Missing combustion..

1150A

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Well..not completely!

I stopped vaping for about 2-3 months.. and began using bubblers and bongs for a bit. I've gone through a lot of vapes also.. Extreme Q, Hammer, Magic Flight, PAX, and right now I've been liking the Arizer Solo.

That being said, I like and sometimes miss the instant effects of combustion. I also like how I'm able to take a hit from a bubbler and I'll be where I want to be, where as with a vaporizer I'll have to sit there and session for a bit.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure I'm conserving quite a bit of flower, so that is definitely a plus.

I often go on business trips for 1-2 weeks at a time giving myself a tolerance break, but it honestly doesn't seem to effect me all that much.

Do you guys notice the same with vaporizers vs combusting? Or perhaps try a harder hitting vape?
 

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
Manufacturer
no, i have to say i don't miss combustion. i have had maybe ten hits off a joint/pipe since 2000 - and 3 of those were a year ago at a movie wrap party.

i have come to appreciate that combustion adds nothing to the equation that i want. but, then again, i am very satisfied with my vape and the extraction it delivers. it is session based (times out at 7.5 minutes), but if i crank it up to 420°F-430°F, a session only takes about 6 hits, versus a normal 12 to 15 hits.

for me, effectiveness is all about herb strain (i.e. genetics) and heat (accuracy & consistency) delivered to the herb in the vape.

you might want to get the sublimator for a bong-like, one hit delivery device, but i personally would never want something like that around my desk where i normally vape ... too big, too hot, too dangerous for my casual lifestyle.

then again, it's a trade off (as always) ... trade a 15 minute warmup routine versus 15 minutes of session.

titrating the dose keeps the tolerance in check.
 

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
If you want those immediate acting big Bong hits check out the Lotus or vapor genie coil with a bubbler or bong.

They give quick big hits that come closest to that combustion experience , for me at least.

Different Vaporizers for different needs but I think everyone who owns a bubbler or bong should also have a lotus/ wpa as a back up or for sharing with people who say they prefer smoking bong hits. Nobody I know will shy away from my lotus/orbiter combo.

:peace:
 

Skyscraper

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Probably gonna roll a couple joints to bring over to a friend's party tonight. I love vaping, there's a lot to carry around with a vape though unless you have a Lotus or some other flame based vape. I even have a Solo, and when at a small house party I'd rather just bring a joint. It's easier that way, for my friends at least. And I don't have to carry a bunch of stuff around (vape, wand, herb, maybe a grinder unless done beforehand).

My :2c: is that smoking can be preferred for some reasons definitely, I find myself missing combustion but I never do it for long because it fucks me up anymore
 
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you know what, there is nothing like a big fat bongload full of high quality cannabis and nicely cured pipe tobacco. Maybe some hash or BHO on top.

To each his own, I guess.
 
JustCallMeKush,

hoptimum

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Well..not completely!

I stopped vaping for about 2-3 months.. and began using bubblers and bongs for a bit. I've gone through a lot of vapes also.. Extreme Q, Hammer, Magic Flight, PAX, and right now I've been liking the Arizer Solo.

That being said, I like and sometimes miss the instant effects of combustion. I also like how I'm able to take a hit from a bubbler and I'll be where I want to be, where as with a vaporizer I'll have to sit there and session for a bit.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure I'm conserving quite a bit of flower, so that is definitely a plus.

I often go on business trips for 1-2 weeks at a time giving myself a tolerance break, but it honestly doesn't seem to effect me all that much.

Do you guys notice the same with vaporizers vs combusting? Or perhaps try a harder hitting vape?

Try using an LSV through your bubbler. You might reconsider combustion altogether.
 
Fuck combustion. I kicked it in January 2013. I combusted one time maybe 3 months later. I started on a MFLB and found it lost its effectiveness after a while (weakened batteries). I combusted one bowl to confirm the MFLB was the issue and not my medicine. I' m totally against all combustion now and would like to think I will never combust again. I went from heavily combusting hash, flowers and cigarettes to completely fucking it within a month. Perhaps I have become a hypocrite too as I will no longer allow anyone to combust anything in my home.
 

herbivore21

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You might want to try a big hitter, some vape that delivers a powerful even heat, able to reach the higher temperatures to deliver strong vapor.

If you want those immediate acting big Bong hits check out the Lotus or vapor genie coil with a bubbler or bong.

They give quick big hits that come closest to that combustion experience , for me at least.

Different Vaporizers for different needs but I think everyone who owns a bubbler or bong should also have a lotus/ wpa as a back up or for sharing with people who say they prefer smoking bong hits. Nobody I know will shy away from my lotus/orbiter combo.

:peace:

The Lotus is definitely capable of producing big enough single hits off flowers to make you not miss combusting. However, I found it somewhat easy to overshoot and combust accidentally if I was pretty vaked.

The Sublimator is the ultimate big hitter. You can load up a tiny amount of bud (.05-.1g) and get an epic rip that will leave you wanting for no more highness! Double deckers (dab and flowers at the same time in one big rip) will also ensure that you get as medicated as you need to as quickly as possible!
 

Abysmal Vapor

Supersniffer 2000 - robot fart detection device
I would recommend getting both nail and oil vape pen :) ! Dabbing huge globs of abv oil on your nail gets you trippin balls like no combustion hit will ever do :D.. And pens deliver fat hits on the go.. one of the most convinient ways to get blasted in publik..
 
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as

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I hate the taste and smell of combustion but will puff a joint if there is nothing els

But I do miss the ritual of skinin up and smoking a joint

When I get them felling I reach for the vapman or vaporgeni just using a lighterbbings the feelings of combustion back to me

The Vapman had it own ritual and s something I very much enjoy doing maybe more then the high that comes with it

The lotus will be my next vape and for me is going to be my home personal vape as I just love using the lighter and controlling my hit

The vapman has take over the roll of round mates house vape from my solo I just prefer to use the vapman much more
 

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
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my gf is (was) the same way ... couple of months ago someone we both respect showed her a PAX (i'm still processing this) and she loved it ... (still processing) ... then after using it exclusively to replace the ziti+joint, she finally tried the upstairs Bud Toaster and finally realized that it hits a bit harder than the PAX running at high setting (seems i can't tell her much, perhaps she knows me too well ... i'm still processing) and has zero cleaning requirements, although she says cleaning the PAX is not a big deal (completely out of character ... can NOT process that).

Baby steps ... maybe she needs to take baby steps, too.
 

Tommy10

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I still combust, probably 80-20 vaping and combustion. I like rolling and smoking joints and blunts and I'll smoke bongs with friends if that's all that's going. By myself I almost exclusively vape, with a few joint here and there. I have no desire to fuckconbustion really, each to their own....
But in your case I'd suggest a hard hitter! I know if I used to be a full time bong smoker my hammer would have that covered! Plenty of other vapes you can check out to use throught your bubbler. You may never stop combusting altogether, but if big lung busting one and done hits are what you're after, the technology is already there with vaping. Did you use your hammer through water?
 
Tommy10,

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I do not miss combusting at all. I don't think I could physically handle a joint or a regular smoking pipe. I think it would make me caugh too much. I don't miss the beginnings of a smokers cough in the mornings or the smell or smoke in my nose, clothing and hair.

I am completely combustion free, have not combusted in almost 3 years come this Dec 31st. Let me take that back I tried to combust once with a friend and I hated it that was about 6 months after I quit the smoke.

The smell really would limit when and where I could use cannabis. Vaporizing doesn't smell very much then dissipates anyway, it doesn't linger like smoking.
It's all good.

There is nothing to miss about smoking IMO.:2c::peace:
 
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mikeben

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No I don't miss it, and a few years ago I was a joint madman. I loved the papers I could try, the flavors, the different brands and how they burned, Now I just have a drawer I haven't touched in a long time as I have been on 80 percent vapor for a year and going on forty days combustion free.
 

Tommy10

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Mmm might go combustion free by myself for a couple weeks just to be sure I actually could. Social settings, unless cannabis culture has a rapid change I dare say I'll still be combusting socially for a while. Vape whenever I can and get as many friends to try it, but sometimes you are somewhere no vape and someone has some green, I'll never say no. VG has certainly made it easy to just chuck one in when I know im going away for a while, everyone here has a bic and the thing has no glass!
 
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