Florida needs your help.

His_Highness said:

I don't remember where I read it but I believe both Rick Scott and Charlie Christ support Amend 2 and I hope that's the case because if this is split down party lines we're going to need all the four leaf clovers and comic relief associates we can find.

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Rick Scott is NOT for Amendment #2, no matter what you think you may have read. Both the Gov and AG need to go, in Florida. Scott is Adelson's puppet. It is deplorable, imo, that someone who doesn't reside here can come in and throw millions around to the groveling, whoring, GOP, in an attempt to sway our politics.

Fuck Publix, Fuck the Semblers(mel and betty, Google "Straight inc" to learn more about these child abusers who robbed the taxpayers in the name of drug treatment), and big Fuck You to Calvina Fay and Drug Free America.

Only roughly $600,000 of No On 2's funds have come from "the people", the other $4,000,000+ has come from a seriously small group, Mel Sembler(former US ambASSador to italy), Sheldon Adelson, and the sea-Unts who own Publix. Big pharma money, gambling, and alcohol money blatantly lying to the voters in an effort to sway the vote. Again, the overwhelming support for Yes On #2 shown at the early voting polls says Floridians will not be fooled!!!

YES ON #2!!!!!! For the Patients, For the People!!


We are going to pass this or I will have a heart attack trying. I am normally a little high strung, but these last 2 weeks with all the lies in tv/radio ads, I am at like a constant Hulk level enraged, which is helping to fuel my 6-12 hour shifts at the polls/ waving signs at intersections but probably not to good for my ticker lol


PS-- the Charlottes Web bill passed which the liars are using to say, "See, Florida already has MMJ(maximum amt of people who suffer from those type of seizures to be helped is around only 100,000), Yes on #2, just wants to sit around and smoke joints." Seriously sheriff association head Bob Guialteri actually said that at the last debate, almost verbatim.
Don't be fooled to think that bill has helped anyone yet, or will be able to help the rest of us that need/want access to mmj.

Silver420Surfer said:

Rick Scott is NOT for Amendment #2, no matter what you think you may have read. Both the Gov and AG need to go, in Florida. Scott is Adelson's puppet. It is deplorable, imo, that someone who doesn't reside here can come in and throw millions around to the groveling, whoring, GOP, in an attempt to sway our politics.

YES ON #2!!!!!! For the Patients, For the People!!

We are going to pass this or I will have a heart attack trying. I am normally a little high strung, but these last 2 weeks with all the lies in tv/radio ads, I am at like a constant Hulk level enraged, which is helping to fuel my 6-12 hour shifts at the polls/ waving signs at intersections but probably not to good for my ticker lol.

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Silver - I applaud your passion.

@His_Highness --- Thank you

Same lies in my state (ak), the opposition is so fearful of this plant that they immediately surrender the moral high ground by spewing nothing but falsehoods. It's also #2, just called a ballot proposition rather than an amendment. Politics in america are fucked; in 2006 illinois passed the first voter suppression (id) bill and now they have these type of restrictions in over 30 states. But oregon otoh is the shining light, the only way they can vote is by mail (only state like this in the usa). Because of this they have the highest voter participation, and the best mj decriminalization bill in the usa (they already have the best mmj laws). They will show the rest of us how it's done when their bill passes; many states don't even allow voting by mail.

No negative effect of using marijuana can ever be as bad on the individual as incarceration will be. I heard that said in the Culture High docu, never heard it stated that way. Very chilling when you look at it this way.

Let's go Alaska!!! Pulling for you guys as well as Oregon!!

Even if it passes up here, I have a feeling that we will stumble out of the gate much like washington because we are also turning it over to the corrupt abc liquor board for regulation. Oregon will do it even better than colorado, which is great because colorado is doing a great job with this so far (even if their guv regrets it).

grokit said:

only way they can vote is by mail (only state like this in the usa). Because of this they have the highest voter participation, and the best mj decriminalization bill in the usa (they already have the best mmj laws)

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In Washington state we also vote by mail. The voters got the Medical Marijuana and the legal recreational referendums on the ballot for us in the state to vote. I understand a lot of other states don't have that provision any longer.

Agree I like Oregon's recreational bill for cannabis better than Washington's. I haven't set foot in a recreational store as of yet. I have a medical cert so I go to a mmj dispensary.

Good luck Florida. I hope the extreme right wing Christian conservatives don't scare everybody into voting against it. The lies and the miss information that they spew to the public are unchristian like.

CarolKing said:

In Washington state we also vote by mail. The voters got the Medical Marijuana and the legal recreational on the ballot for us in the state to vote. I understand a lot of other states don't have that provision any longer.

Agree I like Oregon's recreational bill for cannabis better than Washington's. I haven't set foot in a recreational store as of yet. I have a medical cert so I go to a mmj dispensary.

Good luck Florida. I hope the extreme right wing Christian conservatives don't scare everybody into voting against it. The lies and the miss information that they spew to the public are unchristian like.

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I mailed my ballot today as well. I was mistaken that oregon was the only one where voting by mail is the only option, it's like that in two other states -- washington and colorado (hmm...):


I like how the coolest states are in green

Most states offer both, and they are split pretty evenly between states where you can set up permanent absentee status, and states that require that you periodically renew this (may be better 'cause people die). And there's a significant minority of states that do not allow absentee voting (by mail) at all (purple) except for overseas military. The white states(!) are the worst, they do not permit early voting in any form.

I think I have that^ right, here's a link to the wiki page which has interesting comparisons to other countries as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absentee_ballot


If the lack of uniformity regarding absentee status and id laws aren't problematic enough, consider:

Why does Florida need 60% of the vote to amend their constitution you ask. Here's why:

Florida's constitution of 1968 allows citizens to amend the constitution by initiative. The initiative provision was first put to use in 1976, when voters adopted an amendment sponsored by Governor Ruben Askew requiring public disclosure of campaign contributions. During the period 1968-2006, voters over 80 percent of initiated amendments, the highest approval rate among active states. Most amendments have been placed on the ballot by the legislature -- of the 110 amendments approved through 2006, 22 were initiatives and 88 were legislative measures.


The state legislature and courts have frequently sought to curtail citizen lawmaking. In response to passage of the first initiative in 1976, the legislature approved bills that banned the collection of signatures at polling places, and imposed a 10-cent-per-signature "verification fee" on submitted petitions.


In 2000, environmentalists won a major victory with passage of an initiative mandating creation of a high-speed rail system capable of speeds in excess of 120 miles per hour, and in 2002 voters approved a constitutional amendment guaranteeing a minimum living space for pregnant pigs, an amendment that was ridiculed by some officials as trivializing the constitution. Unhappy with these amendments, in 2003 Governor Jeb Bush vetoed funding for the high speed rail project and in 2004 led a successful initiative campaign to repeal the high-speed amendment. In 2006 the legislature placed an amendment on the ballot requiring a 60 percent affirmative vote to approve initiated constitutional amendments. With the passage of the 60-percent majority amendment, Florida became one of only two states in the nation to require a supermajority for constitutional amendments, and the only initiative state with such a requirement.


In recent years, state courts have been very aggressive enforcing the single subject rule, striking several measures from the ballot after signatures had already been collected.

Silver420Surfer said:

Why does Florida need 60% of the vote to amend their constitution you ask. Here's why:

Florida's constitution of 1968 allows citizens to amend the constitution by initiative. The initiative provision was first put to use in 1976, when voters adopted an amendment sponsored by Governor Ruben Askew requiring public disclosure of campaign contributions. During the period 1968-2006, voters over 80 percent of initiated amendments, the highest approval rate among active states. Most amendments have been placed on the ballot by the legislature -- of the 110 amendments approved through 2006, 22 were initiatives and 88 were legislative measures.


The state legislature and courts have frequently sought to curtail citizen lawmaking. In response to passage of the first initiative in 1976, the legislature approved bills that banned the collection of signatures at polling places, and imposed a 10-cent-per-signature "verification fee" on submitted petitions.


In 2000, environmentalists won a major victory with passage of an initiative mandating creation of a high-speed rail system capable of speeds in excess of 120 miles per hour, and in 2002 voters approved a constitutional amendment guaranteeing a minimum living space for pregnant pigs, an amendment that was ridiculed by some officials as trivializing the constitution. Unhappy with these amendments, in 2003 Governor Jeb Bush vetoed funding for the high speed rail project and in 2004 led a successful initiative campaign to repeal the high-speed amendment. In 2006 the legislature placed an amendment on the ballot requiring a 60 percent affirmative vote to approve initiated constitutional amendments. With the passage of the 60-percent majority amendment, Florida became one of only two states in the nation to require a supermajority for constitutional amendments, and the only initiative state with such a requirement.


In recent years, state courts have been very aggressive enforcing the single subject rule, striking several measures from the ballot after signatures had already been collected.

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Thank you Jeb Bush for fucking the rights of the people. Oh, and fuck you for endorsing Voldemort too. (I know, wrong thread, but appropriate nonetheless)

Friend of mine is a local musician and this is his Yeson2 song.

All we can do is vote. Please all...they've made it so easy to vote in FL. You can even have a ballot sent to your home and mail it back - no postage required. Not sure if it's too late for absentee ballots, but there is also early voting. Amendment 2 is going to be a lot closer that everybody predicted. I agree with several posts above as there have been "scare" ads all over the TV filled with statements that I don't believe to be true/accurate. These ads have likely been pretty effective in freaking out some folks that previously thought MMJ would be a good thing.

What it's going to come down to is (IMHO)...voter turnout. If it's high turnout, there's a chance 2 passes. If not, this chance may be lost.

Please vote.

That may be the biggest problem...getting the High to turnout...not just burnout.

Here's an article published 10/24 that I think really covers the topic in an unbiased way. There are some 'facts' that I had not considered that really opened my eyes further. Of course there is still the 'there are none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE' aspect that will undoubtedly have some readers calling the contents lies by holding their own lies up as the truth in rebuttal. Good read on all the locations voting.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ju...marijuana-legal-2014-10-24?link=mw_home_kiosk

DieHard said:

That may be the biggest problem...getting the High to turnout...not just burnout.

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That's why Yes On #2 vols have been out for months, signing up people to request an absentee ballot. We know it's a hard group to count on voting, so we tried to make it easier for them to vote. Open mailbox, see you ballot, fill it out, return by mail or at polling place.

I believe it was a similar strategy used by Obama's campaign, the importance of absentee ballots.

Recently, television stations have been airing an ad from anti-medical marijuana group No on 2 titled "It's Nuts." The ad claims, among other things, that voting yes on Amendment 2 will legalize pot and that kids will be able to get weed on their own "without their parents' permission."


In response, United for Care has sent a cease-and-desist letter to every television station that is broadcasting the ad, claiming the 30 second ad is misleading and false. Federal law says that the FCC has the responsibility to prevent commercials that spew illegitimate claims from airing.

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Let's support these states with cannabis medical or otherwise on the ballots next Tues. Get out and vote.

One thing many Floridians may not be aware of. A large portion of the opposition("No On #2) are SCIENTOLOGISTS. I would not mention if they were any other true religion, that would not matter to me. But these crazy people are just lying, lying, lying to spread their own agenda. From what i have read, they do not believe in any drugs(except alcohol and tobacco) and reject much medical treatment. We are battling them daily in Clearwater FL. They keep stealing our "Yes On #2" signs out of the ground, are VERY beligerent(watch how they are in the myriad of YouTube videos out there towards people they don't like or disagree with), and love to holler that, "Stoners don't vote", "Potheads are losers", and to our volunteers,they politely wished us to "get cancer".

These are the people who wish to deny millions of Floridians the right to choose medical marijuana for themselves or loved ones.

Please spread this around if you could: http://www.tampabay.com/news/scient...ader-miscavige-arrested-for-marijuana/2129224

It seems its ok for the head of Scientology's SISTER, Denise Gentile Miscavage, to use marijuana and other drugs, just not the Floridians who truly need it.
A big FUCK YOU to Xenu, their ALIEN GOD!!!!! I hope he/she/it gets space ebola!!

I can't stand people who butt their noses into other people's business and tell them what they should and should not do with their lives, especially when they are hypocrites. They are usually nasty fuckers too, just like the people you are describing. If I caught them stealing a sign, it would be hard for me not to punch them in the face because this is so personal for me.

At the very least, I would snap a ton of pictures of them doing it. I would also snap pictures of them at their car and their license plate since they were doing an illegal thing. (If I could catch them at their car) If they laid one finger on me, they would be very sorry. I may be frail and sick, but I still have fight left in me. I'm having a hard time holding my tongue too when it comes to rude people.

For example, was at the grocery store the other day, in line again. The woman in front of me was on her cell phone, chit chatting about her latest manicure, and NOT putting her shit on the conveyor belt, holding up the whole line. I was in a lot of pain, so I let loose on her, "Can you please get off your phone, get your stuff up there and pay? You're holding up the line and it's rude."

Her reply, "Wow, someone really has some issues." My reply back, "yes, I have issues with rude assholes like you that think the world revolves around them! Now get off your phone and check out so we all can do the same, you selfish bitch!" She immediately hung up and got her shit up there really quick, paid quickly too. I must have scared her, LOL The people behind me just smiled. I was only saying what everyone else was thinking and didn't say. I just don't care anymore. I'm sick of these rude fucks.

for those in Oregon, it is MUCH closer now than it was even last week. looks like it is going to be a very tight race.

grokit said:

Just make signs that say:

VOTE YES ON #2
BECAUSE
SCIENTOLOGY
DOESN'T WANT YOU TO!

Slam-dunk ​

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I shouldn't like this. It is massively politically incorrect. Yet...it made me almost pee myself I laughed so freakin' hard!

When Washington state had the recreational marijuana bill on the ballot, they did exactly the same thing. They said that kids would be able to get cannabis without their parents permission. This is so absurd to the point of ridiculous. It is really pathetic. Plenty of stupid people and elderly that would believe it though.

That actress looks familiar in the above pictured add.

@grokit --I will do just that this weekend. Sat and Sun, in front of the courthouse in the city of lovely Clearwater, shall be seen, at minimum one sign that says just that. I effing love it!!! Quite possibly 2 bull horns to make sure they can't shout us out, are on their way as well.

FWIW, in the 727, at the early poll places, vocal support of voters going in and out, is much greater than the "latest polls". Each volunteer is reporting very overwhelmingly positive results, so far. Are they 90% like one of our polls this summer showed, no. But, much greater than the 51% some media are reporting.
This is all based on people at the polls expressing their votes to volunteers. It seems each side of this issue likes to let you know where they stand, either before they vote, or after. Friends, I had a half dozen officers of the same city mentioned above, make it a point to voice a YES ON #2 vote to me as they passed. I, shit you not, I had goose-bumps all over my arms each time. Incredible!!

Keep it up Florida, we are now trending upwards and we must get the 60% to pass this thing!!
It's far from over, but keep your heads and hearts up!!!

While I wish Florida's medical population all the luck in the world, I would not get my hopes up too high. 60% is a VERY high bar to achieve. No voter initiative concerning medical or recreational cannabis has ever reached it...or ever had to. The unknown element is, as usual, the undecided voters. Unfortunately, they tend to vote heavily with the status quo. Perhaps in 2016, but I just don't see it happening this election cycle. I REALLY hope I'm wrong.