juconha

New Member
Created an account only to confirm what everyone's saying about it's "polycarbonate" shell: it's hard and won't even get a mark from most drops!

A friend once stepped on mine's cord - pulling it to the floor from a shelve, faster than what'd be a simple fall; I imagined it'd be destroyed but picked it up intact, no harm. Impressive.

Another thing: mine is 110v. On a hotel, I once plugged it on a 220v outlet (without knowing, of course). I just realized something was wrong while reading the dial: it was the first time I saw it over 420 (the dial went until the L of the word BICKEL, super hot haha). Turned off it immediately...smelled a bit burnt. I almost cried. But then found a 110v on the place, plugged it in, simply worked no problem, it's working until now, as new.

I've never cleaned it (coil's a bit dirty though, I don't mind but have a replacement ready). Had 1st screen changed after 3 months (the one next to the coil). I usually try to clean the screens right after use, when it's still a bit hot. The other screen was never replaced (the base of the herb chamber). 5 months, daily use.

From what I understand you should grind it as thin as possible (larger contact area for extraction).
 

Curiousone

Well-Known Member
plenty still going strong...about 8 months old and holding on like a champ. can't see a need for another home unit until this thing dies!!!

my only complaint is that the damn decal keeps falling off . S&B sent a new one after i messaged them and the new one won't stay on either. Whatever though...a great unit. minus the decal, it looks even more like a tool...
 
Curiousone,

Fahrenheit450

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,

Longtime vaper here looking to get a premium "flagship" desktop vape. Here's my vape purchasing history:

Wooden VaporGenie -> Glass VaporGenie -> Extreme Q -> Ploom Pax

The Extreme has been my primary vape for a long time, and I absolutely adore it. It has gotten myself and innumerable friends + guests well-medicated on more occasions than I can remember.

However, once I got the Pax, I started to realize that my Extreme really doesn't vape my herbs that thoroughly. That the Pax cooks the plant matter to a darker brown color in less time, producing vapor every step of the way until the material in the chamber is completely cashed. Even if I work a bowl to 230 deg C and beyond on the Extreme, it doesn't keep producing vapor and it never quite gets the material as brown as the Pax does.

I might be mistaking "hot burny temperature" with "vape quality" in this regards...but I can't help but think I'm not. While the Extreme gets great reviews across the board, there seem to be many other premium plugin vapes that go farther and get higher reviews online. I want to buy a new plugin vape that will be a straight *upgrade* over the Extreme (in terms of vapor quality), and not just a side-grade / slight improvement.

I have been considering the Plenty for a while now, and I see a lot of great reviews for it. I'm not going to lie: I WANT this german engineered powertool looking contraption. However, it seems to only have a max temp of ~215 degrees C. I also see that the Epic E-Nano vape supposedly has a max temp of ~290 degrees C, gets a lot of great reviews, and is more than $100 cheaper than the Plenty. Would I be better off with a vape like the Nano when considering my upgrade criteria (better vapor quality than the Extreme, while not costing me 4-500+ dollars like the Cloud EVO or Volcano)?

I would appreciate any input here, especially from vapers who have used the models I have listed and can compare them.
 
Fahrenheit450,
Hello everyone,

Longtime vaper here looking to get a premium "flagship" desktop vape. Here's my vape purchasing history:

Wooden VaporGenie -> Glass VaporGenie -> Extreme Q -> Ploom Pax

The Extreme has been my primary vape for a long time, and I absolutely adore it. It has gotten myself and innumerable friends + guests well-medicated on more occasions than I can remember.

However, once I got the Pax, I started to realize that my Extreme really doesn't vape my herbs that thoroughly. That the Pax cooks the plant matter to a darker brown color in less time, producing vapor every step of the way until the material in the chamber is completely cashed. Even if I work a bowl to 230 deg C and beyond on the Extreme, it doesn't keep producing vapor and it never quite gets the material as brown as the Pax does.

I might be mistaking "hot burny temperature" with "vape quality" in this regards...but I can't help but think I'm not. While the Extreme gets great reviews across the board, there seem to be many other premium plugin vapes that go farther and get higher reviews online. I want to buy a new plugin vape that will be a straight *upgrade* over the Extreme (in terms of vapor quality), and not just a side-grade / slight improvement.

I have been considering the Plenty for a while now, and I see a lot of great reviews for it. I'm not going to lie: I WANT this german engineered powertool looking contraption. However, it seems to only have a max temp of ~215 degrees C. I also see that the Epic E-Nano vape supposedly has a max temp of ~290 degrees C, gets a lot of great reviews, and is more than $100 cheaper than the Plenty. Would I be better off with a vape like the Nano when considering my upgrade criteria (better vapor quality than the Extreme, while not costing me 4-500+ dollars like the Cloud EVO or Volcano)?

I would appreciate any input here, especially from vapers who have used the models I have listed and can compare them.
I went from the Plenty to using an Enano as my daily driver. They are both great vapes. I prefer the Enano. It is cheaper, more versatile, more efficient and I believe it produces superior vapor. However, the Plenty is also a beast. If you plan on sharing with friends it is well suited to passing around and the chamber is huge. Im most likely going to sell my Plenty soon as I just dont use it often enough.
 

Curiousone

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,

Longtime vaper here looking to get a premium "flagship" desktop vape. Here's my vape purchasing history:

Wooden VaporGenie -> Glass VaporGenie -> Extreme Q -> Ploom Pax

The Extreme has been my primary vape for a long time, and I absolutely adore it. It has gotten myself and innumerable friends + guests well-medicated on more occasions than I can remember.

However, once I got the Pax, I started to realize that my Extreme really doesn't vape my herbs that thoroughly. That the Pax cooks the plant matter to a darker brown color in less time, producing vapor every step of the way until the material in the chamber is completely cashed. Even if I work a bowl to 230 deg C and beyond on the Extreme, it doesn't keep producing vapor and it never quite gets the material as brown as the Pax does.

I might be mistaking "hot burny temperature" with "vape quality" in this regards...but I can't help but think I'm not. While the Extreme gets great reviews across the board, there seem to be many other premium plugin vapes that go farther and get higher reviews online. I want to buy a new plugin vape that will be a straight *upgrade* over the Extreme (in terms of vapor quality), and not just a side-grade / slight improvement.

I have been considering the Plenty for a while now, and I see a lot of great reviews for it. I'm not going to lie: I WANT this german engineered powertool looking contraption. However, it seems to only have a max temp of ~215 degrees C. I also see that the Epic E-Nano vape supposedly has a max temp of ~290 degrees C, gets a lot of great reviews, and is more than $100 cheaper than the Plenty. Would I be better off with a vape like the Nano when considering my upgrade criteria (better vapor quality than the Extreme, while not costing me 4-500+ dollars like the Cloud EVO or Volcano)?

I would appreciate any input here, especially from vapers who have used the models I have listed and can compare them.

First, I own the Pax and the Plenty. I must say that I absolutely love my Plenty and see no need for a new desktop for years to come...however, the Plenty does not cook the material darker than the Pax. In fact, there is a big difference in terms of color of spent material. Still, the Plenty is very much a top-shelf device. I personally can't suggest it over the ENano since I was faced with the same decision. I will say that my friend who owns a Volcano wants to sell it for a Plenty. He was the one who introduced me to vaping over five years ago with his Volcano classic ($700 then)!

For me, using a glass wand or long whip was a deal breaker, so the Plenty was my main option (Ed wasn't making Enano stems at that time). It has worked out great for me. Also, I tend to share with friends who are heavy weights like me...so again, no better unit for this task. I have converted many a combuster with the Plenty.

If you are alone a lot and not a heavy user, I think the ENANO is probably a better choice. The Plenty is expensive...but it well-designed and just simply works time after time. It is tough too (taken several hard falls with no scratch, dent or effect to function)
 
Curiousone,

cityslang

A taste on the tongue
@Fahrenheit450

According the their website technical page the plenty only goes to 202C.

I do find the very low draw resistance a bit odd and although it takes about 3 times the load of my Lotus I don't feel 3 times as medicated
 
cityslang,

Fahrenheit450

Well-Known Member
@Mr. Gweilo 420

Thanks for the input. I want the Plenty, but reading about all of these different log-style vapes seriously has me intrigued. I will definitely consider the Nano.

@Curiousone
Thanks for chiming in...so it sounds like the Pax might scorch the material a bit more than other vapes do. I see the same thing: vaped remains from my Extreme Q are waay lighter than the browned remains from my Pax. I've got a decently high tolerance too and the Plenty looks lovely...but on the other hand, I am afraid of dropping ~$350 on something that only works slightly better than my existing vapes.

@cityslang
Thanks for the clarification about the temps. The VapeCritic dude on YouTube mentioned that his Plenty only goes up to ~390-395 F...so t looks like I was mislead by the clever max temp on the Plenty's temperature gauge.

I think I might fundamentally misunderstand vapes...it's not just the max temp that produces good vapor quality, and the browness of the material doesn't necessarily imply how high it got you. Well...I say that, but on the other hand, one of my first vaping experiences was getting completely droolingly wrecked on a friend's knockoff vapor brothers box-style vape, and it browned the material pretty thoroughly (and he accidentally combusted by turning it up too high a couple of times). It's not just max temperature that produces the best vapor quality, right?

I'm missing something here. What qualities in a vaporizer, in your experience, produce the highest quality vapor? I'm not trying to start a flamewar about which brand or model are the best...I just want to know what attributes I should be considering in my quest for that Maybach desktop vape that will put my beloved Extreme to shame. (I know, I know...everyone loves the Volcano...I just don't want to spend *that* much $$$).
 
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Fahrenheit450,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
I think I might fundamentally misunderstand vapes...it's not just the max temp that produces good vapor quality, and the browness of the material doesn't necessarily imply how high it got you. Well...I say that, but on the other hand, one of my first vaping experiences was getting completely droolingly wrecked on a friend's knockoff vapor brothers box-style vape, and it browned the material pretty thoroughly (and he accidentally combusted by turning it up too high a couple of times). It's not just max temperature that produces the best vapor quality, right?

I'm missing something here. What qualities in a vaporizer, in your experience, produce the highest quality vapor? I'm not trying to start a flamewar about which brand or model are the best...I just want to know what attributes I should be considering in my quest for that Maybach desktop vape that will put my beloved Extreme to shame. (I know, I know...everyone loves the Volcano...I just don't want to spend *that* much $$$).
Your questions, while certainly valid, do not belong in the Plenty thread. Feel free to post them in Ask FC if you like, but let's keep the discussion here about the Plenty.

Thanks!

:peace:
 

Caelar900

Well-Known Member
This vape produces some of the best tasting and biggest clouds of any vape I've owned. Sure its not the best of the best at either of those, my cloud produces bigger clouds, my nano is better tasting but it does both very well, and thats something that can't be said for most vaporizers, not to mention this thing knocks me off my ass every time I use it. I don't understand the lack of love it gets, sure it uses a lot of product, and its a bit expensive but I don't think that takes away from the vape itself. The feeling of opening up the chamber after a session and seeing a full gram of perfectly vaped bud is one of the best feelings in the world. LONG LIVE THE PLENTY. :rockon:
 

Curiousone

Well-Known Member
I use .2-.3 g most of the time...with no problem. Not difficult to use less, it's just that one CAN use a lot more...

And yes it is an awesome vape
 
Curiousone,

cityslang

A taste on the tongue
I tried smaller loads with the wet pad but it didn't seem too successful. I find even small loads work Ok without the pad.

I did think putting the load on top of the wet pad might be an option anyone tried it.
 
cityslang,

Caelar900

Well-Known Member
I often use less, and whole i find it stool works well, for the best results I still think you should fill it.
 
Caelar900,

Pjake

It's all in the reflexes.
I own a Plenty/Crafty/Pax/MFLB

I see a lot of posts about the lack of conservation issue with the Plenty. It's a great vape. Works amazing. However I do agree that it goes through material rather quickly. Because of this I started using my pax more. But I missed the big rips of the plenty. Enter the crafty. If you love your plenty but feel like your using to much material when you solo vape, I recomend the crafty. Plenty style rips. Pax style conservation.
 

QualityVapes

Active Member
I own a Plenty/Crafty/Pax/MFLB

I see a lot of posts about the lack of conservation issue with the Plenty. It's a great vape. Works amazing. However I do agree that it goes through material rather quickly. Because of this I started using my pax more. But I missed the big rips of the plenty. Enter the crafty. If you love your plenty but feel like your using to much material when you solo vape, I recomend the crafty. Plenty style rips. Pax style conservation.

I sold my Plenty and Pax to buy a Herbalizer (on sale) because I was frustrated that I had to choose between quality vapor vs conserving my stash. I love the Herbie and it is more conservative than the Plenty with a lot better vapor quality than the Pax. But after I recieved my Herbalizer the Crafty was released the very next day.

I'm seriously thinking about selling my Herbie and buying a used Plenty with a new wear and tear kit for it and a new Crafty. I'm thinking the Crafty can be my daily driver/portable and the Plenty can be my heavy hitter. I can see how the Herbie's vapor can be described as better quality but it doesn't have that hard hitting quality that each hit of the Plenty delivers.

Does the Crafty really produce that type of vapor while using less material? Does it feel like its built as durable as the Plenty? And now that you have the Crafty do you think you'll still use your Plenty on occasion?
 
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Pjake

It's all in the reflexes.
I'll still use the plenty if I'm at home and with someone. It has a far bigger chamber for the material. But the crafty is my favorite solo vape so far. As far as the vapor is concerned...100% on par with the plenty imo. Plenty is awesome just a bit of a beast for me when I'm solo.
 

Bill Densoyle

Well-Known Member
Hi, First time poster, just joined to share my two cents on this Plenty vape I just bought today...

So my background with vapes...

I've owned 2 Extreme Qs (1 broke) and loved it. For a while I packed the regular bowl, being a complete rookie, then I learned to pack the elbow instead and later on I bought myself a coffee grinder and packing became as simple as scooping out a bowl from the grinder. I had tried a Volcano and loved the taste + consistency of vapor but did not like bagging it up. I'm not a fan of bags as I'm an avid PC gamer and would rather hit on a whip, not a bag while I game. I also own a MFLB and a Davinci, of which I'm very satisfied with the latter (though it will probably soon be replaced by an Inhalator). Anyway...

My career is finally coming to fruition and having found myself with enough funds saved up, I decided to buy a new vape. When I started seeing reviews on the Plenty vape, I was sold.

So, I bought it today and its damn sexy. Couple of things:

1. Nice circular, wide, shallow bowl (~1 and 2/3 inch diameter, 2/3 inch deep). However, it's huge. That means you better have enough to pack huge bowls or get used to using the liquid pad. I sit on anywhere from 2-4oz at any given time, so I pack the whole bowl. Lasts me over an hour, probably two, roughly 50 hits.

2.Bowl and mouthpiece connections VERY easy to use. Just twist open and close. Nowhere for stray cannabis to fall into and gunk up while packing.

3. Very fine mesh screens on both sides of bowl, so I'm able to grind the greens up very finely in coffee grinder.

4. Mouthpiece fits perfectly in mouth. No fidgeting to get the "perfect vacuum effect" for nice, thick vapor. It is removable from stainless steal coil, which affords modding opportunities. I'm considering attaching a plastic whip to make it more like a desktop vape, or to connect it to a water pipe.

5. Taste is amazing from the very beginning to end.

6. Takes about 2 min to fire up in the beginning, automatic shut off, will slowly cool of while idle until you hit the trigger again, it will heat up to your desired temp then turn off again, and then slowly cools off. You can hit the whole temperature spectrum. 90 second cycle until you can turn it back on.

7. Long cable for my purposes. I think 6 or 7 feet. Plug has a ground prong, so make sure you have an outlet you can connect it to.

8. The side that doesn't have power button and temp dial has three sturdy, little rubber footpads. Very underrated but awesome benefit, especially if your considering the possibility of converting this into a desktop vape.

Let's put it this way. I rarely ever share my opinion or experience, but I felt this was definitely worth it. I've had a lot of experience vaping and this has been my best experience so far. Absolutely in love with this device and will probably be my favorite vape for a long time to come. My Extreme Q sits in on the side now permanently, in utter shame, having served me well, but not coming near the vapor quality of the Plenty.

Edit: Oh, I should add, if it's no blatantly clear, that YES I have a high tolerance but I ALSO experience increasing intensity of medication the more I consume, with slight diminishing returns, and I stay medicated during almost all of my recreational time (which is basically whenever I'm not working).

Thanks for the informative post. Just wanted to mention, using a blade coffee grinder is not a very great method of grinding. It may be easy, but the heat from the blades rapid spinning can cause degradation of active herbal compounds. There is such a thing as a conical burr grinder for coffee, which functions without heat like the cheaper blade grinders, and perhaps it could work with properly dried herbs too.
 
Bill Densoyle,
Hey guys, I own a Plenty, have for a couple years and love it. I was surprised to see issues with small loads that some users are having. Whenever I use my Plenty with a small load, I just use enough to cover the screen with a light layer and add the pad on top. Never had an issue. I like to use a finer grind on my herbs, not dust but fine for the plenty as well as my EVO.

I find it to be very efficient if you keep the grind fine and add the pad. Shame to see some users ditch such a great vape because they are using too much.
 

Bill Densoyle

Well-Known Member
As far as the subject of why the Plenty discussion board gets so few posts, I think I am not alone in being a Volcano user who originally over-looked the Plenty due to its non-portability. I don't mind using bags, and I failed to recognize other positive attribute of the Plenty, that I learned by reading this forum discussion, which is that it can rapidly vaporize plenty of material in a group setting with ease.

I think many other Volcano aficionados who mostly don't have accounts on FC also may have initially over-looked the Plenty, like me. Now with the release of the Mighty and the Crafty, I was compelled to re-visit some of my assumptions about the function of the Plenty, and having learned more it is a much more interesting and appealing device, to me.

I think S&B is gonna see an increase of Plenty sales just in virtue of increasing awarenesses among the S&B customer base. I mean, there was and is a learning curve where it took people time to start using the Volcano. I think people may be just a little slower to catch on to the Plenty.

I consider S&B to be a highly stand up company, and I doubt they have ever paid a shill or troll to post anything on any public forum. The disparagement of S&B products or more often S&B customer service and warranty coverage that I have read on the various S&B boards on FC(and I read them all now except for Volcano) seems to come from folks who are not users of the products.

I see it as fairly polarized, perhaps because lots of members in the FC community have spent many hours discussing the merits of all the OTHER vaporizers, while in reality S&B mostly is a light-year ahead of all the competition. "in my opinion" and its also my opinion that its simply factual.
 
Nice! I have to get the Crafty. Thanks.
I would say vapor is comparable to the Crafty but the Plenty is just better. The flavor and vapor quality is top tier. Flavor from the Plenty for me is hard to beat. I love them both but the Plenty is a step ahead of the portables. If I could pick one, I'd go Plenty if portability is not an issue.
 
VapesofWrath,

mestizo

Well-Known Member
in reality S&B mostly is a light-year ahead of all the competition. "in my opinion" and its also my opinion that its simply factual.
I disagree, and that's because there are so many medical needs that S&B products didn't cover, but they just got closer getting into the portable market, and price hasn't been an issue here since there are vapes that cost more than the S&B ones.
Up until the portables where released the first two where herb hogs, something some members here feel is unacceptable, or a deal breaker.
 
mestizo,

Bill Densoyle

Well-Known Member
I disagree, and that's because there are so many medical needs that S&B products didn't cover, but they just got closer getting into the portable market, and price hasn't been an issue here since there are vapes that cost more than the S&B ones.
Up until the portables where released the first two where herb hogs, something some members here feel is unacceptable, or a deal breaker.

Please illuminate exactly what medical needs S&B products do not cover. The Volcano cannot rightly be called an "herb hog." From my years of direct personal experience, I can assure you it is no such thing. If you can cite even one "medical need that S&B products didn't cover," I would reconsider my belief that S&B is mostly a light-year ahead of all the other vaporizers you folks like to talk up on these forums.

The other positive attribute of the Plenty, besides being able to handle plenty of material in a group setting, is that its a direct draw vaporizer that is compatible to water tubes.

And that was the real advancement of the Plenty as S&B's second model of vaporizer: you could vape a lot of strong clouds with a large group of people, AND satisfy the smokers and bong users.
 
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