Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

Shit Snacks said:

It does smell a little and even left some mind of residue on the metal plate after I remove the lid.

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I would definitely ISO it, but can you post a pic first? That doesn't sound right, particularly for a vape of this cost.

Its not sooooo bad right? (goes all around though, exact mark of the grey silicone) I'm about to try it out cuz its charged up after I clean this off... Anyone else notice this on their new firefly?

I see it.

Technically, I don't think that's part of the airpath. Looking at the shape of my lid, it should be closed off from that area by design.

In any event, I'd deem it unacceptable. Maybe fine to use, but the FF is supposed to be your showoff piece... it shouldn't have residue where it doesn't belong... which I guess would mean it shouldn't have residue anywhere!

Looks like something I'd get on to LiveChat about with FF. Certainly wouldn't take long.

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

I see it.

Technically, I don't think that's part of the airpath. Looking at the shape of my lid, it should be closed off from that area by design.

In any event, I'd deem it unacceptable. Maybe fine to use, but the FF is supposed to be your showoff piece... it shouldn't have residue where it doesn't belong... which I guess would mean it shouldn't have residue anywhere!

Looks like something I'd get on to LiveChat about with FF. Certainly wouldn't take long.

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Eh, after cleaning it off and using it, its been fine I think. I'm with my gf so don't wanna go online chatting right now. I don't k ow what they would offer me, a free new lid? That'd be useful to have a spare so maybe I will email them later at least?

Anyway we got nice results from the shredder, but yeah flying around herb clogs the airpath so we will try unground next after second battery charges. Was really only able to get a light heady high (which is great actually, was afraid I could only get heavy hits without temp control) with light avb, so I think unground will help keep things from flying around too much and help get some consistent heavy clouds.

Tried with a screen on top after the first few hits each, and they're a little small actually, stuff still got through around it so maybe they're only for small loads? Or are they for the bottom screen replacement? How would you even replace that bottom screen?

Shit Snacks said:

Tried with a screen on top after the first few hits each, and they're a little small actually, stuff still got through around it so maybe they're only for small loads? Or are they for the bottom screen replacement? How would you even replace that bottom screen?

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Yep, they are a bit too small to catch everything. I find that they help stop most debris, and also seem to raise the temp in the oven a bit to help get those higher temperature hits.

They are actually for bottom screen replacement, by design. To replace, you have to, gently, coax the screen out with a toothpick or dentist tool or something. You'll probably warp it a little bit each time, but I'm still using the same two screens and I'm on 10 months. Just be patient when you change it.

And you shouldn't have to for a good while.

Shit Snacks said:

Its not sooooo bad right? (goes all around though, exact mark of the grey silicone) I'm about to try it out cuz its charged up after I clean this off... Anyone else notice this on their new firefly?

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Yes. All of my various new ones have had this, including the one I received today. Residue from the seal. And yes, you get a slight odor on the lid which goes away with use, and/or a little ISO. This is probably what @cg_vapes was noticing. Residue comes right off with some ISO.

Shit Snacks said:

Well what do you know!

Shipping from New Jersey so its already out for delivery today! Perfect so i can be here to sign for it. Exciting times lie ahead!

As far as method, ive read so many different things its hard to keep track, but I think for starters a preheat holding down the button for like 10sec after first turning it on with a fresh bowl to get it going, then I can start taking slow steady hits while holding the button. Correct?

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Here's a summary of my approach. YMMV and all that.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-firefly-vaporizer.11365/page-149#post-649167

Yeah, @EveryDayAmnesiac bugs is working nicely so far. Four pieces in there, had a nice 7 hit session between us. How many do you get that way? Is it even without heating the middle? I was thinking of trying smaller chunks, like maybe fitting 8ish in there


@mitchgo61 I'll try yours later on, thanks bro!

mitchgo61 said:

Yes. All of my various new ones have had this, including the one I received today. Residue from the seal.

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Really? Guh. Yeah, I'm sure it's probably fine, but... they would be hearing from me if I ever receive a unit that looks like that.

Shit Snacks said:

Yeah, @EveryDayAmnesiac bugs is working nicely so far. Four pieces in there, had a nice 7 hit session between us. How many do you get that way? Is it even without heating the middle? I was thinking of trying smaller chunks, like maybe fitting 8ish in there

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I find that the bigger the piece, or chunks, I throw in, the less even the heating will be. So, if I'm using a whole chunk, I like to hit it very lightly for two hits, flip it, hit it twice again, then break it up and go from there.

But I take one hit about every 15 minutes, so keep that in mind.

When I do a good grind, I find that the heating is mostly even, although you'd probably need one good stir, as well as a couple good shakes, IMO. The price of convection portables at this point?

Hey all!

I wanted to share with you a recent project which I thought up a few months ago - the Firefly WaterPipe Adapter!



I 3D scanned the Firefly to acquire a profile of the mouthpiece and designed a mold to cast an 18mm male WPA out of Aquarium Grade non-toxic (vapor safe) silicon.

Though I'm embarrassed to admit this firefly is on loan from a fellow FC member, and I have been unable to milk the firefly to save my life! Sadly I am unable to produce a nice video of the WPA's performance. Perhaps someone with more skill and a video camera would be willing to get some sweet video of the FireFly's milking abilities (PM me if you think you're up to the task!) - hopefully this product will be available on my Etsy store soon!

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

Really? Guh. Yeah, I'm sure it's probably fine, but... they would be hearing from me if I ever receive a unit that looks like that.

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Yes, I've seen it on 8 FFs. Got two this week (sent me a Red by mistake...long story). Both looked like this. Also, at first the seal is so strong it's almost impossible to pry open, but once opened it's normal. Again, I think in storage and shipping the silicon seal gets a little "stiuck" and leaves a little residue. It really looks more like ambient air moisture than anything else. And the Red I received had a bit of odor on the lid, but the silver didn't. Both had the residue. But it wipes right off, and doesn't seem to be a big deal. (And even in normal usage, prior to a cleaning, I sometimes see a little outline of where the seal makes contact...again, doesn't seem like a big deal.)

I've just heard from a UK retailer stating to be officially released in UK @ £199

Ratchett said:

Hey all!

I wanted to share with you a recent project which I thought up a few months ago - the Firefly WaterPipe Adapter!

I 3D scanned the Firefly to acquire a profile of the mouthpiece and designed a mold to cast an 18mm male WPA out of Aquarium Grade non-toxic (vapor safe) silicon.

Though I'm embarrassed to admit this firefly is on loan from a fellow FC member, and I have been unable to milk the firefly to save my life! Sadly I am unable to produce a nice video of the WPA's performance. Perhaps someone with more skill and a video camera would be willing to get some sweet video of the FireFly's milking abilities (PM me if you think you're up to the task!) - hopefully this product will be available on my Etsy store soon!

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I would definitely buy one of these! let us know when you get them up for sale!

For some reason I have combusted a number of times now, I would say around 5-10 times within the 2-3 weeks I have had this vape. I really cannot understand why since my technique is correct, I contacted firefly too about the problem. My biggest annoyance is when combustion happens the smell will stay there forever... Is there any way at all to fully clean the firefly to get rid of that smell or am I screwed?

I have not outright combusted, yet if I hold the heating button even a tad too long I do find tiny particles of charred black material in my ABV. To me this means those particles were heated too much and it's not the stuff I like to inhale. And like you Secureswede I'm using the device correctly: barely preheating and no I'm not pressing the heat button more then once. It is defenitely a concern for me, so much so that I'm considering selling the Firefly and getting the Crafty instead. I hate to even consider this as what attracted me to the Firefly was the glass bowl and easy to clean stainless steel air path. Hate to go back to plastic, yet feel swayed by having EXACT temperature controls. I've used the Volcano for many years (and still do) and the ABV is always nice and evenly toasted. This is what I like and expect from a fairly high priced portable vape and frankly with the Firefly it's often a guessing game. And YES I do stir, which brings me to another reason to CONSIDER the Crafty: no stirring, evenly roasted ABV and precise temperature control.
Curious to find out what the folks at Firefly had to say about this. I have considered contacting them myself but have not yet done so.

mitchgo61 said:

Well, not lids separately from the FFs. I've just had a number of them go bad on me.

1. Dark grey...combusted on day one. Replaced by...
2. Silver, worked great for 90 days, then started combusting, replaced by...
3. Silver, worked fine for five months, then the heating element died. Replaced by one this week.

That's three. In March I bought a second FF, Red...

4. Red, never worked efficiently. Finally sent it in for service in July, replaced by...
5. Red, never worked right. Fully charged batts would throw a red light and shut off the coil in seconds. Used it only one day, replaced by...
6. Current Red FF, but it came with a lid that didn't make a seal. So they overnighted me...
7. Lid number 7.

There you have it. Six FFs plus a 7th lid. The Silver replacement from this week makes 7 FFs and 8 lids.

Not that I'm counting.

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I had battery issues and they sent me a new battery. Well it came and still much of the same. In fact, I'm having exactly the same issue as your number 5. Fully charged but throws a red light and bowl goes dead almost immediately.

So I'll be calling tomorrow. I hoping with all those returns that they sent you a shipping label. Did you have to play for all those returns?

BabyFacedFinster said:

I had battery issues and they sent me a new battery. Well it came and still much of the same. In fact, I'm having exactly the same issue as your number 5. Fully charged but throws a red light and bowl goes dead almost immediately.

So I'll be calling tomorrow. I hoping with all those returns that they sent you a shipping label. Did you have to play for all those returns?

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I have never paid for any returns. And you're right....that's not a battery problem, it's the FF itself. I had the luxury of popping my batteries in my other FF and they performed fine. It's definitely an issue with the device...something is causing it to read the battery as dead. Has your FF ever worked correctly? Mine had this issue right out of the box,

Ask them for an RMA and a FedEx label. They'll send you one in email. All you have to do is drop it off.

SecureSwede said:

For some reason I have combusted a number of times now, I would say around 5-10 times within the 2-3 weeks I have had this vape. I really cannot understand why since my technique is correct, I contacted firefly too about the problem. My biggest annoyance is when combustion happens the smell will stay there forever... Is there any way at all to fully clean the firefly to get rid of that smell or am I screwed?

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ISO will clean out the smell, but it may take a couple rounds. You may a heating coil that is not quite positioned properly, usually the cause of intermittent combustion.

Here is a bit of my battery issue, from another thread.

I finally found a shop that carries extra battery for my Firefly, (on St. Marks called Ivape.)
No other shops I've seen carry it.

I haven't been able to discharge it yet to check extra battery life, but after only a few draws the hits are so much denser and easier to draw. I suspect that this new battery will have longer usage in session as well.

I didnt' have a good idea previously of what Firefly could do with a proper battery.

Ratchett said:

Thanks for that @OMEiAM - Yes the Indica Loading funnel is a new design I'm very happy with. It's currently available exclusively to FC members (PM if interested!). I'll let everyone know when it's available to order through my stores (Maybe even available in stainless steel through shapeways!)



In other news I wanted to announce that I have reduced shipping rates on my Etsy store for some smaller items (including the indica loading funnels)! Shipping for some items is 50% cheaper!

Additionally, Shapeways has lowered their costs for printing in some materials including plastic and steel! Stay tuned for more accessories available for printing in high-definition before the end of the year!



Here's a sneak peak at my current project - a Silicon FireFly WaterPipe Adapter! This part will be cast from non-toxic aquarium grade silicon and will be completely vapor safe (ISO safe for cleaning as well!)

3D scanned for a perfect fit, it's completely safe to use without modifying your FireFly


For those curious types - here's a sample of the design process (prototypes in no particular order) - I print various molds and cast silicon parts to test the fit - checking for an air-tight fit, then vapor polishing the molds (acetone vapor!) to achieve a nice glossy finish on the cast parts.

This part should be available soon on my Etsy Store

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Exciting stuff happening here. Firefly mods!

Deja Vu said:

Exciting stuff happening here. Firefly mods!

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It wouldn't have happened without the awesome members of this site brave enough to lend me their vaporizers for several weeks while I 3D scan and design the accessories! I love being a part of this awesome community.

Just ordered several tubes of silicone in preparation for all these new WPA's I'm making (I'm also working on SonG WPA's for the Indica and the Herbalizer, they should all hit the market in the very near future - just in time for the holidays!)

Ratchett said:

It wouldn't have happened without the awesome members of this site brave enough to lend me their vaporizers for several weeks while I 3D scan and design the accessories! I love being a part of this awesome community.

Just ordered several tubes of silicone in preparation for all these new WPA's I'm making (I'm also working on SonG WPA's for the Indica and the Herbalizer, they should all hit the market in the very near future - just in time for the holidays!)

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Very very excited to maybe see a photo of a firefly connecting to a water pipe, and then more excited to make that dream reality with one of your products!
May seem insignificant to people out there feeding the starving and doing heart surgery but in my little bubble this is BIG NEWS and I thank you on behalf of all Firefly owners for this wonderful initiative and skillful 3d craftsmanship! To the future!

Also yes thanks to all who gave their devices for scanning Did you end up having a nice sesh with the Firefly? Top quality devices imo

@Ratchett your work has been incredible dude! I will definitely be ordering a Firefly SonG with my Indica SonG. Too fantastic portables finally able to connect directly into 18mm waterpipe!!!

Ive been having nice results with my Firefly so far. No combustion ever, but also it seems like I don't get an extraction temp much higher than like 385 I think (is that the set temp?) which is fine for me actually. That's probably my ideal temp if there's no temp settings, and I have the Elevape/T1/Underdog for higher temp extraction anyway, its nice to have convection vape that is simple and reliably produces the headier effects that I particularly enjoy. Here's a pic of my Firefly AVB on the right with roughly the same amount of Indica AVB on the left for reference:

In the Indica i started at at the bottom (340F) and worked my way up to the top (410F). Stopped both bowls after the clouds mostly subsided. So unsurprisingly the Indica has a deeper extraction with the higher temp range and session conduction heating.

I've also found a similar grind to be effective in each, in the SC shredder (though Indica does better if the grind is a but on the fine side, and FF a bit on the coarse side). I did try bigger chunks, and smaller chunks, and even like a crumble grind my hand, and I definitely get the best hits with a regular grind. A lot of this is bc a lot of stirring is required the bigger the pieces are, making it hard to get good hits sometimes.

The system ive been using this week is filling decently full, and patting down a little to help prevent clogs a little. However when you draw, those pathways inevitably do get a little clogged. So after each hit I kinda smack the top in my hand to shake off any herb stick to the lid/pathways (and it helps stir a tad kinda too). ofcourse this can't get all of the stick herb, so draw can still be restrictive, but I never really have trouble finishing the bowl this way. For an especially full pack though, I will open it once for a stir before finishing it off a few hits later.

I like this system even if it is imperfect, since the stirring with the FF is more annoying than the Elevape with its much smaller lid and wider bowl. Emptying the load is pretty easy though, pour it out, then rub off the stuck herb on the lid and in the pathway with my finger before blowing any remaining scraps away. Yes its still dirty, but I haven't had to clean it just yet deapiye using it every night which is great, since I'm someone who doesn't like to have to deal with cleaning too often. Though I won't wait too much longer since I know it will only make it harder to clean.

Taste has been pretty nice with the instant heat and materials. The ceramic heating element+glass bowl+steel path is definitely better than the Elevape's titanium coil+steel mesh screen+aluminum bowl/path, and since it keeps to a lower temp it can maintain it better as well even without stirring. However with my Indica on low temps, especially beginning of a bowl, it is almost on par actually. It has that same steel taste ever so slightly, but mostly pretty pure despite no glass or ceramic. What sets them apart is the firefly's on demand convection, so that can give it a taste edge over the Indica.

The Indica can also have harsh hits with its conduction and short vapor path, but Firefly's path is quite short too, so its pretty easy for me to get a big harsh hit that I have difficulty holding in. The Elevape does a bit better at keeping the hits cool with its on demand vapor. I believe it may have something to do with the FFs on switch, which sets it to a low standby temp (correct?) vs the Elevape's instantaneous heat up when you being to draw. So the Firefly gets hotter in use. Also worth noting, the Firefly does use quite a bit of plastic for its body, but it seems to be of very high quality.

All in all, I'm pretty satsifed with the purchase so far, even though I had no need for it. Its become a nice home portable for me, when I want convection but I'm not in the mood to fire up the Underdog (and I try not to use the T1 too often since Thermovape shut down), while Indica remains my go to portable overall (especially out and about). Can definitely see my Solo becoming obsolete now, with the Firefly as a home portable and the Indica on the go (and home too actually...) even though Solo's heating style is kind of in between the two. It can't match the Elevape's portability and overall ease of use though, especially once they improve their screens/stirring which is supposed to happen soon. But as a more home-based, constant temp, and tastier on demand convection portable, the Firefly sure is a fun new toy and really does feel like an old school glass spoon pipe which is doubly neat!

Shit Snacks said:

@Ratchett your work has been incredible dude! I will definitely be ordering a Firefly SonG with my Indica SonG. Too fantastic portables finally able to connect directly into 18mm waterpipe!!!

Ive been having nice results with my Firefly so far. No combustion ever, but also it seems like I don't get an extraction temp much higher than like 385 I think (is that the set temp?) which is fine for me actually. That's probably my ideal temp if there's no temp settings, and I have the Elevape/T1/Underdog for higher temp extraction anyway, its nice to have convection vape that is simple and reliably produces the headier effects that I particularly enjoy. Here's a pic of my Firefly AVB on the right with roughly the same amount of Indica AVB on the left for reference:

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400F is the stated high end of the FF range. Obviously some units run hotter sometimes.

If you slap a top screen on, late in the session, you can get ABV from the FF similar to your Indica abv. Just to show you how variant the FFs can be, my new silver runs a bit hot and easily produces ABV that dark, and darker...my red requires a top screen to generate that kind of heat.

Nice thorough review, thanks for posting your thoughts!

Took my Firefly to the city last night for a night of drinking and club-hopping. Not my usual Friday night routine but my roommate convinced me to get out and mingle. Got a few numbers and spent a majority of the time on the dancefloor with my FF while a German deep-house DJ played a dark set! Loved it and was thankful that I didn't get kicked out for vaporizing, and believe it or not ONE battery was all I took with me and I had about 4 or 5 packed bowls and shared it around. Lasted all night!

If I had a Go-Pro I'd make a Firefly commercial of it's many uses and exotic locations to vape in

I love my Firefly, its my overall favorite portable, nothing has touched the flavor for me yet.

Are any of you having luck with Wax in your firefly? I recently got some very tasty wax and I keep wanting to try sandwiching it in a firefly bowl.

@Shit Snacks I might be wrong, but whenever I compare AVB from conduction and convection vapes I feel like the conduction vape avb always comes out darker, even if the extraction was the same.

BuzzDanklin said:

I love my Firefly, its my overall favorite portable, nothing has touched the flavor for me yet.

Are any of you having luck with Wax in your firefly? I recently got some very tasty wax and I keep wanting to try sandwiching it in a firefly bowl.

@Shit Snacks I might be wrong, but whenever I compare AVB from conduction and convection vapes I feel like the conduction vape avb always comes out darker, even if the extraction was the same.

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How do you get the wax? I get a sticky buildup in all the normal areas, but I just put it all in with my ABV.