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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Hey everyone, back with an update here! The lady has had the e-nano for about a month now, she hasn't combusted once for an entire week, progress, wooooooo! She had her first real moment of weakness last night, missing the act of smoking and rolling one, but she fought through it. She has mentioned that using the e-nano warms her hands which she loves and tastes spectacular, she NEVER coughs anymore which makes me happy because she's not hacking up her lungs and in pain, and she uses a lot less herb using this vape compared to when she used to roll joints all day. Now the only complaint she's had is it seems to take a long time for her to get there, she will literally sit and vape for about an hour to an hour and a half and it takes a while to hit her, so I think maybe she's doing it wrong so I have come here for some help.

She uses it as such:
Plugs it in and warms it up for about 5-10 minutes on the highest setting then turns it down to 6 and let's it sit for a few minutes. She takes her herb and grinds it then sucks enough to fill the screen and then takes a few hits at that heat and uses the pick to stir, she then hits it again at different heats and works her way up to 9. She has a high tolerance because she's smoked steady every single day for over 5 years now. Now we haven't changed anything with the screen yet to move it closer, she has tried difference inhale lengths and twisting the stem as she pulls, are there any other tips to get her there faster and allow her to really enjoy the experience. Is there a mental aspect to it, maybe letting yourself enjoy it and really taking the time to have fun with it maybe letting you feel better and thus relaxing and letting the herb do it's thing? Any and all tips will be great, should she be putting more herb in then just enough to cover the screen, should she JUST be taking draws until it's brown and no longer pulls vapor at higher heats then putting that in her jar for later use, I do feel like she uses the same bowl, including stirring it, for up to half an hour until it looks like a coffee bean color wise. Could time be a factor too, as in she's only vaped steady for a week, maybe in a few weeks it'll start to hit her differently and to be patient?

Thanks guys, happy holidays!

Hey there, Thrasher. Glad she's getting the hang of it. Plenty of good tips above and have a few more.

First, if she has the patience, do more smaller loads. I also usually find it better to pick a heat and stick with it for a session. If lower temp, save the leftovers and vape at higher temp later. Or, she could go with a higher temp.

Most of this through this thread, but try some of these things. They may not be to everyone's preference, but think they will help get her over the hump of getting the dopey high she is used to from smoking joints.

First, find a favorable temp and stick with it for the session. If she is looking for pain relief, that is probably going to be in the 7 +/- range with a stem (no water piece), but temp settings vary from nano to nano. When going dry I usually stay around 6 on the dial, but I'm looking for a headier buzz and my nano runs a bit warmer than most (I think).

Make sure it is pretty dry and grind it up. The nugs should crumble easily when you lightly grind with fingers. If not that dry, put it on top of cable converter box (on piece of paper or something) or something similarly warm for 1/2 hour or so. Grind doesn't have to be powder, but a little finer instead of coarser will release more actives quicker.

Push the screen up high and use the notch on the e-pic to set at right height. Several posts about this, but in case you haven't seen them - there is a small ledge on one of the "arms" of the e-pic. Set that notch at the top lip of the stem and that "arm" should be screen depth.

Don't overload. Just suck enough up into the stem so that it is close to but not touching the heater. The top of the load shouldn't be more than 2mm away (about the thickness of a nickel).

Put the stem on the nano and let it preheat for about 30 seconds and draw slowly and smoothly. Take 2 hits, then give a stir, then another hit or 2. Then it is done! Or, at least ready for the duff can (more on that below).

Reload and repeat. After 3 or 4 of those loads, things should be feeling a bit better. If she is used to smoking fattys of good stuff, maybe do 7 or 8 loads like this.

One of the downsides of longer sessions like this with a stem (no water) is it can get a bit harsh on the throat. Plenty here in this thread and on FC about vaping through water. It is worth it IMO. Smoother hits aren't as harsh on the throat, and think the moisture allows you to take bigger hits every time.

Save the ABV/duff in an airtight, dark container. Use it for edibles. Many ways to ingest it (I like to make butter or oil to cook with). The beauty of this stuff in her case, is that many of the "heavier" cannibinoids will be in the duff. These give most people a heavier sleepier buzz.

It usually takes people a while to adjust to vaping instead of smoking. The buzz is different, and a person's tolerance can have major affects. After a couple weeks of just vaping, this should work itself out. Well worth it IMO!! Not just for the health benefits, but for quality of buzz and more than anything - efficiency. Think she'll find that her stash will last 2 or 3 times as long as it did. Plus she and the smoking area won't reek so much of weed.

From what you say in your post, it sounds like maybe she has been loading a big load and just working it for an hour or so. Even a bigger load isn't probably going to go more than 10 hits. And, if her duff is coffee brown, sounds like she is taking many hits and not getting too much out of a good bit of them. With smaller loads, reloaded more often, I think she'll see quite an improvement. And, again, the duff is fun to play with for edibles.

Hope this helps! Feel free to hit me up with a message for more details or info on any of this.
 

cloudblower

Well-Known Member
I just got an used e-nano from the classifieds here on FC. I didn't get the e-pic, so I don't know how deeply to set the screen. Can any give me the length of that part of the pick, so I can set my tube up?
 
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My Digital Micrometer is reading 14.25mm!

Really? So you set you screen even closer than 15mm? Wow.

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Does this mean there is a difference among e-pics?
 

ChippyMalone

Be here now.
Accessory Maker
Hey there, Thrasher. Glad she's getting the hang of it. Plenty of good tips above and have a few more.

First, if she has the patience, do more smaller loads. I also usually find it better to pick a heat and stick with it for a session. If lower temp, save the leftovers and vape at higher temp later. Or, she could go with a higher temp.

Most of this through this thread, but try some of these things. They may not be to everyone's preference, but think they will help get her over the hump of getting the dopey high she is used to from smoking joints.

First, find a favorable temp and stick with it for the session. If she is looking for pain relief, that is probably going to be in the 7 +/- range with a stem (no water piece), but temp settings vary from nano to nano. When going dry I usually stay around 6 on the dial, but I'm looking for a headier buzz and my nano runs a bit warmer than most (I think).

Make sure it is pretty dry and grind it up. The nugs should crumble easily when you lightly grind with fingers. If not that dry, put it on top of cable converter box (on piece of paper or something) or something similarly warm for 1/2 hour or so. Grind doesn't have to be powder, but a little finer instead of coarser will release more actives quicker.

Push the screen up high and use the notch on the e-pic to set at right height. Several posts about this, but in case you haven't seen them - there is a small ledge on one of the "arms" of the e-pic. Set that notch at the top lip of the stem and that "arm" should be screen depth.

Don't overload. Just suck enough up into the stem so that it is close to but not touching the heater. The top of the load shouldn't be more than 2mm away (about the thickness of a nickel).

Put the stem on the nano and let it preheat for about 30 seconds and draw slowly and smoothly. Take 2 hits, then give a stir, then another hit or 2. Then it is done! Or, at least ready for the duff can (more on that below).

Reload and repeat. After 3 or 4 of those loads, things should be feeling a bit better. If she is used to smoking fattys of good stuff, maybe do 7 or 8 loads like this.

One of the downsides of longer sessions like this with a stem (no water) is it can get a bit harsh on the throat. Plenty here in this thread and on FC about vaping through water. It is worth it IMO. Smoother hits aren't as harsh on the throat, and think the moisture allows you to take bigger hits every time.

Save the ABV/duff in an airtight, dark container. Use it for edibles. Many ways to ingest it (I like to make butter or oil to cook with). The beauty of this stuff in her case, is that many of the "heavier" cannibinoids will be in the duff. These give most people a heavier sleepier buzz.

It usually takes people a while to adjust to vaping instead of smoking. The buzz is different, and a person's tolerance can have major affects. After a couple weeks of just vaping, this should work itself out. Well worth it IMO!! Not just for the health benefits, but for quality of buzz and more than anything - efficiency. Think she'll find that her stash will last 2 or 3 times as long as it did. Plus she and the smoking area won't reek so much of weed.

From what you say in your post, it sounds like maybe she has been loading a big load and just working it for an hour or so. Even a bigger load isn't probably going to go more than 10 hits. And, if her duff is coffee brown, sounds like she is taking many hits and not getting too much out of a good bit of them. With smaller loads, reloaded more often, I think she'll see quite an improvement. And, again, the duff is fun to play with for edibles.

Hope this helps! Feel free to hit me up with a message for more details or info on any of this.
"Best of" material right there.

Even if it is not THE gospel, it is definitely one possible proven strategy that will lead any new person in the right direction without sending them astray.
 
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vjt324

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guys how long does it usually take for the your wood our nano option.
im getting anxious!!! lol . orderd on dec 4th
 
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OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
guys how long does it usually take for the your wood our nano option.
im getting anxious!!! lol . orderd on dec 4th


As I recall he stated a couple of weeks ago that he was almost out of the heater mechanism and wouldn't be resupplied until Jan. Only way to know if you made it in before he ran out would be to contact him directly.

~
 

Thrasher52

New Member
"Best of" material right there.

Even if it is not THE gospel, it is definitely one possible proven strategy that will lead any new person in the right direction without sending them astray.

Okay it seems to work pretty good last night, she did 3 smaller loads, then a 20 minute break, then 3 more loads, and it hit her pretty good, I think her tolerance will definitely adjust threw the weeks. As far as the load itself with the nano, I set the screen to bring it closer using the pick, she usually sucks in enough per load just to cover the screen, to me it doesn't seem like a lot...when I watched the 2 hit extraction video he packs in WAY MORE lol but that's probably for a reason, I feel like if we're aiming for a 2mm distance between the heater and the bud, that maybe she should be sucking in a LITTLE bit more per load? Am I off here haha. Thanks for the tips guys, this is a TOUGH challenge for her, but you guys help in so many ways and she is enjoying the journey, hasn't coughed much at all, her breathing is WAY WAY WAY better when sleeping, the house doesn't reek, so many benefits, most of all her health! Will update you guys in a few days, take care and happy holidays.
 

snamuh

ghost
I just posted this in the glass thread but I probably should have posted here.

Does anybody use the nano stem as a gong?
I am waiting on the 187 and am thinking that the stem might fit down the 187 and I could place the silicone that comes with the stem about half way down to make a stop/air seal so it doesnt go all the way down to the perc.

Could someone with a gb187 see if it fits through the 18m joint?
 
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vaplen

Well-Known Member
@snamuh it fits in the hole but its not snug at all. you're gonna need some tape or something to make a seal. Good choice on a WP/vape :brow:.

Does anyone else's epic bag look like its falling apart? I can't tell if its the stitching with extra thread or its pulling apart. Seems to be holding up fine though
 

Mulehead

Well-Known Member
I just posted this in the glass thread but I probably should have posted here.

Does anybody use the nano stem as a gong?
I am waiting on the 187 and am thinking that the stem might fit down the 187 and I could place the silicone that comes with the stem about half way down to make a stop/air seal so it doesnt go all the way down to the perc.

Could someone with a gb187 see if it fits through the 18m joint?

I don't have the 187, but do have an 18 mm female joint on my WP, and I used the stock stem as a gong before getting a JoDa carbed gong. My method was exactly as you described, with supplied silicone as seal. IME no air leak at all.
 

snamuh

ghost
I don't have the 187, but do have an 18 mm female joint on my WP, and I used the stock stem as a gong before getting a JoDa carbed gong. My method was exactly as you described, with supplied silicone as seal. IME no air leak at all.
Thanks ! now my only concern is that the fc187 looks like it might some sort of lip right after (below) the joint.
 
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flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Okay it seems to work pretty good last night, she did 3 smaller loads, then a 20 minute break, then 3 more loads, and it hit her pretty good, I think her tolerance will definitely adjust threw the weeks. As far as the load itself with the nano, I set the screen to bring it closer using the pick, she usually sucks in enough per load just to cover the screen, to me it doesn't seem like a lot...when I watched the 2 hit extraction video he packs in WAY MORE lol but that's probably for a reason, I feel like if we're aiming for a 2mm distance between the heater and the bud, that maybe she should be sucking in a LITTLE bit more per load? Am I off here haha. Thanks for the tips guys, this is a TOUGH challenge for her, but you guys help in so many ways and she is enjoying the journey, hasn't coughed much at all, her breathing is WAY WAY WAY better when sleeping, the house doesn't reek, so many benefits, most of all her health! Will update you guys in a few days, take care and happy holidays.

Glad it is working out for her. So glad you watched the 2 hit extraction method video. That is a classic, and should be required viewing for all new nano users. Don't worry about how much he puts in. @Caligula has huge lungs and takes monster rips in his vids. He's also going thru water, which will generally allow for larger hits.

She could load it a little more, but I'd suggest nudging the screen up just a bit and trying that first. Get it very close (2mm/nickel width), but not touching the heater. The best hits are usually those first couple, so this is why I'd say stick with whatever load manageable to finish in 3/4 good hits (with a stir in the middle somewhere), then dump and reload. Duff can vary depending on temps, material and a whole host of other things, but after a load it should be brown (color somewhere between tobacco and ground, but not brewed coffee).

Vape on!!

Thanks ! now my only concern is that the fc187 looks like it might some sort of lip right after (below) the joint.

Still waiting for my FC-187 too, but if like all of the other Chinese glass I have, the GonG tapers from about 19mm down to about 18mm then may get a little narrower at the end of the GonG itself (where the downtube inside starts). Think what you are seeing as a lip is just the glass joint between GonG itself and top of can, and another between GonG and top of downtube.. Don't know how deep you want to push the stem down into there. I guess it would work as long as you stay out of the water. For what it's worth, my stock stem will go all the way to the bottom of the birdcage in my GB-187.

Just out of curiosity, why not get a 19mm GonG adapter for your nano? Should be less than $20 with shipping and get there before your FC-187 from China if you are in US. I know $20 ain't exactly free, but I'd say well worth it if you are going to be going wet. It will fit FC-187 and any other 18/19mm GonG in the world. I'm pretty poor too (especially this time of year!), but think this is a worthwhile investment.
 
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vjt324

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cant waiiiiit!.

still shopping around for an enail...so i cant wait to see how some oil mixed in is going to taste.
 
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*plainlazy*

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Now a e nano owner. and must say it only took 20 mins for me to realise what a fantastic vape this is.
only tried honeycomb stem with a basket gauze as a cup. and tried heat settings 5.5, 6 and 7. and wow. 5.5 is amazing flavour and so smooth and alittle cloud too.
7 was a little harsh I think that might be the limit on the stem for me. and also tried a wong that the seller included. used it with my d020 with a tiny tiny amount at about 7 and got one big smooth hit. so impressed with this thing. and havnt used the adjust stem or adjust gong yet. waiting on two 18mm to 14mm reducer adaptors from dh gate.

so many options to try but so happy with it so far not a whiff of combustion.

I think a new WP and a walnut stand from epic vape and im done for a long time.
 

jivebuggered

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The nano has saved me so much money over the last few months. Its so damn efficient.


Hi, save me reading over 300 pages is the a 230Volt version for Aussie yet or will I need a step down? Does one need to order a adjustable stem as a option? Are they available yet or is it only back order? Is there a discount code for FC members? Thanks
 
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