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CBD Tincture...50 State Legal!

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darkrom

Great Scott!
Sorry, I love the tincture actually. I meant what I'm worried about is taking the concentrate and putting it in a capsule and dosing that way.

The tincture actually works really well. I'm almost done with my bottle. I actually ordered "epiq" tincture today. Lemonade flavor lol.
 

herbivore21

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I am really interested in CBD e-liquid for anxiety purposes myself. Anyone got any experience with a good hemp derived CBD e-liquid which reliably contains the amount of CBD is mentions and has enough CBD content to be effective? Many thanks in advance!
 

canj00digit?

All my days in a daze...
I am really interested in CBD e-liquid for anxiety purposes myself. Anyone got any experience with a good hemp derived CBD e-liquid which reliably contains the amount of CBD is mentions and has enough CBD content to be effective? Many thanks in advance!

It looks like this new company, Omega Labs, is far and away the best source of CBD products.
I've purchased quite a few bottles of Dew Drops CBD oil, at $160US for 500mg.:(
And while I loved the effect of the CBD on my anxiety, it simply isn't an economical option. I've left my last bottle to be used for my pets as it also helps them.
The economy of the Omega Labs stuff blows everything else away, it's not even close, and in fact, the Omega Labs gear is really the ONLY financially plausible way I've seen for people to properly treat themselves with high enough doses of CBD on a continual basis.

If I was 100% positive it wouldn't get seized I would have already placed an order.
All of my Dew Drops orders made it in, but some people's didn't.
And, imho, this stuff is less likely to make it through based on the labeling.

I am still going to place a test order though, the stuff is too promising not to try.
 

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I am really interested in CBD e-liquid for anxiety purposes myself. Anyone got any experience with a good hemp derived CBD e-liquid which reliably contains the amount of CBD is mentions and has enough CBD content to be effective? Many thanks in advance!
Please read several of my posts above. The Dark Side of the Moon, Epic, and Canibdol.com 3000 mg. Work wonderfully well ...they are potent for mind and body! They are not e - liquids but it doesn't really take much under the tongue or in your hot coffee to make you feel the effects you're looking for. No usual ingestion Ill effects.
 

darkrom

Great Scott!
I agree with snappo. Epiq drops are on their way to me.

For e-liquid they are selling that at http://www.epiqvap.com/

I have only tried the very weak 5ML sample. I'd suggest spending the cash on the highest concentration, since you use VERY little e-liquid at a time. All the other products seem to work, I'd bank on the e-liquid working just as well.
 

izzy212

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Is there an ingredient list of the Omega products somewhere? Otherwise, would someone be kind enough to post some of the ingredients here, so that we can get an idea of what's inside them?
 
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Is there an ingredient list of the Omega products somewhere? Otherwise, would someone be kind enough to post some of the ingredients here, so that we can get an idea of what's inside them?
Please see my post in the middle of page 6. Very effective products!
 
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Do they have discreet shipping? What does it say on the box they ship it in?
Very discreet shipping - sturdy USPS PRIORITY box. They also have excellent email communications, so if you want to advise them of any concerns or have a special formulary request, they are great to work with.
 

izzy212

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Thanks for all the help, Snappo! I'll probably try contacting them today. It's nice to hear that they're responsive.

I used to use Dixie Botanicals products, but not only are they way overpriced, they also have been experiencing bad delays over the past couple months.
 
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darkrom

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Thanks for all the help, Snappo! I'll probably try contacting them today. It's nice to hear that they're responsive.

I used to use Dixie Botanicals products, but not only are they way overpriced, they also have been experiencing bad delays over the past couple months.


No offense, but IMO dixie is PURE shit. If you enjoy dixie prepare to be blown away by the 10x better offerings they have at Omega.
 

izzy212

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One thing I've been concerned about is solvent residues. I've heard that it's a common concern with the Dixie products (I think those complaints originally came from an ex-employee who started a competing company), but I've never seen any test results. It would be nice if the companies listed their extraction methods, and then some test results showing amounts of solvent residues.
 
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izzy212

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Sorry for this newbie question (I haven't used vapes yet): Do you think the Epiq Vape formula would work with log-style vaporizers (like the HI or the E-Nano)?
 
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Sorry for this newbie question (I haven't used vapes yet): Do you think the Epiq Vape formula would work with log-style vaporizers (like the HI or the E-Nano)?
No. It is formulated in a flavored oil suspension. As I said before, very effective and no ill effects at all from ingestion.
 
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theCerberus

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I agree with snappo. Epiq drops are on their way to me.

For e-liquid they are selling that at http://www.epiqvap.com/

I have only tried the very weak 5ML sample. I'd suggest spending the cash on the highest concentration, since you use VERY little e-liquid at a time. All the other products seem to work, I'd bank on the e-liquid working just as well.

I like your optimism, however the THC e-liquids i've tried in the past have never been effective.
But the shatter from the same dispensary is very strong.

So I have my doubts about combining e-liquids and cannabinoids to begin with, but probably it just needs a stronger solution. On the other hand, I've never tried the liquidizer stuff but the thread seems quite positive.

Sorry for this newbie question (I haven't used vapes yet): Do you think the Epiq Vape formula would work with log-style vaporizers (like the HI or the E-Nano)?

No. It is formulated in a flavored oil suspension. As I said before, very effective and no ill effects at all from ingestion.


Actually he said specifically "epiq vape" which would i assume refers to the e-liquid. it can probably be used with a log vape but you would need a wicking system like cotton. its probably best to just use an e-cig.

better yet, darkrom said the concentrates from the members only site work well for dabbing. you could probably try them out with cotton the same way in a log vape.
 

izzy212

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What is the "Dark Side of the
Salutations,

This could be of important interest:


« A six-month investigation by Project CBD has revealed potentially serious quality control issues... »

...and more.

:peace:
Thanks! That was some really good info.

This is a link to the full report, for anyone who's interested:
http://www.projectcbd.org/wp-conten...Medical-Marijuana-Inc-HempMeds-Kannaway-2.pdf

It's a long read, but is pretty informative. It explains the questionable legality of CBD oil on the federal level. And also it has the most detailed explanation I've seen of the extraction process.

It's interesting that some products were found to be contaminated with hexane and other solvents, mycotoxins, and (possibly) many heavy metals. This is especially relevant for people who are already very sick and using the products to try to improve their health.

The report above is explaining how extracting the cannabinoids from hemp stalk is more likely to concentrate toxins, due to the massive amount of plant material used. The Omega Labs website says that they get their cannabinoids from the hemp flowers. I wonder if this makes them essentially safer.
 

theCerberus

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What is the "Dark Side of the

Thanks! That was some really good info.

This is a link to the full report, for anyone who's interested:
http://www.projectcbd.org/wp-conten...Medical-Marijuana-Inc-HempMeds-Kannaway-2.pdf

It's a long read, but is pretty informative. It explains the questionable legality of CBD oil on the federal level. And also it has the most detailed explanation I've seen of the extraction process.

It's interesting that some products were found to be contaminated with hexane and other solvents, mycotoxins, and (possibly) many heavy metals. This is especially relevant for people who are already very sick and using the products to try to improve their health.

The report above is explaining how extracting the cannabinoids from hemp stalk is more likely to concentrate toxins, due to the massive amount of plant material used. The Omega Labs website says that they get their cannabinoids from the hemp flowers. I wonder if this makes them essentially safer.


OK I'm not a lawyer or a legal expert by any means but from reading that PDF, I think this stuff is still legal in the USA because it is made from male hemp below the legal THC limit. Its the female plant extractions that are not. Even if they are below the required THC limit.

Hemp producers and importers in America must follow strict federal guidelines that only cover THC.

I think the DEA quote is out of context, they were saying even low THC female plants are illegal because they are female and all cannabinoids (including CBD) contained or extracted from female plants are illegal. The law that they want to change is to specifically allow high CBD and low THC female plants to be legal.

And here is the wikipedia article stating CBD is legal in USA but not Canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Legal_status

which also includes a source good enough for wikipedia explaining why CBD hemp extracts are infact legal in USA
http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-m...nabidiol-the-side-of-marijuana-you-dont-know/

I have also heard the quote

"The Ninth Circuit's opinions in the Hemp Industries Association's cases exempt all naturally occurring cannabinoids from the CSA's definition of marijuana."

from some some legal experts on the matter.

Here is that case if youd like to read more about it:
https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F3/357/357.F3d.1012.03-71693.03-71366.html
 
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Egzoset

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Salutations

It's a long read, but is pretty informative.

Exactly, to me that's yet another artificially created incident to be linked with anti-cannabic prohibition non-sense. As long as regulators won't be able to resist the money grab then cannabis will be a magnet for greed and hence the war against the so-called "evil dangers" of "marijuana" shall continue to fail miserably.

But i realize that under the Commonwealth umbrella our prohibitionist friends can by-pass democratic debates using international treaties, since our sovereing laws need to be harmonised to those afterward; what they're attempting to do with e-Liquids and associated vapes could eventually hit us as well (ref.)!

This is especially relevant for people who are already very sick and using the products to try to improve their health.

Actually it's devastating, not to mention just a few days ago i started to see some mentions of challenging side-effects. Seen under this context i'd comment it was bound to happen, now that the public finally finds out what it implies to extract CBD oil from hemp stalks with trivial traces of THC!

Well, ideological interference proves to be a toxic ingredient of its own kind after all...

The Omega Labs website says that they get their cannabinoids from the hemp flowers. I wonder if this makes them essentially safer.

There's more trichromes on the flower sites, so that would sound a reasonable assumption. But reading in the report there was also nickel, selenium, molybdenum, arsenic, silver, hexane, pentane, butane and ethyl acetat, euh... Ah and fungi-derived mycotoxins that resist decomposition...

Gee! :worms:

Apparently we can only concur with the following excerpt:

« Medical Marijuana Inc. ultimately is an artifact of prohibition, an opportunistic creature rooted in the cracks and contradictions of a government policy built on lies. Give these hemp oil hustlers their due for realizing early on that there was a large, untapped market for non-psychoactive cannabis concentrates. They shamelessly played the CBD card and pushed the envelope willy-nilly into grey areas of the law. »

It's no wonder the last two words read as "sordid affair"!!

:goon:

...I think this stuff is still legal in the USA...

My guess is that's exactly what is meant by "cracks", "contradictions" and "grey areas of the law".

:nod:

...because it is made from male hemp below the legal THC limit.

The first time i heard about the price tags in Colorado i thought to myself it was going to please the bigots, and now this is their legacy too. Because of hate-lovers/love-haters disguising bigotry as "tough-love", whatever, etc...

Some morons should simply loose their right to vote because of revolting mishaps like that - and those in power made accountable for starters!!

But that's day-dreaming, the hypocritical blood-suckers won't capitulate easily. :rant:

The law that they want to change is to specifically allow high CBD and low THC female plants to be legal.

That would be a start but this won't make me feel better about the origins of prohibition, questions need to be asked by those in place before this becomes a popular topic on radar of medias...

:peace:
 

theCerberus

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@izzy212 the statement

"Although it is nontoxic, non-addictive, and non-psychoactive, cannabidiol is still illegal, according to
the Drug Enforcement Administration. The DEA categorizes CBD and all other plant cannabinoids
under “tetrahydrocannabinols,” which are Schedule I substances. "

found in the above PDF is unfounded, unsourced, and completely false. According to the well sourced wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Legal_status) only THC and several synthetic cannabinoids are illegal in the USA. CBD specifically is absent from the list. found here on the DOJ's site:

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/orangebook/e_cs_sched.pdf

This is the same reason why all those synthetic cannabinoids (K2, spice etc) need to be added to the scheduled list and have laws pertaining to them.
 
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Alright, now with all of the above duly considered, how does this directly pertain to the Omega Labs products that we have thus far extolled? Quality and legality seem to get a thumbs up, at least in the absence to the contrary.
 
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