Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

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lockie

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Loading per session brings out the best flavor in my experience. Flavor is definitely always reduced towards the end tho.

Throwing wax in there and just rippin it is always nice too since I don't have to worry about reloading until I want better taste.
 
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Fredster951

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lockie said:
Loading per session brings out the best flavor in my experience. Flavor is definitely always reduced towards the end tho.

Throwing wax in there and just rippin it is always nice too since I don't have to worry about reloading until I want better taste.
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Yup! This has been the method i use too. Loading per session is best for flavor. IMO the hardest part is making sure you don't vaporize the buffer oil or else you will be loading a lot of oil every session. Once you get the hang of it you notice when you are vaporizing the buffer oil.
 
SamuraiSam

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
Frederick McGuire said:
Or like frying one of the carts made a short which then fried the top?
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I hadn't thought of that, I always picture a cart going "open" instead of short, but anything is possible with way too much power maybe??

Fredster951 said:
Hey @SamuraiSam. You say you toss in half grams into the herc. Is that all at once? Do you find the flavor to reduce towards the end of the load?
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Yeah, that's all at once. When I use the SR-74 in lazy mode with 2 coils there's somewhere around .3-.4 buffer and I do half gram loads just cause it's half the maintenance. It tastes good to me, but perhaps there is a loss of flavor since the oil is getting heated and reheated to a temp above that with which you get terpene loss.. I know I'm in the minority, and that most people like to use 1 coil and load per-session.

DaNi_DuB said:
My v1 was murdered by a kiss cart
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Oh yeah. I think I had a KISS cart screwed in too tightly to my first V1 double-top... poof. (There was nothing wrong with the KISS cart, it worked fine later)
 
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lockie

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Never really tried the 2 coil method. What kind of wax are you using? I'm assuming more oily consistency?

I recall my v2 top getting fried from using a kiss cart. I could've tightened it too much as well..
 
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SamuraiSam

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
lockie said:
Never really tried the 2 coil method. What kind of wax are you using? I'm assuming more oily consistency?
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Literally any butane extraction except like oil/viscous.... everything from "pull & snap" consistency, wax, honeycomb, shatter, and it works fine for me with 2 coils... With the 71 or 74. The SR-74x doesn't work well with 2 coils IMO.
 
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lockie

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I've been mainly only using the 71 but have the 74 white rod. Might try that out when I decide to clean the 71 rod..
 
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k3nd4l

Well-Known Member
SamuraiSam said:
Literally any butane extraction except like oil/viscous.... everything from "pull & snap" consistency, wax, honeycomb, shatter, and it works fine for me with 2 coils... With the 71 or 74. The SR-74x doesn't work well with 2 coils IMO.
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I was just considering using 2 coils when i get my new parts in. i know the 74 is now updated to the 74x which is what i received.. why do you say it doesnt work well w. 2 coils ? whats the difference
 
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SamuraiSam

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
SamuraiSam said:
The chamber lengths are a little different on the -71 to -74, with the 74 having the deepest top chamber and most protruding rod, then the -71, and finally the -74x has very short rod placement. Based just on the intrusion of the rod into the upper chamber, I think the X is really intended for 1 Ti coil, and the 74 could deal with the most coil...
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Andy

Andy

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chronickiller7 said:
I was hitting it multiple times in a row, without much cooling. Also noticed how hot this thing can get! I'm going to vape whats in here and then iso clean the whole thing. Should I put the airflow ring back on?
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Leaving the air flow ring off makes the cooling down process much easier
 
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quader

quader

Well-Known Member
Welp... I am pretty bummed out. I got my Persei + Herc SR-74x on Friday and it worked great.

Yesterday I charged up the batteries, put a fresh load in the Herc and checked it with my meter. After two hitting and cooling cycles I went to take another and I immediately smelled fried electronics. The top blinks 3x with or without a cart attached. I did not over tighten.

I did a ton of research before this purchase and I'm hoping that this is just a fluke and not an indicator of product quality. When the thing worked it was by far the best portable vaping experience I have ever had.

I'll call W9 tomorrow and hopefully they'll take care of me. My top says VX on it if it matters.
 
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DaNi_DuB

DaNi_DuB

Vapor Enthusiast
quader said:
Welp... I am pretty bummed out. I got my Persei + Herc SR-74x on Friday and it worked great.

Yesterday I charged up the batteries, put a fresh load in the Herc and checked it with my meter. After two hitting and cooling cycles I went to take another and I immediately smelled fried electronics. The top blinks 3x with or without a cart attached. I did not over tighten.

I did a ton of research before this purchase and I'm hoping that this is just a fluke and not an indicator of product quality. When the thing worked it was by far the best portable vaping experience I have ever had.

I'll call W9 tomorrow and hopefully they'll take care of me. My top says VX on it if it matters.
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They do blink when they batteries are low as well. It won't produce the burnt electronics smell, but if you are not using AW brand batteries this might be the issue
 
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mixchu69

mixchu69

Well-Known Member
Hello, I just recently got the Persei and the core. Everyone recommends the Hercules. What I would ideally like:
.5 g one time load
Flavor
Efficiency (get the most from waxes and shatter)

I was going to use the EO carts, 2.4 ohm, using 3.7 power from omicron lite. Should I get the Hercules? I want something simple. It seems like there are a lot of problems for first time user.
 
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notoriousLrg

notoriousLrg

sTrange cLouds
I am currently using w9 TI KISS and GLOBE carts with a non-w9 510 battery. I am leaning toward waiting until the persei is available with the v4 top but want to get running with the SR74. Has anyone tried running the SR74 at 3.7v with the black rod on a 510 3.7v battery (actually the RUVaped nano with a 10 second cutoff)?

I know its not optimal and that battery has limited charge capacity, but wondering if it will work as a temporary setup for the Herc.
 
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mixchu69

mixchu69

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I'm a newbie. What are the differences of Persei tops? I just bought mine because of the sale on w9 website.
 
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Silicon Advisor

Silicon Advisor

Kamikaze in a Hopeless World
mixchu69 said:
Hello, I just recently got the Persei and the core. Everyone recommends the Hercules. What I would ideally like:
.5 g one time load
Flavor
Efficiency (get the most from waxes and shatter)

I was going to use the EO carts, 2.4 ohm, using 3.7 power from omicron lite. Should I get the Hercules? I want something simple. It seems like there are a lot of problems for first time user.
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Get the Herc, no doubt. It will do all that you want and more. Just be mentally prepared to endure some trial and error. The good news is that the "errors" are recoverable as reclaim.

To answer your question from a page or 2 back: I use the EO carts (1.5ohm) on my Omicron Lite and the Herc with the Persei. Once I got through the learning curve on the Herc, there was really no reason to use anything else with the Persei.

Good luck and happy shopping!!
 
mixchu69

mixchu69

Well-Known Member
Silicon Advisor said:
Get the Herc, no doubt. It will do all that you want and more. Just be mentally prepared to endure some trial and error. The good news is that the "errors" are recoverable as reclaim.

To answer your question from a page or 2 back: I use the EO carts (1.5ohm) on my Omicron Lite and the Herc with the Persei. Once I got through the learning curve on the Herc, there was really no reason to use anything else with the Persei.

Good luck and happy shopping!!
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Thanks for the insight. I will start trying the EO cartridge on my omicron lite and then upgrade to hercules with my Persei.
 
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quader

quader

Well-Known Member
DaNi_DuB said:
They do blink when they batteries are low as well. It won't produce the burnt electronics smell, but if you are not using AW brand batteries this might be the issue
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Yea I was using the AW brand 18350s that came with my unit. They are definitely charged. The fact that the top stinks like fried circuits tells me it's hosed. :(
 
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DaNi_DuB

DaNi_DuB

Vapor Enthusiast
quader said:
Yea I was using the AW brand 18350s that came with my unit. They are definitely charged. The fact that the top stinks like fried circuits tells me it's hosed. :(
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The persei doesn't come with aw batteries. You have to buy them separately.
 
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mixchu69

mixchu69

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Seeing how easy that the EO cart is to fill and use (filled, primed, and quick session in 10 mins) I will definitely buy the Hercules. So what is the difference between the sr 74 and 74-x? Thanks
 
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Skeena

Skeena

Standing stone faced like a statue.
I have the sr71, and the stock 18350 batteries that came with my persei work fine.
 
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quader

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DaNi_DuB said:
The persei doesn't come with aw batteries. You have to buy them separately.
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Ahh... they say "TZIMR 18350" Would this have caused the top to burn when using the herc? My gut says if anything the cart would burn... not the top itself.
 
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SamuraiSam

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
mixchu69 said:
Hello, I just recently got the Persei and the core. Everyone recommends the Hercules. What I would ideally like:
.5 g one time load
Flavor
Efficiency (get the most from waxes and shatter)

I was going to use the EO carts, 2.4 ohm, using 3.7 power from omicron lite. Should I get the Hercules? I want something simple. It seems like there are a lot of problems for first time user.
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If you are willing to read the instructions, watch a simple youtube video, and use this forum's "search" tool and read a little thread, you will remove 100% of the problems. Unfortunately, there is no magic vape that meets every one of your criteria and is super easy to use. You could probably hop in a Toyota Corolla and just GO- it'd feel a lot more comfortable than if you got behind the wheel of a Ferrari 458 Italia... the Ferrari would take a bit of practice to use, right, but once you learned how to operate it correctly, I bet you could handle it just fine, and you would appreciate the performance that the Ferrari has over the Toyota.

Skeena said:
I have the sr71, and the stock 18350 batteries that came with my persei work fine.
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Do the batteries have a small oval sticker that says "AW"? If they don't, you might think they work fine, but you are missing out on a TON of performance with higher amp discharge batteries.

quader said:
Ahh... they say "TZIMR 18350" Would this have caused the top to burn when using the herc? My gut says if anything the cart would burn... not the top itself.
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Low powered batteries shouldn't cause problems besides low performance... What kills tops, is applying power to a shorted circuit. Shorts are caused by an incorrectly assembled Hercules cartridge, or an improperly rebuilt cartridge, or unfortunately occasionally caused by having the cart screwed too tightly into the Persei top. How tight did you have yours screwed in? I killed one of my V1 single tops by having a perfectly assembled Herc screwed too tightly into it :(
 
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