Curious Kief : magic sand

I usually pick up a gram of Kief every couple weeks. Normally, it is either powdery or sticks together in solid clumps. But This Sour G rolls around like that magic sand stuff that the kids play with. I thought it was curious enough to share.

Under the scope, it looks really nice with very little green material mixed into intact trichomes.

Chippy,

I'm curious as to what you do with your kief.

I have a couple of grams myself and would like to use it in some brownies or cookies but I have never been able to find a definitive recipe on how much kief I should use when making canna-butter. There's plenty of recipes for using leaf trim / raw cannabis, but nothing about using kief, at least not that I've been able to find.

I use the Kief to increase the amount of THC in my high CBD flowers. Mostly, it's the cheapest form of THC and the only concentrate I can buy that has not been chemically processed in any way.

I really hate the grassy taste of most edibles, but that would be completely eliminated with the Kief. My seat of the pants conversion says Kief is at least two if not three times more potent by weight than flowers. You would be pretty much guaranteed potent edibles if you used half as much Kief as you would flowers in a recipe

Thanks, Chippy. What I'm looking for is something along the lines of "this many grams" of kief to one stick of butter. I've read on the web that I can use anywhere from one gram per stick of butter to as much as four grams per stick of butter, but I don't want to go on hearsay and end up wasting my kief if I don't get the ratios correct.

The thing I am most jealous of is that you guys having the ability to buy kief!

herbivore21 said:

The thing I am most jealous of is that you guys having the ability to buy kief!

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Yeah, what's up with that?

Kinda curious about the commercial production process.

How much does the stuff go for Chippy? If you don't mind me asking.

The Kief costs about twice as much per gram as medical flowers. $20/gram for the better stuff which I think is a great bargain for THC.

Growers end up with trimmed sugar leaves that have lot of THC but are removed because they burn harshly (not an issue for vaping really). They put them on screens or in a motorized spinning drum with a screen to separate the looss crystals from the green matter. Then they make edibles with whatever is left over. This is also why I avoid in house dispensary edibles made by well meaning hippie girlfriends. God knows what the material has been through before it turns into rice Krispy treats?

Yep, I can frequently find kief for $20/g here in BC. Nice way to "supercharge" your vape bowl

hd_rider said:

Thanks, Chippy. What I'm looking for is something along the lines of "this many grams" of kief to one stick of butter. I've read on the web that I can use anywhere from one gram per stick of butter to as much as four grams per stick of butter, but I don't want to go on hearsay and end up wasting my kief if I don't get the ratios correct.

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It doesn't matter how many grams of kief you use per stick of butter... it matters how many grams of kief you eat. Figure out how much butter the recipe calls for and do the math.

ChippyMalone said:

The Kief costs about twice as much per gram as medical flowers. $20/gram for the better stuff which I think is a great bargain for THC.

Growers end up with trimmed sugar leaves that have lot of THC but are removed because they burn harshly (not an issue for vaping really). They put them on screens or in a motorized spinning drum with a screen to separate the looss crystals from the green matter. Then they make edibles with whatever is left over. This is also why I avoid in house dispensary edibles made by well meaning hippie girlfriends. God knows what the material has been through before it turns into rice Krispy treats?

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Yeah, I'm just suprised that with waxes being as popular as they are, that producers would be throwing everything into producing that. I supose in large production, there's probaby lots of kief incidentally made in trimming room, etc.

$20 seems pretty reasonable.

Well, I'm in Washington state, and although wax is huge, I think the medical community I am around is much more focused on the purity of raw flowers. I go to the somewhat rare medical dispensaries that send all their products out for testing regularly. Of the possibly 100 dispensaries in my local area, there are exactly three I will even enter. W hen I can choose from 20 strains tested at 20-25% THC and actually inspect the buds as well as the test results, there's little need to bother concentrating it.

But with wax, there's no way to know what , the source material looked like, and now that people have discovered you can add things like limonene to make your low grade wax smell amazing and look pretty good, I'm extra hesitant. A grower can so easily cover up an embarrassing crop failure by blasting wax. I don't know exactly what butane extracts from spider mites, but I don't want to know either.

Although I do keep a little wax around, I'm never going to dab again. That lasted exactly one night and now I'm stuck with oil rigs and such I will never use.

That's why I get my 20%-25% THC buds n safley make my own concentrates with food safe materials i.e everclear I had the same concerns buying concentrates especially not buying from a dispensary

NickDlow said:

That's why I get my 20%-25% THC buds n safley make my own concentrates with food safe materials i.e everclear I had the same concerns buying concentrates especially not buying from a dispensary

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if i had access to straight kief i would be using everclear to "run" it and filter it really well. should make for some AMAZING shatter.

in fact i have been considering a dry ice kief extraction followed by a qwet run. if i could skip the first step by buying the kief that would be optimal in my situation.

I'm saving my kief for the same situation!! I believe you can let it sit in the EC for a while it's doesn't have to be a 'quick' wash because there is little to no plant matter in there or should be at least. So I've been told.

2clicker said:

in fact i have been considering a dry ice kief extraction followed by a qwet run. if i could skip the first step by buying the kief that would be optimal in my situation.

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Me too.
I much prefer ethanol over any other solvent but in my country it's extremely expensive.
So, I plan to do a dry ice sift (which I've done before) but then following that with a qwet run.
I figure, this way, the amount of product I can get-to the amount of solvent needed is quite a bit higher than with flowers.

In the plans when materials allow.

Like you, sure wish I could buy it!!

NickDlow said:

I'm saving my kief for the same situation!! I believe you can let it sit in the EC for a while it's doesn't have to be a 'quick' wash because there is little to no plant matter in there or should be at least. So I've been told.

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yeah the wash time should be considerably longer, but i have no idea if there is such thing as too long. an email to greywolf may be order...?

canj00digit? said:

Me too.
I much prefer ethanol over any other solvent but in my country it's extremely expensive.
So, I plan to do a dry ice sift (which I've done before) but then following that with a qwet run.
I figure, this way, the amount of product I can get-to the amount of solvent needed is quite a bit higher than with flowers.

In the plans when materials allow.

Like you, sure wish I could buy it!!

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i wanted to use kief to reduce the amount of ethanol needed for a wash. not because its expensive, but because its a safer evap.