Custom Glass Ideas/Designs Thread

I would like to point out that people are paying over 100 all day every day for these DHgate pieces in local head shops and on instagram. Go look up #glassforsale and I guarantee you will find an auction for a DHgate piece that is already over a hundred dollars with people out bidding each other.

Apparently this forum and access to cheap glass has made people spoiled and greedy and out of touch with the reality of things plain and simple.

I would be happy to purchase a quality pillar for 100. It would be a steal. Just ask a glass artist about how difficult it would be to do all those seals. Maybe @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd could weigh in on this difficulty of blowing glass

Yeah I actually quite enjoy scoping out china glass that's being flipped. Same goes for many other product categories (again me feeling superior... douchbag.. cough).

If the price tag was $100, I'd probably get it, just saying more people would perhaps not buy it. Have to see what people's feedback is aka how many jump the hypetrain.

blankrider said:

I would like to point out that people are paying over 100 all day every day for these DHgate pieces in local head shops and on instagram. Go look up #glassforsale and I guarantee you will find an auction for a DHgate piece that is already over a hundred dollars with people out bidding each other.

Apparently this forum and access to cheap glass has made people spoiled and greedy and out of touch with the reality of things plain and simple.

I would be happy to purchase a quality pillar for 100. It would be a steal. Just ask a glass artist about how difficult it would be to do all those seals. Maybe @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd could weigh in on this difficulty of blowing glass

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Ha! I know that's right. That's how you know China is full of slave labor. There is no fucking way in hell if I made a peyote pillar (in my dreams) that I would charge 100$. I honestly don't understand how on gods green earth China makes any money. They must pay this poor Chinese blowers pennies a day!

Good thing the bread costs a penny.

blankrider said:

I would like to point out that people are paying over 100 all day every day for these DHgate pieces in local head shops and on instagram. Go look up #glassforsale and I guarantee you will find an auction for a DHgate piece that is already over a hundred dollars with people out bidding each other.

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VJJJV said:

Yeah I actually quite enjoy scoping out china glass that's being flipped. Same goes for many other product categories (again me feeling superior... douchbag.. cough).

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LOL, yea it's kinda funny seeing "RooR" piece in shop windows/display cases, that are most definitely anything but an official RooR product lol.

VaPeD&CoNfUsEd said:

Ha! I know that's right. That's how you know China is full of slave labor. There is no fucking way in hell if I made a peyote pillar (in my dreams) that I would charge 100$. I honestly don't understand how on gods green earth China makes any money. They must pay this poor Chinese blowers pennies a day!

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They make stuff with cheaper quality materials, without having legitimate training, or quaility control/regulations, as well as paying pennies on the dollar to their workers compared to America and European countries. They also skip over the designing process for most of the cheap knockoffs by just blatantly stealing them from legitimate companies and even putting the same logos on them to profit from already existing popularity, which every entrepreneur knows is just as hard to achieve as a good product itself. Many ideas fail after costing a ton of money, not because they suck, but because they never picked up momentum. Once you know something has a solid market, and also, in this case, isn't legally protected in terms of quality, it's not too hard to make cheap copies overseas.

For sure, they aren't putting in the same time and care into these knockoffs as you are with your custom GonG's and such.



Anyway, does anyone have any other suggestions for pieces? Favorite percs, problems with existing pieces, etc.

Yes let's get back to talking 'bout designs! btw. I gladly share my illustrator files if someone wants em

Any suggestions, ideas on the pillar? I think pillar and matrix should make a great combo.

A completely different design: How about glycerine? Is any of that china stuff good there? Anyone really mistrustful of a glycerine bubbler from china?

and then I just saw this

edit: wow Im loving this concept.

Yes @VJJJV I would appreciate you sharing your illustrations as they are much clearer than mine.

I already relayed your peyote pillar illustration to Steven. Thanks again

Well feel free to post flimsy drawings. I can put em into illustrator.

nihil said:

I'd actually feel better looking in the mirror supporting these manufacturers if I knew it was an "open source" design rather than ripping off that one guy with the good design but he decided to charge $800 for the design and $50 for the materials. I get art, and if a piece had artistic potential, sure, I'll pay through the roof if it was my thing. But that shouldn't apply to scientific glass, it's just a beaker in another form after all.

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I think this really sums up a lot of the debate on this thread so far, and I absolutely love the idea of "open source glass." I'm stoked to see how this forum develops and what grows out of it, and will definitely contribute when and where I can.

I'm loving the 186-esque pillar design that everyone's been coming up with, and will totally jump on that as soon as it is finalized/in existence.

VJJJV said:

Another thing I liked to see, ice on top of a pillar. Ignore that weird arm on there.

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I also love the idea of a bubbler that can support ice. I feel like an extra-wide mouthpiece with an ice pinch as someone suggested above would be great, as long as it drains well so that melting ice doesn't bubble up to your mouth. I'm not sure if a separate plug/opening as depicted above would work well, but if there could be something like a secure, extra-wide glass-on-glass stopper to load ice in, it'd be amazing. I'm not sure of the viability of custom-sizing glass connections though... Nonetheless, ice in a bubbler that's comfortable to smoke is a dream of mine.

Also, just wanted to thank @blankrider for getting all this started and making it all possible. You rock.

Erwin said:

I think this really sums up a lot of the debate on this thread so far, and I absolutely love the idea of "open source glass." I'm stoked to see how this forum develops and what grows out of it, and will definitely contribute when and where I can.

I'm loving the 186-esque pillar design that everyone's been coming up with, and will totally jump on that as soon as it is finalized/in existence.

I also love the idea of a bubbler that can support ice. I feel like an extra-wide mouthpiece with an ice pinch as someone suggested above would be great, as long as it drains well so that melting ice doesn't bubble up to your mouth. I'm not sure if a separate plug/opening as depicted above would work well, but if there could be something like a secure, extra-wide glass-on-glass stopper to load ice in, it'd be amazing. I'm not sure of the viability of custom-sizing glass connections though... Nonetheless, ice in a bubbler that's comfortable to smoke is a dream of mine.

Also, just wanted to thank @blankrider for getting all this started and making it all possible. You rock.

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How many people here enjoy ice with their vaporbongs? I was discussing the idea of a bubbler with ice in the mouthpiece to allow for it to cool the vapor as it enters your mouth, but not while it's sitting in the can. To prevent it from sticking to all he walls. It'd also allow hot water to be used. Sounds contradictory, but if you think about it, the vapor would get steamy and thick and then cooled before inhaled. Might be nice. Depends on how many people would be up for something like that. I can work on a design for that soon and post a pic.

VJJJV said:

Alright, here is a little bit more polished version of the top piece. I don't really understand some of the suggestions. Maybe once I'm sober..

So yeah the mouthpiece can't extend out too far or this will prbly not be stable. Otherwise the shape can be modified however I guess.
On the actual pillar there is only 2 tubes, since this is a sidecut. I guess it could be 6 or 8 tubes.
And I think the matrix below the pillar is actually a great idea. Should work well flow and effects.
I put the inline part lower so the pillar chamber doesn't fill too fast with smoke and then you can't see anything. Idk I still would prefer no smoke around the pillar I guess, or maybe water..

Btw. I have no clue how a matrix/bird cage works. If someone has a link that explains or shows it that be neat.

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My on that revision:

Inlet joint:
I prefer having it at the top of the dry chamber, mainly because it allows the volume of that chamber to be used. Plus I think it looks kinda cool to see the dry vapor swirl around in there for a second before it drops down through the matrix perc.

Mouthpiece:
What you've drawn there is a "bent neck" design. (Mouthpiece comes out of the top of the can then bends back)
I'd personally much rather see either a regular sidecar, a bubbler style mouthpiece (basically a bent neck but it comes out of the top of the back of the can, not the back of the top of the can if that makes sense...) or a knockoff of the SG natty splash mouthpiece design (though I notice most natty splash mouthpieces are still vertical, I was thinking more natty splash style mouthpiece, that's at a 45 degree or so angle...).

A matrix perc is basically a high end gridded showerhead, but instead of actually gridding the slits, there are bands inside the perc that break up each slit into smaller holes.

EverythingsHazy said:

I think the fc-186 should be what's in the first pic I posted. It's not a sidecar. Sidecars are weird. They aren't symmetrical. Only really practical if you have the vape sitting on too of the can, which isn't as nice IMO because you don't get to look into the can to see the density of the hit. Not as much as with the vape on the opposite side of the can as the mouthpiece. Also, the gb-186 is more stable than having a vape on too of the can IMO, because the vape and mouthpiece balance each other since they both come out of opposite parts of the can.

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I don't really agree here.

Sidecars give you basically the best view possible of the can...
I don't understand how a vape on top of the can obscures vision when the sidecar gives you a side on view of the can...
The only way I can see a sidecar having an obsecured view is if they put the joint facing the user...

Also, I really only see the stability argument being valid while a vape is perched on top of the piece... And that's when a piece is at its least stable...
Any glass with a vape on it is gonna be a bit unstable (even a nice stable design with a dewaar joint, once you put a vape on that it'll raise the centre of gravity and make it somewhat more prone to tipping.)

Especially with a larger piece like a pillar, unless the mouthpiece is absurdly long and heavy, its not going to be a major factor in how stable the thing is, but having a vape perched on it will be majorly important.

IMO it should be
-attach vape to glass
-take hit
-detach vape from glass

So the main importance imo is to have a piece that is stable when standing on its own.

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How many people here enjoy ice with their vaporbongs? I was discussing the idea of a bubbler with ice in the mouthpiece to allow for it to cool the vapor as it enters your mouth, but not while it's sitting in the can. To prevent it from sticking to all he walls. It'd also allow hot water to be used. Sounds contradictory, but if you think about it, the vapor would get steamy and thick and then cooled before inhaled. Might be nice. Depends on how many people would be up for something like that. I can work on a design for that soon and post a pic.

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that hot water is gona be room temperature after 5 minutes... that's when I finally remember to actually take a hit.
and does ice actually cause more residue on the walls? shouldn't the wetness hinder residue build up? regardless: don't let the smoke sit, just clear it out!
I mean I like the idea of the water heating the smoke and then ice cooling it, but in reality it prbly warms the smoke by 8 degrees in the short time the smoke passes through the water. and then the ice will cool it by maybe 10? Small amount of ice and short exposure time. Furthermore the hot water and ice would warm/cool each other even over some distance.

Unless you have a large ice chamber or a glycerine coil I don't think you will achieve any proper cooling. Finally I wonder if enough ice melt would defeat the pillar effect. So it really comes down to either glycerine cooling or steel/ceramic ice cubes or no pillar.

edit: I mean would people be against glycerine coils or not? Im actually trying to see if I can implement some of these ideas, but I don't think the pillar is gona go well with ice

edit2: this is what I based the ice chamber idea on: http://www.grav.com/product/ash-catchers/
I assume there is fairly large variety of joint sizes and so yeah it would be all glass on glass

Is everyone ready to be amazed at the speed in which the wheels are turning after the success of the 187 which will ship out on Monday or Tuesday.

Also be prepared to laugh

also coming soon

Dude! R u kidding me already?
Are there only 2 tubes in that pillar?

4 tubes I think
here is pictures from both sides

They both look like fun pieces, way to go @blankrider!

blankrider said:

3 tubes I think

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Would love to see 6. The diffusion pump is pretty spot on though.

It is pretty much an exact copy of the mini peyote pillar on aqua lab. Except won't cost $710

I already told him to make it female joint and make the joint straight

Try to get him to do a pillar vid without the cigarette and rip on it pretty good.

Here you go

You coulda gotten that a little faster @blankrider! Lol. Damn man! Johnny on the spot!

Count me in for one. Would still like to see a couple more pillars in there.

Also what kind of perk in the bottom? I would've loved to see this little matrix from the recycler you turned me into in there.

I think instead of more pillars a different full size version would be the way to go. Then there would be both options. The full size could have a matrix perc and like 8 arms and stand 14 inches tall

Or that! Lol

@Monsoon on what changes do you propose for the diffusion pump to help with the splash in the neck?

I thought it might have something to do with the water level in the piece. I'm at a disadvantage on this one because I have not used an actual diffusion pump

I'm loving this! Its like we've got access to the Cheat Codes for Glass!!!