Volteric
Well-Known Member
Wow. Just to clarify when you say chamber you're referring to the underside of the cooling chamber/mouthpiece right?
Do you notice a flavor reduction? I can't tell if I'm making it up or not.
Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel
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Wow. Just to clarify when you say chamber you're referring to the underside of the cooling chamber/mouthpiece right?
Do you notice a flavor reduction? I can't tell if I'm making it up or not.
vapeppau
Well-Known Member
yeah ive been quiet suprised at how little cleaning is needed with the oil pad
Gonzo
Slightly Stoopid
Yes, sorry for the confusion. When I say chamber I meant the cooling unit. I haven't noticed a loss in flavor. I do find though, when the oil pad is becoming saturated with reclaim the flavor of the vapor will start to take on the flavor of the reclaim (Which is actually pretty flavorful IMO. I would guess its because there is no solvent involved
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Volteric
Well-Known Member
Yes, sorry for the confusion. When I say chamber I meant the cooling unit. I haven't noticed a loss in flavor. I do find though, when the oil pad is becoming saturated with reclaim the flavor of the vapor will start to take on the flavor of the reclaim (Which is actually pretty flavorful IMO. I would guess its because there is no solvent involved
Would this be a unique feature in a Vape? Am I having delusions of grandeur thinking this is incredible!!??
I just blew it off clean. Never could do that with the screen.
Sorry for the double post!
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Gonzo
Slightly Stoopid
I wouldn't say it's unique. IMO some vapes just make reclaiming easier than others. I reclaim straight from the wand of the SSV as well and use to with my Solo stem too by scraping with my Skillet Tools Honeybun.
I just think the oil pad on top of the load is an easier way of reclaiming.
Volteric
Well-Known Member
This seems to me the most desireable way for me to reclaim-actually in this case it's already claimed in the oil pad! Yay!
notoriousLrg
sTrange cLouds
How does the Crafty work with straight c02 oil? It would seem not to get hot enough at 410F but I've seen some reviews that indicate otherwise.
Krizzle
Hi Very high
@Volteric sorry for late reply dude, yeah your picture you posted is exactly what I have done. I should try a dry run with the other oil pad as that's never been used, but its looking like the vapor is being reduced due to the build up in the cooling unit? I have only cleaned inside mine maybe once or twice since getting it, guessing mine will be very glazed!
Volteric
Well-Known Member
No worries. Let us know what you find. I'm hoping the oil pad radically reduced your glaze and is being claimed in the oil pad. What made you decide to put the oil pad as the top screen anyway?
Earlier reports were that it handled concentrates very very well. I'd like an update on how well.
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I have been using the oil pad for BHO and it does a surprisingly good job. I was worried about clean up but that has been no problem by removing the liquid pad while hot and wiping out the chamber with a paper towel. Normally with low temp oil use I would get a few flavorful hits followed by many hits of awful taste, the Mighty/Crafty hits many more flavorful hits and the end hits are still tasty enough to finish it off.
I am still working out the best cleaning of the oil pad. Burn off with a tourch had negative results by expanding the pad and it seemed to make it more brittle or less flexible. I am trying just an alcohol bath on the next pad to see how that removes any residue.
Edit: just did a clean up after many dabs on the liquid pad last night. The pad is a sticky mess but popped out once the chamber heated a bit. There was a good amount of residue on the walls and down at the seam of the screen ( this worries me since if a bunch of oil drips get down there who knows what could happen) but multiple heat ups and wipe downs of the heating chamber got it clean like new again. I then did a dry burn a few times while mouth puffing.
Be cautious with oil is my advice.
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Krizzle
Hi Very high
Had a session today were after I dumped out the ABV I cranked the unit up to its full heat again and let it heat a little, still got whispy vapor when drawing from it, tasted good. Looking down at my crafty whilst vaping I notice a little shiny residue on the small oval area where the unit unlocks. Right its time to clean this sucker then but I kinda fucked up with my cleaning, pictures to follow but I took the cooling unit apart and threw it all in some hot soapy water including the oil pad! Woops, didn't mean too but at least I have a spare that ill start using that until the old one dries out? or is it done?
I think ill order me some cooling units as the medium sized o ring snapped and looks pretty deteriorated. This concerns me a little as I am only 9hrs of use in but perhaps it was my lack of cleaning? Forgot to mention I had at them all with a toothbrush so maybe that was my fault too agressive and broke it? The other 2 are OK. The testing will continue once my crafty drys out
but yeah im not waiting so long between cleaning sessions on future. I wiped the bowl area whilst it was still warm with a Q tip. Anyone else cleaning this part better or different?
Can I clean the cooling unit with rubbing alcohol or is it a big no no due to plastics? Can I wipe just not submerge?
@Volteric I found the top screen catching a lot of oil but then hardening before my next session and I just envisaged it being a pain in the ass to clean in the long run with replacing etc etc the oil pad is nice and easy take in take out and catches the oil as can be seen some dripped down onto the ring area above the bowl
After cleaning
I think ill order me some cooling units as the medium sized o ring snapped and looks pretty deteriorated. This concerns me a little as I am only 9hrs of use in but perhaps it was my lack of cleaning? Forgot to mention I had at them all with a toothbrush so maybe that was my fault too agressive and broke it? The other 2 are OK. The testing will continue once my crafty drys out
but yeah im not waiting so long between cleaning sessions on future. I wiped the bowl area whilst it was still warm with a Q tip. Anyone else cleaning this part better or different? Can I clean the cooling unit with rubbing alcohol or is it a big no no due to plastics? Can I wipe just not submerge?
@Volteric I found the top screen catching a lot of oil but then hardening before my next session and I just envisaged it being a pain in the ass to clean in the long run with replacing etc etc the oil pad is nice and easy take in take out and catches the oil as can be seen some dripped down onto the ring area above the bowl
After cleaning
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darkrom
Great Scott!
If there is a loss of cannabinoids I sure as hell can't feel them. I still feel like Bo other portable gets me half as medicated, so if this breaks again its back to oil only until it gets repaired.
I also believe I have the record for nastiest mouthpiece on here after the one i posted with 6 hrs use. I'll clean mY replacement this week and post pics. I swapped the small screen into this one at some point, so hopefully its less messy.
Just received my Crafty 2 days ago and initial impressions are the device is damn solid like others have mentioned. Ordered direct from the manufacturer with next day shipping mid day and had the device the following day before lunch.
Things I like -
Customer Service is great. My Crafty came with two filling aids (no herb mill). I emailed S&B the following morning and got a reply mid afternoon, they sent out the missing herb mill same day.
The app, it's awesome. As was mentioned, it's a great way to monitor the temps, not that it's hard with the LED, however you can see how your draw affects the temps in real time. I set my stock temp to 185C, I found the effects to be a bit more psychoactive versus the original 180C with the sativa I have. I have a nice hybrid (white fire) that I plan to try out in the coming weeks. Right now I am experimenting with just sativa. I left the boost temp the same. All the other customizations you can make from the app, as well as the help section, it's great. I have some white fire waiting it's turn, and am currently looking to get a pure indica strain to see how it medicates in the Crafty.
A full bowl, not tightly packed--loose but solid, vaporizes incredibly. The vapor production for us wasn't noticeably huge, but the end results were outstanding. This dose was almost too much for two people. I would say we got maybe 12-14 draws at 185C, then when the vapor production begins to diminish, boost for the last 4-6 draws. The finished material is a nice shade of brown.
For solo use, I add about 1/3 a bowl with the oil pad on top. This is a great amount for me to re-medicate. It seems the oil pad doesn't fit flush on top of the material, so I assume the material is tight over the screen once I place the cooling chamber on. The extraction seems to be just as good as a full bowl.
As for grinding, I use a space case titanium 2 piece, about 8-9 turns with some dry material and it's a great consistency for the Crafty. I find the loading aid to be a poor storage case if you are looking for discretion. The material is easily smelled from the outside. I like to use a small 1/2 oz glass jar with my ground material, it seems to help with the smell.
For on-the-go usage, I need to have as little in my pockets as possible. Between my e-cig, wallet, keys, Crafty, etc, I can't have everything on hand. The little pick tool that covers the charging port is a great scoop/packer. I can medicate whenever I need with just the Crafty, oil pad and material jar. The filling aid while great for perfectly packing from a safe location, I find it's more time consuming to deal with and takes up too much space in my pockets.
Smell in the air seems to be noticeable while a session is taking place, but after a few minutes and a spray of air freshener, nobody is any the wiser even 15 minutes later. The device has a little odor, but not offensive or obvious.
The pocket warming you get after use is an added bonus, especially during this time of the year.
Flavor is great, I am not picking up on the plastic taste, at least not while I am tasting vapor. The vapor is a little harsh for me, so I am working on my technique.
As for cleaning, I've only used the device 4 times, but the included brush makes quick work of the already nearly clean bowl after the spent material is dumped. Seeing the buildup of oil left in the cooling chamber that has been posted, I am considering replacing the screen in the cooling unit with the oil pad to see if reclaiming/cleaning is easier and less mess to clean up after a lot of use.
What I don't like -
The device does get hot, especially when boosting.
The battery life is not great. A power pack is definitely needed if you are going to be out and about. I bought a RAVPower 15000mah power pack. I estimate that I can get about 4-5 full bowl sessions on a full charge.
The price is high. C'est la vie.
The pro's far outweigh the cons. I'd like to give a thumbs up to the vape critic (not sure if you are on here?) but your reviews are what really sold me on the device. Thanks for taking the time with your honest review.
If you're thinking about getting one and you can afford it, this device is a no brainer.
Things I like -
Customer Service is great. My Crafty came with two filling aids (no herb mill). I emailed S&B the following morning and got a reply mid afternoon, they sent out the missing herb mill same day.
The app, it's awesome. As was mentioned, it's a great way to monitor the temps, not that it's hard with the LED, however you can see how your draw affects the temps in real time. I set my stock temp to 185C, I found the effects to be a bit more psychoactive versus the original 180C with the sativa I have. I have a nice hybrid (white fire) that I plan to try out in the coming weeks. Right now I am experimenting with just sativa. I left the boost temp the same. All the other customizations you can make from the app, as well as the help section, it's great. I have some white fire waiting it's turn, and am currently looking to get a pure indica strain to see how it medicates in the Crafty.
A full bowl, not tightly packed--loose but solid, vaporizes incredibly. The vapor production for us wasn't noticeably huge, but the end results were outstanding. This dose was almost too much for two people. I would say we got maybe 12-14 draws at 185C, then when the vapor production begins to diminish, boost for the last 4-6 draws. The finished material is a nice shade of brown.
For solo use, I add about 1/3 a bowl with the oil pad on top. This is a great amount for me to re-medicate. It seems the oil pad doesn't fit flush on top of the material, so I assume the material is tight over the screen once I place the cooling chamber on. The extraction seems to be just as good as a full bowl.
As for grinding, I use a space case titanium 2 piece, about 8-9 turns with some dry material and it's a great consistency for the Crafty. I find the loading aid to be a poor storage case if you are looking for discretion. The material is easily smelled from the outside. I like to use a small 1/2 oz glass jar with my ground material, it seems to help with the smell.
For on-the-go usage, I need to have as little in my pockets as possible. Between my e-cig, wallet, keys, Crafty, etc, I can't have everything on hand. The little pick tool that covers the charging port is a great scoop/packer. I can medicate whenever I need with just the Crafty, oil pad and material jar. The filling aid while great for perfectly packing from a safe location, I find it's more time consuming to deal with and takes up too much space in my pockets.
Smell in the air seems to be noticeable while a session is taking place, but after a few minutes and a spray of air freshener, nobody is any the wiser even 15 minutes later. The device has a little odor, but not offensive or obvious.
The pocket warming you get after use is an added bonus, especially during this time of the year.
Flavor is great, I am not picking up on the plastic taste, at least not while I am tasting vapor. The vapor is a little harsh for me, so I am working on my technique.
As for cleaning, I've only used the device 4 times, but the included brush makes quick work of the already nearly clean bowl after the spent material is dumped. Seeing the buildup of oil left in the cooling chamber that has been posted, I am considering replacing the screen in the cooling unit with the oil pad to see if reclaiming/cleaning is easier and less mess to clean up after a lot of use.
What I don't like -
The device does get hot, especially when boosting.
The battery life is not great. A power pack is definitely needed if you are going to be out and about. I bought a RAVPower 15000mah power pack. I estimate that I can get about 4-5 full bowl sessions on a full charge.
The price is high. C'est la vie.
The pro's far outweigh the cons. I'd like to give a thumbs up to the vape critic (not sure if you are on here?) but your reviews are what really sold me on the device. Thanks for taking the time with your honest review.
If you're thinking about getting one and you can afford it, this device is a no brainer.
sweettooth
Active Member
what does everyone use to clean their crafty with ? do I have to use isoprohyl or is hot water with washing up liquid good enough.?
scottg402
Well-Known Member
I just did my first clean last night. Q-tips and ISO.
After three sessions I had minimal resin buildup in the cooling chamber. I also had some fine herb particles in there which was interesting because my grind was not fine at all.
I used 4 q-tips.
Krizzle
Hi Very high
Hot water and washing up liquid will do the job, just not as good as the ISO. I will be going for the full on ISO/Q-tip method next cleaning.
OH yeah a session with a fresh cleaned crafty and new oil pad is beast, Tasty clouds going on and on and on at 180c I could barely boost the temp for a couple of draws before the meds took a real hold, these are strong meds Cheese. I had to retreat indoors before it got the best of me. Time to fly around the world of Elite Dangerous. Crafty medicates me very well..
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scottg402
Well-Known Member
Pretty Craftied up at this point. Two sessions today of some top shelf goodies.
Nice to have someone to share with. I have my father-in-law over from out of town. He is a long time combuster and is digging the Crafty!
He has been using a dugout that someone left over his house and smokes joints otherwise.
I am going to give him my FM V to take home. Good starter vape that's easy to use/clean and the battery last a long time which I think will be important for a guy like him who will probably forget to charge it.
Also looking forward to his noob opinion of the MiniVap v. Crafty later tonight.
But first dinner. It smells so damn good and it's coming out the oven now.
Happy Thanksgiving my FC friends! I hope your day is treating you well! Mine could not be better so far!
Nice to have someone to share with. I have my father-in-law over from out of town. He is a long time combuster and is digging the Crafty!
He has been using a dugout that someone left over his house and smokes joints otherwise.
I am going to give him my FM V to take home. Good starter vape that's easy to use/clean and the battery last a long time which I think will be important for a guy like him who will probably forget to charge it.
Also looking forward to his noob opinion of the MiniVap v. Crafty later tonight.
But first dinner. It smells so damn good and it's coming out the oven now.
Happy Thanksgiving my FC friends! I hope your day is treating you well! Mine could not be better so far!
Folks in the Mighty thread have reported putting intact flowers (unground) in their bowl and vaproizing quite well. I have only been doing a mid/fine grind on mine but would like the quickness of just a nugget or slightly broken up material.
What are your thoughts?
What are your thoughts?
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
@psychonaut : why don't you just test? If it doesn't work, just empty the bowl and grind it more... 
I'll give it a shot after work, and report back with some pics.
How about mix a little grind with a little nugg and get the best of both worlds - flavor AND big vapor!
I have been using nugs especially when on the go for stealth loading. I compress it a bit to get rid of air pockets and I am amazed at the even and full extraction I get. Another benefit of nugs is how cleanly they dump out after vaping, also there is less debris on the top screen.
