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The Mighty/Mighty+ by Storz & Bickel

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
The bowl is supposed to be packed full so that its loose enough to allow air flow but not loose enough to let the load shift around in the chamber due to gravity. Thus it should not matter if a full load it upright or not. Moreover, by laying it sideways one would prevent plant material from falling thru the bottom screen, and mucking up the heater, which would only help it stay cleaner and require less maintenance.

The device would also cool better laid down instead of upright, due to the phenomenon of heat rising--you might be familiar with it.

Also, any monkey could pick up the device laid flat, which is why the criticism that it's more difficult to pick up the handheld device if its not upright fails to hold water.

The readability of the display in a horizontal or vertical position is easy enough for me, because if the device is close enough to reach out my arm and pick it up, then I can clearly see the LED display.

As to your idea of "good common sense" or how many hands it takes to perform manual tasks, I will regard those as your subjective opinions that are not for me to refute.

I guess folks will form all sorts of opinions and in fact on this forum some significant partisanism arises just like people picking the professional sports team they want to support.
I disagree with every point you've made: The bowl will accept whatever amount I choose to place in it, and the design and function of the bowl dictates no such rule as you suggest; laying the unit on it's side will not prevent plant matter from mucking anything up, as it is generally held upright when in use, and is positioned upright when pocketed - if S&B rationalized the prone position as a way to keep the screen clean, I've got a golden bridge to sell; laying the unit down will hinder the cross-breeze cooling effect that this ribbed design intended, and the table on which the unit rests laid down will act as an insulator to the heat and thereby contain it within that minimal space; an arthritic hand such as mine can negotiate my upright cell-phone much less painfully than if it were laid down, requiring a more difficult and painful maneuver; the readability of the display may be comfortable enough for you at whatever level, but I generally read books, magazines, cell phone screens, and watch tv while these things are propped up - not laid down - focusing on these things while propped-up also enables a quicker/more accurate lock on the visual target; not everyone has two well-functioning hands, but a stand-up unit would be better appreciated by either one hand or two, IMO. The aforementioned are of course my subjective opinions based on what would work best for me, often guided by my own good common sense. Forum partisanship has nothing to do with any of this as far as I'm concerned. Though you say that "I will regard those as your subjective opinions that are not for me to refute.", you have attempted to do just that, as is your prerogative, such that I would not deny. With only 10 posts to your credit on this forum thus far, there will be much for you to learn and share, should you choose to stick around. I hope you do.
 
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Bill Densoyle

Well-Known Member
Respectfully,

Yeah the bowl will accept it, but if the pack is loose enough for material to float around, it may not do a proper extraction. That's why they recommend putting the liquid pad over small loads. Although I found putting the liquid pad in the bowl wouldn't leave much room for anything else.

I think S&B made it to work if its upright or sideways or any which way, which is part of the genius to the functionality of it. I have held it upright while in use, but while its being stored i have often kept it not upright, but oriented either flat or laying down on its side in my hand or in a pocket.

Yeah sorry about the condescending remark, but I felt my point above was overlooked when I mentioned that on a level flat surface it balances on the center line spine of the ribs or heat-sink part of the device. And even if it tilts to the side it still has minimal contact with the table surface. Considering those dynamics, I still believe it would have better cooling laid flat while worse cooling when its not laid flat. When its held in one's hand or in a pocket, there is also insulation happening around it, so that's why I kind of conclude they designed it to function any which way.

Thanks for the kind words, Snappo. Respect to you.
 

elmomuzz

That just happened...
It's only an issue if you make it one. Until I read about it here I never would have thought it was a big deal. It has no effect on function. If you can type a post on this forum you can pick it up. It's not that big a deal. lol

This is my last post about it though. If you all want to go on and on about it then go ahead. I'll be using my mighty and don't care anymore. :D
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Having no stand-ability on its own is not a deal breaker for me, only a point of interest. I have no doubt that I can innovate a solution that will accommodate my preferences. For me, a standing Mighty would make a great vape even better.
 

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
Staff member
Here is a cell phone stand for $2 that a person could use.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009CNPAWY/ref=ox_ya_os_product_refresh_T1
stand.jpg
 

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
Staff member
And why it is good to remember there is no one best vaporizer. Different strokes for different folks. They (the vaporizers) appeal differently to each one of us. We don't all drive the same car. We don't all drive the same vaporizer. And, as @ataxian points out so well, the vaporizer is just a means to deliver the goods, the goods being the most important variable in the equation.
 

Gonzo

Slightly Stoopid
Until I read about it here I never would have thought it was a big deal. It has no effect on function. If you can type a post on this forum you can pick it up. It's not that big a deal. lol

This is my last post about it though. If you all want to go on and on about it then go ahead. I'll be using my mighty and don't care anymore. :D


I didn't even notice until I read it here either. Seems like everyone with gripes are people who don't own it. So far, I don't remember seeing a member here who owns it having any complaints. The whole things seems pretty easy to use IMO.
 

elmomuzz

That just happened...
And why it is good to remember there is no one best vaporizer. Different strokes for different folks. They (the vaporizers) appeal differently to each one of us. We don't all drive the same car. We don't all drive the same vaporizer. And, as @ataxian points out so well, the vaporizer is just a means to deliver the goods, the goods being the most important variable in the equation.

No lie. You don't see such a fuss over crack pipes or heroin rigs. haha

All hail the gods oops I mean goods!
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
It's not that big a deal. lol

While it may not be a big deal to YOU, it very well "could" be a deal breaker for someone else. Your "lol" comment is a bit condescending, which seems to be happening quite a bit in this thread.

I suggest that people here step back a bit and take a look at this product, not only through your eyes, but through the eyes of others who may express a concern that you may not share and maybe some empathy and understanding will take place rather than trying to invalidate someone just because they are expressing a concern that is not on your radar.

(Fuck me, I'm not a mod. What in the hell am I doing? :shrug:)
 
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Gonzo

Slightly Stoopid
While it may not be a big deal to YOU, it very well "could" be a deal breaker for someone else. Your "lol" comment is a bit condescending, which seems to be happening quite a bit in this thread.

I suggest that people here step back a bit and take a look at this product, not only from your eyes, but through the eyes of others who may express a concern that you may not share.

(Fuck me, I'm not a mod. What in the hell am I doing? :shrug:)

If standing is a deal breaker the Crafty has the ability to stand.
 

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
If standing is a deal breaker the Crafty has the ability to stand.
Doesn't sound very stable to me and it leans. I also noticed that even laying down on its back it still rocks and rolls around a bit. I don't want to worry about it falling over. Once again, I am not griping. I do not want to spend $500 on a vape only to find out after I get it that there is something I don't like that with some forethought could have been avoided or pointed me in a better direction, for me.
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Doesn't sound very stable to me and it leans. I also noticed that even laying down on its back it still rocks and rolls around a bit. I don't want to worry about it falling over. Once again, I am not griping. I do not want to spend $500 on a vape only to find out after I get it that there is something I don't like that with some forethought could have been avoided or pointed me in a better direction, for me.
That's why we're here: to explore, discuss, debate, consider, decide. Always a good course of action prior to making a purchase, and after as well. We're not griping at all.
 

mestizo

Well-Known Member
Me too. I'm trying to wrap my brain around these new portables. Seems to me for the $$$ involved the Mighty should stand up like the Crafty does. That combined with the huge wall-wart makes me lean towards Crafty.
Maybe the reason the Mighty won't stand, is because if it falls on its side it might damage the LCD screen?
And since the Crafty doesn't have one is the reason it can stand?
 
mestizo,

t-dub

Vapor Sloth
Maybe the reason the Mighty won't stand, is because if it falls on its side it might damage the LCD screen?
And since the Crafty doesn't have one is the reason it can stand?
Thats entirely possible, I don't claim to understand the motives behind the design, however, protecting the screen can be accomplished in better ways than making the vape non-standing. The screen could be recessed for instance with protective "framing" integrated into the case design or transparently covered in some way. Flexible screens are available now I believe . . .
 

mestizo

Well-Known Member
Thats entirely possible, I don't claim to understand the motives behind the design, however, protecting the screen can be accomplished in better ways than making the vape non-standing. The screen could be recessed for instance with protective "framing" integrated into the case design.
I totally agree.
 
mestizo,

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Thats entirely possible, I don't claim to understand the motives behind the design, however, protecting the screen can be accomplished in better ways than making the vape non-standing. The screen could be recessed for instance with protective "framing" integrated into the case design.
If the screen were at the top of the unit, a tip over from bottom-to-top might damage it. But since the screen is located at the bottom 1/3rd, the impact would likely not jar the glass(?) hard enough to cause damage, IME.
 

Bill Densoyle

Well-Known Member
I think it would have been nice if the set temperature was green instead of white on the LED display, like the Volcano Digit.

The Instructions For Use mentions that when charging, you are supposed to first plug in the charger to the device, then connect the charger to the electrical outlet. And it says you are supposed to unplug the device from the charger first, then unplug the charger from the wall outlet. I noticed it takes like 5-10 seconds for the green LED on the charger to stop shining after you unplug it. It, the charger, is stated to be a medical grade device made in China.

What do you make of that?
 
Bill Densoyle,

Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
I'd love to help make a stand - if anyone with access to digital calipers and a camera is willing to help, I may be able to design a basic stand from that information (otherwise, I'd need access to a Mighty so I can 3D scan it, which I doubt anyone would be willing to lend me given how new the device is!)

If you think you can help - please PM me, I'm always up for a challenge!
 
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