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There's a big difference between efficiency and wastful.

Because of the design in and it's power it will cook through your load. But, if you use it correctly it can be much more efficient than other devices of similar nature.

For example, when I use the unit I don't tend to spend much time between hits therefore I'm avoiding the device cooking my load while on hold. This is something that has riddles portable units for years. We brought up the ascent, that's a perfect example. That unit doesn't have a cut off timer like the mighty. This led to us putting the unit down between hits, taking too long at times to draw some of the heat out of the chamber essentially spending your load before you get to enjoy it.

This unit, because of its timer (albeit a bit annoying) enforces that you never leave your vape unattended. If your constantly holding it, your constantly pulling. What I've personally experienced is when full, starting at about 345° and working my way up to about 410° I get about 6 to 8 solid fucking hits.

Comparatively speaking towards other portable units the hits delivered from the mighty are on a different level. Take this from someone who's been a vaporist for over 5 years. The hits you get from the Mighty are more like desktop draws. So, what I'm trying to say is that yes it will blow through a load quickly but to answer @lwien it definitely extracts everything from the plant.

All in all it is efficient if used right. If used incorrectly than she's gonna burn through some herb. But keep in mind, for that to happen someone has to actually hold it in their hands to keep it from automatically shutting off without taking a hit.

Sounds a bit silly when put that way. We don't need to argue, we just need to help eachother figure out the best way using this thing.
 
Mike M

Mike M

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mvapes said:
There's a big difference between efficiency and wastful.

Because of the design in and it's power it will cook through your load. But, if you use it correctly it can be much more efficient than other devices of similar nature.

For example, when I use the unit I don't tend to spend much time between hits therefore I'm avoiding the device cooking my load while on hold. This is something that has riddles portable units for years. We brought up the ascent, that's a perfect example. That unit doesn't have a cut off timer like the mighty. This led to us putting the unit down between hits, taking too long at times to draw some of the heat out of the chamber essentially spending your load before you get to enjoy it.

This unit, because of its timer (albeit a bit annoying) enforces that you never leave your vape unattended. If your constantly holding it, your constantly pulling. What I've personally experienced is when full, starting at about 345° and working my way up to about 410° I get about 6 to 8 solid fucking hits.

Comparatively speaking towards other portable units the hits delivered from the mighty are on a different level. Take this from someone who's been a vaporist for over 5 years. The hits you get from the Mighty are more like desktop draws. So, what I'm trying to say is that yes it will blow through a load quickly but to answer @lwien it definitely extracts everything from the plant.

All in all it is efficient if used right. If used incorrectly than she's gonna burn through some herb. But keep in mind, for that to happen someone has to actually hold it in their hands to keep it from automatically shutting off without taking a hit.

Sounds a bit silly when put that way. We don't need to argue, we just need to help eachother figure out the best way using this thing.
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Great post, thanks!
 
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Mike M said:
Question about efficiency. I have seen on web reviews that the Mighty is not very efficient, because it tends to vaporize the herb more quickly than you can use it (have also seen pots regarding vape leakage/coming out of the unit that might attest to this).
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I don't understand this. People are getting confused about what efficiency means. Is the Cloud/Evo not efficient because it vaporizes the material in like two hits? If it does a complete extraction of the material that's loaded then to me that's efficient. Inefficient to me is packing material and wasting 15 hits only to vaporize half of it. If it can thoroughly vape .1g of material in very few hits and the effects are there I wouldn't call that inefficient. Powerful, sure, but not inefficient. Also about the vapor leakage thing, I think maybe it's an issue with how it's built. There's no carb action on it, so when you stop the hit vapor will be stuck in the cooling unit section, which would contribute to the leaking after hits (but not the leaking before any hits are taken).
 
MGG

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I think this issue has been overexagorated guys, the mighty is one of the most powerful, efficient, tasty, cordless vapes on the market. Any vapor loss is very very minimal, just take a hit, turn it off, take another hit whilst its off, enjoy =]
 
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