FLskwat

VAPOLITICS!
lwien said:
qwertypop1 said:
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i would actually advise against getting the BC900 and go with the BC700. it's a little cheaper, really has just about all the same features (more than you'd ever need for this usage. all you need is a good smart charger that discharges as well really), AND the BC900 has been known to overheat and be destroyed. just my $.02. i like your suggestion towards these, but i think the BC7 is just the better way to go for apparent reasons.

Agreed. BC-900 and 9009 have been known to have melt down issues. The BC 700 has been a lot more reliable in this regard. Another good choice and probably even a better one is the MAHA C9000 other than the fact that it's not as user friendly as the BC-700. Both great chargers though. My 700 has been operating flawlessly for about a year now charging Eneloops. But again, if I was going to be constantly charging higher cap batteries like the Powerex 2700, the MAHA C9000 would be a better choice due to it's higher charging rates.

And the firmware of the BC 900 has been updated, solving most of these melting issues (2 x 900 charger around me, severe usage, no problems at all)... So not agreed at all! ;)
 
FLskwat,

B.

War Criminal
Lo said:
Wow...really?? Battery brands are mentioned all over this thread. You might spend more time reading and less time posting until you learn the lay of the land dude...PLEASE??
:lol:

i would love it if someone counted the number of "what batteries/charger should i buy" posts.

...i wonder if i made any, i prolly did, but it was long time ago(before the box got the light).

check the vaporpedia friends, there's a great read on batteries for ya. or just trust me-one pack(4) of powerex 2700's for your main batts, and a pack of immedion 2400's on backup duty, you'll be golden. make sure you get a smart charger. i use the maha c9000, its awesome. or if you mainly use the lb at home and don't have much need for it on the go, skip the extra batts and charger and go straight to the pa. but really, if you're like me you'll NEED all the extra accessories.sometimes i feel like a vape hoarder.




Chloe, i totally agree about the PA being super tight in older models. my original box(pre-light, 10/09 maybe?) and my sister's lb(12/09) both are unusable witht he pa, its super hard to make contact, and getting it out is worse. my current box(5/10?)works perfectly with the pa.
 
B.,

Hery Vappy

Active Member
Wolface said:
This thread needs about 4 sub headings: #1- Box related #2- Charger related #3- Power adapter related #4 Battery related. It's getting too "all over the place" Just a suggestion.

I'm in favor of this. The batteries/charger discussion has truly hijacked this thread.

Modnote: Check the vaporpedia link posted directly above your post. It covers each of the subjects in great detail.
 
Hery Vappy,
Hery Vappy said:
Wolface said:
This thread needs about 4 sub headings: #1- Box related #2- Charger related #3- Power adapter related #4 Battery related. It's getting too "all over the place" Just a suggestion.

I'm in favor of this. The batteries/charger discussion has truly hijacked this thread.

I agree with Hery and Wolface.

I think after reading Vaporpedia and going through the youtube sites, theres very little more to know about the MFLB.
(although I do pick up shit every now and then).

At the moment, I'm just thinking about improving the design and look of the box. Cos it looks like its come from the stone age.

I really hope that doesn't make anyone burst into tears.
It is just an opinion.
No-one has actually had a steak knife firmly inserted up their rectum.
 
Vapemania-original,
I also think it would be desirable to divide this post.

Almost 400 pages, it's been a long read ... especially as there are many things interresting ... but when you want to find information, it is more difficult and very long.

:peace:
 
Franckydiam,

kewpcer

Active Member
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff in this thread that new users (me) don't really know that they're looking for yet, so can't search for it. Maybe some of the more... populous vaporizer threads could be turned into sub-forums.

400 forums pages is just too much to read in linear fashion, for myself at least, to gain the information buried with in. I have a stack of articles to read for my university research as it is, and it grows daily.
 
kewpcer,

Tstat

Dead Foot Designs
Accessory Maker
Skiing. That's why I bought my LB. I finally got try it out last week on a trip to Colorado. It flew just fine in my suitcase with some toiletries. I had also packed a crappy grinder to go with it, and my LaCrosse charger and 4 Powerex batts.

OK, so it is great for skiing because you don't have to "light" it. No worries about wind on a chairlift. Our first day at A-Basin there were 60 MPH winds at the top- no problem for the LB! I also do not like to have people know when you are getting high, so the stealth nature of the product is great. No smelly clouds of smoke, etc.

That said, here is funny story- we are coming down the gondola at Breckenridge to go for lunch. It stops halfway and the doors open so people can load at that station. I had just let my son and his buddy hit the LB. There was a bit of an oder, but of course- no smoke. Smoking is not allowed on the gondola per state law. A lift guy (20's, Asian guy) sticks his head in our car and motions for us to get out. My son's friend says "What?". The guys says "What do you mean what? What's that SMELL?". So we all kind of buy the fact that this guy wants us off for a second, hehe. He then starts laughing his ass off and gives us the "I'm watching you" gesture and tells us he may have to "confiscate" if he catches us again. I tell him it was vapor, no smoke- and aren't we in Breckenridge, Colorado?

We saw him again coming down at the end of the day and he says something to another attendant he was working with and points at us. The other guy comes over and tells a funny story of how an hour ago "an old dude, about 70" was puffing a "cheeba" and had the whole gondola filled with smoke. I told him he must not know about vaporizing. The guy laughed and told us how they love to mess with people getting high on the gondola.

One trench pretty much lasted all day- and so did one battery. I brought extras but never had to break them out. Fun times. My last run at Keystone, I was alone in the gondola and got really vaked on the way up. It was so beautiful and that last run was pure adrenalin.

BTW, Breckenridge is one of the only TOWNS to have legalized marijuana. Colorado is so cool. I wish I lived there.
 
Tstat,

sundaddy

Well-Known Member
All you need to do is click on vaporpedia at the top of the page and go to the Magic Flight Section, all you would ever want to know all conveniently archived.
 
sundaddy,

Hery Vappy

Active Member
So with the rumors of the beta version power adapters haveing the rubber feet and engraved dial settings is there any good reason to still wait to buy one? Hopefully Magic Flight can confirm the rumors?

Thanks
 
Hery Vappy,

willieR

Been here since 2009
Vapemania said:
At the moment, I'm just thinking about improving the design and look of the box. Cos it looks like its come from the stone age.

Looking forward to your engineering improvements :/
 
willieR,
Hery Vappy said:
So with the rumors of the beta version power adapters haveing the rubber feet and engraved dial settings is there any good reason to still wait to buy one? Hopefully Magic Flight can confirm the rumors?

Thanks

I confirm, I just got a PA, it is well with rubber feet, Magic-Flight logo and adjustable on power engraved on it.

Online sales should start soon.
 
Franckydiam,

l33t_tj

Member
Franckydiam said:
Hery Vappy said:
So with the rumors of the beta version power adapters haveing the rubber feet and engraved dial settings is there any good reason to still wait to buy one? Hopefully Magic Flight can confirm the rumors?

Thanks

I confirm, I just got a PA, it is well with rubber feet, Magic-Flight logo and adjustable on power engraved on it.

Online sales should start soon.

Same here, my PA that I got earlier this week also has the feet and engraving.
 
l33t_tj,

clayton

Well-Known Member
Someone should post a pic of the new PA. Also I've lately been trying to get my friend to use the mflb with me and he was complaining about how hot the battery thing on the PA was. I guess I was so used to it that I didn't really notice but is it OK for it to get really hot? I know for a normal battery that is bad but for the PA what's the verdict?
 
clayton,

MM..Food

vape enthusiast
clayton said:
Someone should post a pic of the new PA. Also I've lately been trying to get my friend to use the mflb with me and he was complaining about how hot the battery thing on the PA was. I guess I was so used to it that I didn't really notice but is it OK for it to get really hot? I know for a normal battery that is bad but for the PA what's the verdict?

Here's a picture of the new PA's someone posted a few pages back.



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MM..Food,
another picture of the new PA

newpa.jpg


:peace:
 
Franckydiam,

Elluzion

Vapeosaurus Rex
isn't the price actually supposed to go up?^
I think the 60 price tag isn't bad for what you get, although I think 50 would definitely appeal to me much more than the current 60. ha
 
Elluzion,

zenmasterofzinfandel

Well-Known Member
sundaddy said:
All you need to do is click on vaporpedia at the top of the page and go to the Magic Flight Section, all you would ever want to know all conveniently archived.
...

or you could go the the 1st post in this thread, look at the very end of that post for the link to vaporpedia on the MFLB.

Far be it from 'jacking' the thread, there probably could be a whole subforum just to discuss all of the misinformation/disinformation/sales pitch for the MFLB that is what the vaporpedia section on the MFLB is, imho!

So much of it is just plain playing on the ignorance of FC membership's lack of basic knowledge on electronics and such. We have here on FC, Hippie_Dickie and his 'Cube' (Bud Toaster) who has said he has an EE degree (Electrical Engineering for those who don't know). It should be child's play for him to discredit some of the misinformation contained in the vaporpedia MFLB 'archives'.

Let me come back later when I have time and address the inaccurate, misleading statements on batteries, NIMH etc.

Let me start off by saying you really should keep that old saying "buyer beware" in mind when you read a sales pitch that includes completely unverified and unsubstantiated by scientific and/or independent laboratory testing like this gem:

http://www.vaporpedia.com/wiki/Magic-Flight_Launch_Box
Since the Box uses only and exactly as much heat energy as is needed for vaporization (the Box is easily one of the worlds most energy-efficient vaporizers

^ Vaporware claims :D. "easily" compared to what, and by how much, what measure? yeah, that's what I thought..can't be verified by any standardized means of testing procedure.

Oh no, it's made in California...but it's not only one of the most efficient vaps made in Calif, not only one of the most efficient vaps made in the USA... USA!, USA! USA!, it's not only one of the most efficient vaps made in all of N. American continent (take that you Euros!)...

it is "one of the *world's* most energy-efficient vaporizers" as tested and verified by what recognized testing authority cited??? Yeah, that's wut I thought! It's so great, so efficient that 'the most interesting man in the world has been known to use it' :D

Stay thirsty my friends!

Buyer beware...of massive hype in selling to gullible, ignorant, easy prey client base, just like the BS surrounding LED grow lights.

Not saying it doesn't work, or even work well enough (I don't have one now, but might just be buying one later); just saying don't believe everything you read on the vaporpedia, just like wikipedia is not the most accurate source of information.
 
zenmasterofzinfandel,

kewpcer

Active Member
Jesus the rhetorical mode in this place could use some work.

1. Make unsubstantiated claim.
2. Present circumstantial evidence, or no evidence at all.
3. Demand the accused defend themselves by resolving any and all doubt, regardless of the factual justification (or sanity) of the issue in question.

It's like the Inquisition around here some days.
 
kewpcer,

wthanna

Well-Known Member
I believe most of that vaporpedia info on the Launch Box was written by a forum member here. If you have issues with it, please post your problems. ....of course your comments would carry more weight if you actually owned or have used one... :cool:
 
wthanna,

lwien

Well-Known Member
zenmasterofzinfandel said:
Let me start off by saying you really should keep that old saying "buyer beware" in mind when you read a sales pitch that includes completely unverified and unsubstantiated by scientific and/or independent laboratory testing..........

But that would hold true for just about EVERY product that you purchase, eh? 99.9999999% of ALL products, ANY type of product, put up for sale and marketed by manufacturers make claims that are not substantiated by scientific or independent lab testing. It is this very reason that sites such as this exist, so that potential purchasers can interact with the users of those products, thereby allowing them to make a wise purchasing decision.

While I agree with the overall jest of this post, personally, I don't think that it's appropriate to attack any one manufacturer with this concept, be it Magic Flight or anyone else, because just about everyone does it and therefore if one desires to get by the manufacturers marketing efforts, it's going to take some research.

I'm curious as to why you just didn't post this up in the Lounge Area as a "general" statement on marketing practices rather than singling out a specific manufacturer.
 
lwien,
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