Moisture Content

I have noticed a big difference during Vaping as now all is clear on exhale rather than the white cloud in the beginning.
I equate this change with the dryness and was wondering what do others do to maintain moisture content?
Or is moisture content a concern for you?
What is the best for Vaping?
Thanks,

moehunter said:

I have noticed a big difference during Vaping as now all is clear on exhale rather than the white cloud in the beginning.
I equate this change with the dryness and was wondering what do others do to maintain moisture content?
Or is moisture content a concern for you?
What is the best for Vaping?
Thanks,

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Apparently "3rd party testing has determined the ideal storage humidity at 59-63% RH." Boveda 2-way humidy control packs ensure a proper RH (relative humidity) is maintained. Pop one of these packs in a mason jar or better yet buy CVaults which include a slot for the Boveda packs.

With most vapes I've used the drier the better I think, If you're storing a large quantity for months then you may need the boveda packs but once I've ground my herb and am loading a vape I prefer it drier than I would store it.

Most growers around here(black market only) cure their herb for smoking not vaporizing so letting it air/sundry for at least half a day makes it much better for vaping than when I buy it in my opinion.

I don't know the % of humidity, though I truly doubt most users do.

RUDE BOY said:

With most vapes I've used the drier the better I think, If you're storing a large quantity for months then you may need the boveda packs but once I've ground my herb and am loading a vape I prefer it drier than I would store it.

Most growers around here(black market only) cure their herb for smoking not vaporizing so letting it air/sundry for at least half a day makes it much better for vaping than when I buy it in my opinion.

I don't know the % of humidity, though I truly doubt most users do.

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Yep. I started in on this point, but got lazy and just hit the post button.

Myself, I take out and set aside perhaps a day's worth from my CVault (62% RH). It could stand to be drier still, but the routine works. It grinds and breaks up more readily too.

The difference in draw pressure can be much reduced as can temperature by a few degrees below 200.

With the higher moisture content it took longer to extract but now extremely dry the release is almost immediate, this may not be advantageous to some but for me its optimal for my bedtime use.

I was just concerned I was missing something advantageous to the moisture content but I can see where big puffers or past smokers would miss having the sensation of full lungs or moisture con trail on exhale.

Thanks

moehunter said:

With the higher moisture content it took longer to extract

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i also find this to be true ... plus for me it is not as satisfying a hit when moisture laden, and i have to keep swabbing the inside of the draw tube where the water condenses ... although the glassware becomes sparkly clean, and i do like that - just not as much as a full hit.

If vaporizing is anything like distillation, the energy for evaporation goes into one substance at a time. For example if you boil an alcohol/water solution, the temp will be stuck at the alcohols boiling point until all of it is gone, then increase to the boiling point of water. Since waters boiling point is 100c, I can imagine it would take a lot of the initial heat to vaporize out the water first.

Oooorrrrr I could be taking out of my butt. Can someone with more concrete knowledge chime in?

slick said:

If vaporizing is anything like distillation, the energy for evaporation goes into one substance at a time. For example if you boil an alcohol/water solution, the temp will be stuck at the alcohols boiling point until all of it is gone, then increase to the boiling point of water. Since waters boiling point is 100c, I can imagine it would take a lot of the initial heat to vaporize out the water first.

Oooorrrrr I could be taking out of my butt. Can someone with more concrete knowledge chime in?

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No, I think you're right there @slick . Agree with others here that drier is better once it is time to vape. Try to keep everything fresh and same moisture content as when I get it by sealing in vacuum sealed mason jars (sometimes may even add a little moisture). But, once it is time to vape I like it a bit drier. Don't think you want it so dry that it crumbles when you touch it, but you should be able to easily crumble it in your fingers.

If fresh out of vacuum pack I sometimes put it on a piece of paper on top of the cable box for 1/2 hour or so to dry it out. Within a day it usually dries out fine in one of my "daily" tins. Kind of have to watch it as weather gets cooler and heat is on. If not in sealed container it will dry out a bit too much. But, dry = good IMO! Something I learned when I first started lurking here on FC many, many moons ago and still seems to work great.

Back to OP... don't be fooled by the white cloud. If it is coming from moisture that's probably just water content. I'd say dry your nugs for vaping. More moisture content in your load will make for more of a white cloud hit, but you're taking up heat and lung space (that I don't have much to spare) to vape water/steam that will dilute what you're trying to get out of your vape. In terms I think many are more familiar with... would you take a nice 12oz IPA (beer), put it into a 16oz glass and top with water so you can have full pint? Well.. I guess you kind of get it like that out of the can with Coors Light (and others), but I'd rather stick with a fuller flavored beer and drink my water separately. Same with the vape. Would rather my vapor be as undiluted as possible, and drink the water from a glass.

IMHO We start with whole bud. First hit, there goes 85% of terpines and a smattering of THC.
Second hit is most exposed trichomes and rest of terps. Crush bud with utensil and third hit newly exposed trichomes and stems pieces are now showing. Pick out stem, stir and last hit. All that is left is a dry powder that goes into duff jar for further processing.
It is all about moisture. When drying, curing or using moisture, removal and maintenance followed by consumption is what we do.

TeeJay1952 said:

IMHO We start with whole bud. First hit, there goes 85% of terpines and a smattering of THC.
Second hit is most exposed trichomes and rest of terps. Crush bud with utensil and third hit newly exposed trichomes and stems pieces are now showing. Pick out stem, stir and last hit. All that is left is a dry powder that goes into duff jar for further processing.
It is all about moisture. When drying, curing or using moisture, removal and maintenance followed by consumption is what we do.

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Glad that works for you @TeeJay1952 , but probably not as well for me and I'm sure others. In my setup (usually nano with very small load), not worth the hassle of trying to work with even a very small unground nug. Think grinding is key for best even exposure of actives. Much of this is going depend on your setup, personal preference and your vaping habits. I don't think I'm losing any terpines or THC when grinding (esp with 2 pc grinder), only exposing them for more consistent and flavorful hits from first through third.

My point above is that if you're using moister material and seeing bigger clouds, then less as it dries out, what you're losing is only water vapor. Nothing wrong with water vapor at all, just that the more of it there is in your hit, the less actives there are. Less steam = more active vapor. Just like less water in your beer = more beer in every sip.

Hi All.

I'm a noob too. I have a question : I've learned that the most dry the herb is, the better the vapor will be. Does it means I have to let some of my weed outside of my hermetic box for it to became really dry ? What the point of kiping my weed in an hermetic object then ?

Viskuld said:

Hi All.

I'm a noob too. I have a question : I've learned that the most dry the herb is, the better the vapor will be. Does it means I have to let some of my weed outside of my hermetic box for it to became really dry ? What the point of kiping my weed in an hermetic object then ?

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once cannabis is dried and cured out fully it is then placed in sealed container for long term storage. if not sufficiently dry then pop the top on the container a few times a day to let air in to dry it out, but not over dry.