FlowerMate Vapormax V/V5.0/V5.0S/V5 Pro

sokesleezy

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@sokesleezy : Empty burn-ins are a matter of taste, as Smiss claim all materials used are safe, so that would include the polymide around the bowl (after all it's used in the InhXXX series from Pharmacor and they claim it's safe too) as this is the one having that "scotch tape" smell.

Some people are sensitive to off-smells more than others, hence the need for a variable amount of burn-ins. In all cases, ventilation is the key, air must be moving to remove the molecules and off-gassed compounds. Use a fan or blow into the mouthpiece at your discretion (but obviously don't suck on it!) and yes it's basically just what you said.


Really appreciate you breaking that down. Interesting enough I did some burn-in/off earlier till the vapormax got too hot to hold and never got that tape smell.
 
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Slow Draw McGraw

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Hold the unit more towards the bottom. Mine has never been hot enough where I cannot hold it. Regarding smell, some people are more sensitive than others. Ive burned mine in where I personally cannot smell it, but a friend says he smells it. This was before I even got the sesh started and briefed him on possible odors.​
 

Teedub

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Follow up on the davinci oil can, I drilled out 6 more holes around the original one hole and I also filed another groove through the base to let the air flow easier through the can as apposed to around it.

The cans have a pretty good diameter fit in the fm oven but there is a minor gap around the can so this mod has made the air resistance much less through the can resulting in more hot air through the can and contacting the oil.
There is an added conduction effect as the oil soaks out and hits the hot walls of the can.

Resulted in a great improvement over stock can, once the ss wool was primed and the fm was heatsoaked I was getting enjoyable clouds, decent in density and size. Not a monster hit but a very nice sipping experience.

Glass mouth piece does get hot.
Had it on Max temp.
Silicone cap not used.
Holes drilled were the same size as the original hole.

Stock cans for refrence:
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ThatHighGuy

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I really do wish I had more access to oils where I'm at. I did just dab for the first time last night and I was sky high. I have put my flowermate through her paces in the last couple days. I ran out of herb and a buddy came over with some tobacco. We put that in there and the taste was amazing. Plus I got the body buzz of nicotine if you don't smoke a lot. After two loads of that the ceramic bowl was still as clean as new. Lastnight I got some wax and a little bit of herbs. After putting the wax into a weed sandwich I loaded it into the fm and it worked wonders! 3 hits and I was blown. I'm not sure if it was just the herb or not but I'm going to smoke the avb after just in case. Im still very impressed with this vape. I have one issue though. I have saw the answer somewhere on here but didn't completely make sense of it. My top slider door is pretty loose, not sure how to fix it. Was hoping someone could clear it up for me. Peace :myday:
 
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Bebop

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How bad is it to charge the fm overnight? I accidentally did it one, not sure if it decreased any battery life , is there a safety for over charge inside the fm?
 
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Slow Draw McGraw

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How bad is it to charge the fm overnight? I accidentally did it one, not sure if it decreased any battery life , is there a safety for over charge inside the fm?
I did It twice. Seems to be giving me the same amount of usuage. I didn't notice/hear of any overcharge safety for the FM.

mod note: Fixed broken QUOTE tag
 
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KeroZen

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Hey don't sweat it too much, people leave their phones charging overnight all the time! What I said are valid recommendations but it doesn't need to change your life into slavery! :)

Just try to apply the best practices as much as possible, but in all cases those batteries are only worth a fixed amount of cycles and they will deteriorate whatever we do.
 
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Pipes

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Hey guy's. I started reading up on this thread a couple months back and took the plunge.
Paid around $60 shipped from DHGate for the 5.0 single temp unit. Happy to say it has all the mentioned updates mentioned here that the 5.0s version has with exception of the 3 temps. LED is concealed, ect.
Been playing with it for a couple weeks and have no problem only having a single temperature. Roasts fine as fair as I'm concerned.
The new product smell was terrible as mentioned many times. It took mine a good 10 sessions for it to clear up. Mine reminded me of a new car smell. Fresh glue whatever.
Once gone it was such a relief. (It was pretty bad.)

The likes:

-Price.....BIGGIE if your a cheapo like me.
-Heat up time, 20 seconds to green. Another 10 for some heat saturation, and good to go.
-Size is not bad at all. Makes for a very discrete unit that mimics an ECig.
-Battery life is good. Have not run completely out as yet. Have done 5 or 6 time outs without any problem.
-ABV is a very uniform brown with no black

The Not So Much:

-Initial taste is terrible as mentioned many times.
-Clouds are minimal. At least for me... Get more second session in.
-Holds away too much to get a satisfactory cloud producing session.
-Unit gets quite warm when doing over 2 sessions in a roll. But manageable.

Overall opinion is that this is a great vape for the money. I would not have as a primary unit but very good for back up or rotation.

OK, now the fun stuff.

Let's make this pup do our bidding the way we want it...:whip:

Holds too much....hmm, need to have the stem go further down the bowl, so first thing is to find a substitute stem. I like avoiding screwing up the OEM stuff. And you loose reference to if actually improving or not...:science:

What I found that the screw thread is 701 thread used in the ECig world. Used with the Bulli vaporizer as an accessory. Found here but can find other types elsewhere.
I figured the best way to go for a tip is a standard 510 tip. I have one of these glass ones on order but any will do.
From there what I did was use a SS concave screen like this type, a small stainless steel bolt and one of the spare screens that came with it.
Also, I used the mid section of a Bulli vaporizer to hold a little cotton to add some additional filtering. Could also add a couple drops of water to further cool down the vapor....? Never tried. This part is not a show stopper for folks as the 701 will also thread directly into the FV.

Note that this can be done to the OEM stem as well. Just use the center hole to screw the bolt into. Basically extending the screen down as far as you like.

I think the pictures will speak for themselves.

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Does it work.....
Yes sir. so far it seems promising. Have only used 3 times but the clouds do exist on the second draw. Can finish the herb in one session.

More testing needed but sure seems like a definite improvement for the way I envisioned it working....:freak:

Caution:
If thinking of modifying the vapor path please be aware of the material being introduced into the heat. Using stainless steel is a safe way to go. Many metals will off gas under these temperatures and this is not a good thing.:rip:

Have fun,
Pipes
 
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sokesleezy

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Love seeing stuff like this. Do you know of any tips/mouth pieces that are a direct fit? I want something with a looser draw.
 
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Pipes

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Love seeing stuff like this. Do you know of any tips/mouth pieces that are a direct fit? I want something with a looser draw.
Anything you can find in 701 drip tips or adapters to 510 tips.
I'd go for an adapter as a one piece steel would get too hot. Many options with 510 tips.
Regardless, having a spot to affix the bolt to is the bigger challenge.
Remember now, the OEM stem has the middle hole, which can be bored to fit the bolt and the others can be made bigger for airflow. The screen at the end pushes the herb and doesn't seem to get past it.
EDIT: Again
So all one really needs is a stainless steel M1.6 bolt about 10 +mm long. Just measured the one I used and it's M1.8 so 1.6 might not have to drill. I did find these M1.6 X 15mm and seller claims stainless steel. I would confirm before ordering.
A couple small nuts would be nice and still looking myself. Currently the screen is held at the end by threading only. Finding if a little tilt lets you agitate your load by turning. Doesn't seem to need though. Diffinity fworking out very micelyy...
 
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KeroZen

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Holds too much....hmm, need to have the stem go further down the bowl, so first thing is to find a substitute stem.

Just tamp the load (using for instance the provided tool) to make a flat puck and you won't have to fill the bowl fully. As a side effect you will also get denser vapor and you will get less flying debris in the straw.

It's tried and proved! I was surprised to read that you weren't getting proper clouds, as all three FM5 I've had in my hands performed pretty good.
 

sokesleezy

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Haven't had the opportunity to vape with my 5.0s yet. But I noticed that tape smell if I turn it on and inhale with the chamber empty. Its really noticeable, but wasn't when I was blowing into the mouthpiece.
 
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Slow Draw McGraw

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Haven't had the opportunity to vape with my 5.0s yet. But I noticed that tape smell if I turn it on and inhale with the chamber empty. Its really noticeable, but wasn't when I was blowing into the mouthpiece.
The taste/smell does subside after some uses. Ive use mine at least 30 times and it is gone.
 
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sokesleezy

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Would it be feasible to make a 14.4 male glass adapter that screws in place of the mouthpiece?


The taste/smell does subside after some uses. Ive use mine at least 30 times and it is gone.

Yea mine went away after a similar amount of "uses"
 
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Mr H

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Hi

Anyone had this problem?

I have the green light on the bottom saying it's fully charged but when I go to power it up I get the red flashing light to say it's out of charge.

I've only had this unit 4 months could the batteries have died on me already?
 
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capcoho

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Hi

Anyone had this problem?

I have the green light on the bottom saying it's fully charged but when I go to power it up I get the red flashing light to say it's out of charge.

I've only had this unit 4 months could the batteries have died on me already?

I had the same thing happen to me after continuously using it and charging it one day with a car charger. I disassembled it and disconnected/reconnected the batteries and still the same thing. When I try to charge the batteries in an 18650 charger one is good and the other one only charges to about 1/2 way. So unfortunately, yes, I think your unit is pooched unless you can take it apart and change the batteries which is certainly not impossible but not easy either.

On the other hand I have a unit which I tried to "steamclean." While the unit was hot I inserted a rolled up wet papertowel about 5 times and watched the steam come out of the Flowermate's orifices. The charging light on the bottom doesn't display anymore but the vape works better and in fact heats to a higher temp now.
 
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Mr H

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The unit seems to charge within seconds sort of indicating what you are saying which is that the battery has died.I don't fancy taking it apart I have fingers like cows tits so I will probably break it and it's still under warranty so I will send it back.

I only use it maybe a couple of hours a night,I wonder if it's anything to do with the new charger I bought for it after the original broke or it's maybe just coincidence (you mentioned using a car charger and then things went wrong which is quite interesting).

Oh well while it's being sent away it will give me time to get rid of the nasty smell that my V8 has.
 
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capcoho

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The unit seems to charge within seconds sort of indicating what you are saying which is that the battery has died.I don't fancy taking it apart I have fingers like cows tits so I will probably break it and it's still under warranty so I will send it back.

I only use it maybe a couple of hours a night,I wonder if it's anything to do with the new charger I bought for it after the original broke or it's maybe just coincidence (you mentioned using a car charger and then things went wrong which is quite interesting).

Oh well while it's being sent away it will give me time to get rid of the nasty smell that my V8 has.

Well the car charger I had was not the same spec as the Flowermate charger. It was just 12v car charger with a wire spliced that fit the Flowermate. Was your charger the same specs or different?
 
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Mr H

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Well the car charger I had was not the same spec as the Flowermate charger. It was just 12v car charger with a wire spliced that fit the Flowermate. Was your charger the same specs or different?

Well I bought it from a uk vape shop online and it was in the flowermate spares section,I can't find my old charger right now to compare but I would assume it was the same specs.

Any one know if a flowermate v5 charger is any different to a v5.0s charger?
 
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Bebop

Way of the Mild
Is this type of failure common? I was thinking the fm would at least last me a year or two with moderate use . Btw , the warranty from smiss is only one month for the battery I think and one year for the unit .
 
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KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
The FM5 and FM5s chargers are the same, but it's 9V not 12V, no wonder you fuxxored your batteries @capcoho... They can take higher amps because the IC has a builtin limitation, but not higher voltages.

@Mr H you are the first to report this kind of failure. If it's one of the cells that is dead like @capcoho hinted, there's not much you can do excepted trying to replace it with the exact same model. We don't know if the vape will lose its calibration when you remove the cell though (it's a problem with other devices)

That being said, I think it was bound to happen. One of the cells is dangerously close to the bowl heater, and we know Li-Ions hate high temperatures when operating... I've evoked it in the past, it's the device Achile's heel.
 

capcoho

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Ya I kinda figured it might hurt my FM but since I have 3 units I figured it wouldn't hurt to try. I usually learn by trials and a lot of errors.

If time permits I may try rebuilding it with just the one good battery and see what happens.:hmm:
 
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