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Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

Scott A

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Be careful not to slop it around too much, but most guys don't seem to have too much luck if the fouling goes too far. Tougher attacks are called for then.

However the fouling is not caused by "this thing", but rather what you put in it. I've got well over half an ounce through mine with basically zero fouling. The key is what you put in it seems. As was pointed out by the Magic Flight engineer a while back moisture in the herb is the major issue. Keep it dry and fairly fine ground and stuff should brush out while still warm.

I think the glass flowers (which you should try at any rate) also help by keeping the load more or less intact so it falls out freely while still warm. Once any tiny deposits are spotted, removing them (I use a toothpick) before loading more keeps them from growing out of control I think. Being a conduction vape you really don't want any old plant junk (think insulation) between the heat and the load you want to vape.

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OF
Thanks for the reply OF. It hasnt really been a problem with getting particles out its more of the surprising amount oil build up that Im seeing. I have maybe 5 or 6 bowls through it right now and already getting a little gummed up. At least the glass air path is completely removable so I know that wont be a problem to clean. I really need to get some glass flowers or something to use as a better spacer because I can already see how using the oil can as a spacer will get very annoying when it has oil build up on it.
 

donald420

Active Member
Hey guys long time lurker, just wondering what everyone thinks is better a pax or ascent? I have a pax and think it's great but kind of over the mouth piece issue and the ascent really caught my attention.
Thanks
 
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Delta3DStudios

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Hey guys long time lurker, just wondering what everyone thinks is better a pax or ascent? I have a pax and think it's great but kind of over the mouth piece issue and the ascent really caught my attention.
Thanks

Two totally different types of vapes.

For Stealth - the Pax is better
For Flavor - The Ascent clearly wins

I found an alternative to the Pax for my stealth needs, but the Ascent's flavor at low temps is superb
 

donald420

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Two totally different types of vapes.

For Stealth - the Pax is better
For Flavor - The Ascent clearly wins

I found an alternative to the Pax for my stealth needs, but the Ascent's flavor at low temps is superb


Cool thanks for the input. Would you choose a ascent over a pax? Not to worried about the stealth factor seeing as the ascent doesn't look THAT obvious.
 
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Delta3DStudios

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The Pax's only good thing (in my opinion) is it's stealth factor. The Ascent is a better vape in many other ways - it tastes better, it's easier to clean, more control over temperatures, and requires LESS maintenance to keep it running (The pax requires religious cleaning of the mouthpiece to prevent premature failure of device)
 

donald420

Active Member
The Pax's only good thing (in my opinion) is it's stealth factor. The Ascent is a better vape in many other ways - it tastes better, it's easier to clean, more control over temperatures, and requires LESS maintenance to keep it running (The pax requires religious cleaning of the mouthpiece to prevent premature failure of device)

That's exactly why I was looking at getting the ascent the pax needs way to much attention to keep it in perfect working order. Just don't know if I want to take the risk getting one sent to new Zealand again. Anyone willing to trade? Haha
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I don't own the Pax but used it a few times. I didn't like the flavor. It gave the herb that burnt taste after the first min or so. Plus it was a weed hog. Not efficient IMO.

The Ascent works best if using the glass flowers from Amazon. They are actually glass pipe screens. You can use more or less depending on how much herb you are using. I usually use around 5. I like being able to dial in my exact temp that I want to vape. The Ascent is very good in the flavor department. It gives your vapor an exquisite flavor. You can taste the true taste of the herb you are using.

I like the looks of the Ascent. Nobody would know you are using a vaporizer. Whether you vape for recreational or medical the Ascent will give you the flavor that a lot of portables can't give you. Make sure you go with an authorized vendor. You will need to contact DaVinci and see who that would be? I'm not sure if Puffitup is an authorized vendor? There is no charge if you need to send the unit back if you go with Puffitup.

I've had my Ascent for a year. I have been using it 3 or 4 times a week. It's not my daily driver. We all have our own tolerances and likes. Only you know what you need in a vaporizer. Good luck it can be a tough decision. There are a lot of several good units out there.:2c: Always good to have more than one vaporizer.
:leaf::peace:
 

donald420

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I don't own the Pax but used it a few times. I didn't like the flavor. It gave the herb that burnt taste after the first min or so. Plus it was a weed hog. Not efficient IMO.

The Ascent works best if using the glass flowers from Amazon. They are actually glass pipe screens. You can use more or less depending on how much herb you are using. I usually use around 5. I like being able to dial in my exact temp that I want to vape. The Ascent is very good in the flavor department. It gives your vapor an exquisite flavor. You can taste the true taste of the herb you are using.

I like the looks of the Ascent. Nobody would know you are using a vaporizer. Whether you vape for recreational or medical the Ascent will give you the flavor that a lot of portables can't give you. Make sure you go with an authorized vendor. You will need to contact DaVinci and see who that would be? I'm not sure if Puffitup is an authorized vendor? There is no charge if you need to send the unit back if you go with Puffitup.

I've had my Ascent for a year. I have been using it 3 or 4 times a week. It's not my daily driver. We all have our own tolerances and likes. Only you know what you need in a vaporizer. Good luck it can be a tough decision. There are a lot of several good units out there.:2c: Always good to have more than one vaporizer.
:leaf::peace:
So far from the sounds of things I'll be looking at selling my pax to get the ascent, I've had my pax for 2 years now haven't had any issues with it besides the temp light issue but thats just due to not being able to completely clean it properly, I had my eye on the ascent for awhile. After hearing from some of you guys I'm almost convinced haha but what do you mean by you like to use glass flowers? And how do you use them in the ascent?
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-Pack...yle-Smoking-Pipe-Assorted-Color-/371170511957 (You probably want to buy more than 10, I bought 50 for $8 a while back on ebay - my LHS is charging $1.50 EACH!)
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Sometimes called "Glass Pipe Flowers", "Glass Jacks" or Glass Daisy Flower screens. Basically use a few of these throughout your load (and a few on top to keep the ABV from flying into your mouth through the glass stem!

Search this thread, you'll read a LOT of comments on how to use them and best packing techniques with them
Here is a picture. They have been talked about at length. Research the topic. I use 2 on the bottom 1 in the middle and 2 on top. We use them for heat distribution and to hold the load down. Many of us found that the load would cool off after a draw and the herb would fly around inside the oven. @OF discovered this simple remedy. You can try them out. They aren't that expensive. You can taylor your load that way. You can use a couple or 6 or 7.

Most folks that have tried these have been very successful.
 

mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
The Magic Eraser got my oven clean. It worked really well. I did do an ISO damp Q-tip after.

how do you use the magic eraser in the bowl?? my fingers are too big to scrub with. so can you enlighten me to your technique please??
 
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CarolKing

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I have small hands/fingers. I tore off a piece of the eraser. I had it in the bottom of the bowl and just twisted it around, kinda in a turning motion. It made my dark grimy oven clean again.

Another FCer had the idea. I can't remember who? I can't take credit for it. Vaporing household hints.
 

mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
I have small hands/fingers. I tore off a piece of the eraser. I had it in the bottom of the bowl and just twisted it around, kinda in a turning motion. It made my dark grimy oven clean again.
thanks for the reple.... i tried and its just too hard to use a piece of the eraser and my fat finger to to anything in there. i need a tiny magic eraser brush
 

OF

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how do you use the magic eraser in the bowl?? my fingers are too big to scrub with. so can you enlighten me to your technique please??

Really serious owners get the tip of one finger ground down to fit. Usually a 'pinky'.

For the less dedicated grab a small piece of it with your hemostats (since you no longer need a roach clip.....), with some sticking out the end and have at it. Very traditional trick. Also works well with steel wool.

Or, use scissors to cut a narrow strip a few inches long and stuff that down a plastic straw with a wooden match or bamboo skewer until some sticks out the end far enough. Then pinch the straw (holding the stick so the pad can't back up the tube) and scrub away?

OF
 

mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
thanks OF for the suggestions. believe it or not.... i dont have any more "roach clips" anymore
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Got an email from DaVinci.
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Design your own unit it said, awesome. i think a white pearl would be pretty. Not the most stealth I guess.
 
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mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
Got an email from DaVinci.
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Design your own unit it said, awesome. i think a white pearl would be pretty. Not the most stealth I guess.

i wanted to do my motorcycle club colors but there was no orange option :( no real worries... i'm not buying a new one anyways... just wanted to see how it would have looked
 
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donald420

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Here is a picture. They have been talked about at length. Research the topic. I use 2 on the bottom 1 in the middle and 2 on top. We use them for heat distribution and to hold the load down. Many of us found that the load would cool off after a draw and the herb would fly around inside the oven. @OF discovered this simple remedy. You can try them out. They aren't that expensive. You can taylor your load that way. You can use a couple or 6 or 7.

Most folks that have tried these have been very successful.

Yeah must have missed that Page haha, sweet as but does the ascent work sweet without them? Sounds a bit annoying having to keep putting a bunch of those in and stuff so if I was on the go would the ascent still perform well?
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
I don't use them and just compact the load to make a flat hard puck. No need to distribute heat IMO, no or little flying plant matter, and plenty of power available without them. Other FC members like them a lot but you can definitely use the device without them or other artefacts.
 

Delta3DStudios

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Accessory Maker
Yeah must have missed that Page haha, sweet as but does the ascent work sweet without them? Sounds a bit annoying having to keep putting a bunch of those in and stuff so if I was on the go would the ascent still perform well?

The glass flowers definitively make it a hassle to reload (especially in a moving car!). But as KeroZen mentioned, you can use the Ascent just fine without them - just tamp everything down into a partially compressed 'brick' - don't make it too tight so no air can flow, but dense enough to let heat transfer throughout the load.

To be honest, the flowers are a bit annoying. I've really been thinking about designing a simple oval spacer and having it milled from Stainless Steel. Maybe different size spacers to accommodate different sized loads.....
 
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valence

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Was thinking of getting an Ascent on Massdrop (149.99) but I saw da vinci's comment that they won't honor the warranty from sites like that. Are there still lots of issues with units? I love the discount but if there's no warranty coverage and I get a defective unit it seems like it isn't worth the big discount...
 

mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
The glass flowers definitively make it a hassle to reload (especially in a moving car!). But as KeroZen mentioned, you can use the Ascent just fine without them - just tamp everything down into a partially compressed 'brick' - don't make it too tight so no air can flow, but dense enough to let heat transfer throughout the load.

To be honest, the flowers are a bit annoying. I've really been thinking about designing a simple oval spacer and having it milled from Stainless Steel. Maybe different size spacers to accommodate different sized loads.....
i have a perfect design in my head for a spacer but cant get it out of my head in the right way so someone could make it. so let me try here....

i think it should be made of glass (maybe SS would be good) and it would be a thin oval the shape of the ascent bowl. protruding from the bottom of the oval would be 3 or 4 smooth stalactite shaped stems (aka the glass flowers single stem) and coming up from the top of the oval a thin tab of some sort able to be gripped by two fingers or tweezers (when hot). an all in one piece that you can load your ascent with material put this into the material and press it down close the ascent door, vape, and when done open the door and CAREFULLY pull out the spacer in one easy motion. also i forgot.... there needs to be tiny holes drilled into the oval between the stalactites and the handle to allow vapor through.

now if anyone could understand me and make that i think those of us with fat fingers and hate messing with the tine but useful glass flowers would be happy.... i think
 
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KeroZen

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@Ratchett , @mmenzie : at some point, if DaVinci can't manage to produce the spacer they announced two times in the past already, then yes I think a custom solution of the kind you two describe would be in order!

I already hesitated to get Ratchett's tamping tool but finally got one with my FlowerMate. If you could produce a working spacer/filler (and you could take inspiration from the Indica here maybe) then this time I think I would hit the trigger and buy it from your online shop.
 
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