Cheap High Quality Bubbler

LongIslandmom

Well-Known Member
This guy seems to have pretty good quality dabuccino rigs, but he has some steep prices ($75+shipping) and no feedback/sales.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/starbucks-rig-glass-water-pipes/209347357.html#s1-2-1c|562980034
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StoneMonkey55. Do you see how many people are pairing their evos with other water tools and bubblers. You should take notice of this and work out an arrangement with the most popular master glass blowers and feature them on your site instead of having to say out of stock. Some of them are making them specifically for the xhale. Then you could concentrate on building a smaller vaporizer to take on the solo.
You haven't worked out all the problems with cracked bamboo; selling overseas with the correct voltage.
You could concentrate on this and expand the product line and let others make the awesome water tools. I believe you must have some type of exclusive arrangement with who ever is making the hydra tools. You should let that contract either expire or drop him for non performance because to have to say out of stock constantly isn't doing you any good. I love my exhale - please don't get me wrong. But everyone seems to be turning to other water tools to pair it with. And the herbalizer even if it is more expensive is gaining ground on you. So is the solo as a cheaper alternative to you.

I think the xhale is the best product; you know that. But look at the glass site. FC members are spending good money on tools you could be promoting and getting a small cut from

This is IMHO; think about it. And if a lot of people like this post then I just may be on to something

Your very devoted and still voiceless
LIMOM
Who still can't find the avatars/symbols so I may really know nothing. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Anyone who knows me on this site knows that's not my style or intention
 
LongIslandmom,

vapordab

Medical+FC=Recreational
I just got my GB186-1 from yingmin, and it has a crack in the joint, one in the mouthpeice, and one on the can.(all small hairline cracks, except one) Unacceptable in my eyes.

It seems like he is going to offer a partial refund. I'm tempted to just smash it and request 100%.. Well see. I love the size, aesthetics, etc though.. Waiting for a resolution before I try it though.
 
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Roth

Pining for the Mountains
StoneMonkey55. Do you see how many people are pairing their evos with other water tools and bubblers. You should take notice of this and work out an arrangement with the most popular master glass blowers and feature them on your site instead of having to say out of stock. Some of them are making them specifically for the xhale. Then you could concentrate on building a smaller vaporizer to take on the solo.
You haven't worked out all the problems with cracked bamboo; selling overseas with the correct voltage.
You could concentrate on this and expand the product line and let others make the awesome water tools. I believe you must have some type of exclusive arrangement with who ever is making the hydra tools. You should let that contract either expire or drop him for non performance because to have to say out of stock constantly isn't doing you any good. I love my exhale - please don't get me wrong. But everyone seems to be turning to other water tools to pair it with. And the herbalizer even if it is more expensive is gaining ground on you. So is the solo as a cheaper alternative to you.

I think the xhale is the best product; you know that. But look at the glass site. FC members are spending good money on tools you could be promoting and getting a small cut from

This is IMHO; think about it. And if a lot of people like this post then I just may be on to something

Your very devoted and still voiceless
LIMOM
Who still can't find the avatars/symbols so I may really know nothing. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Anyone who knows me on this site knows that's not my style or intention


I don't know, I think you're assuming quite a bit here. A large chunk of the people you see in the glass threads are "glass heads", many of them have quite a collection of glass. There are many people who love the style of a hydratube and would prefer not to invert. Everyone has their own preference (I prefer to invert). Just because you see a few dozen people excited about a new glass blower, doesn't mean everyone is abandoning VXL.

While I can't speak for SM55 personally, I think it's a little crazy to assume the international issues are due to him worrying about hydratubes. And like you said, he might be in a contract with some suppliers that is unable to change at the moment.

And what is the cracked bamboo issue you speak of? First I'm hearing of that. Occasionally someone will have their bamboo crack without any impact to the EVO (possible cause, heater wrapped too tight on bamboo). In that case, VXL takes care of you. It's a rare occurrence from what I've seen in the EVO thread. Sure, a small percentage of ANY product will have failures. You also have to remember that nearly everyone who has an issue is going to log in and complain about it. But how many of the happy customers are constantly posting how amazing it is? Sure, there are some, but it's just a fraction of the total out there.


All that being said though, I absolutely think it would be beneficial to have VXL working with some more glass blowers. But honestly, if that happened, you'd be paying a higher price then going straight to the source like you can now with blowers like Doughboy. Right now, there are options for everyone. But for those that do a little digging/research, a better option can be had for a cheaper price.



Regarding the avatar: In the upper right of the screen, hover over your username. Then click on "Personal Details" when it pops up. You'll see a section for your avatar there. All you have to do is provide the link to the picture you want to use. There are no premade ones that I'm aware of. Find whatever picture you want to use on the internet, and link to it.
 

OvaDaBong

Member
Ive been reading this thread a bit and i see from time to time that people pissed when they get the wrong item/broken item/cracked item or just not what they ordered. Keep in mind that you are buying from china, paying less than $50 for a bubbler and im not sure what your really expecting? Most of the designs im seeing are total rip offs of name American branded glass, they see a pic, sit down and give it a go, before u know it they have ripped off a Toro or Illidelph glass bong and ask 1/10th the price sometimes like the dabachino they have the exact same logos on em. With glass you do really get what you pay for. That said i have seen some gems im not seeing els ware so i sorta wish china and india would create their own style or pipes and not knock stuff off
 

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
I think the expectations we have a quite fair:
A lower quality of workmanship, but to get the item we order in a working state.

Its basic commerce - we are buying a good.

We know it is not a high premium good, but a good nonetheless.

I don't care how cheap any item is, if they are selling it, it must be of a saleable quality.

For glassware - bongs or not, cracked is not saleable quality.
 

LongIslandmom

Well-Known Member
Ive been reading this thread a bit and i see from time to time that people pissed when they get the wrong item/broken item/cracked item or just not what they ordered. Keep in mind that you are buying from china, paying less than $50 for a bubbler and im not sure what your really expecting? Most of the designs im seeing are total rip offs of name American branded glass, they see a pic, sit down and give it a go, before u know it they have ripped off a Toro or Illidelph glass bong and ask 1/10th the price sometimes like the dabachino they have the exact same logos on em. With glass you do really get what you pay for. That said i have seen some gems im not seeing els ware so i sorta wish china and india would create their own style or pipes and not knock stuff off
Gentlemen:

Points well taken. There are glass heads out there. I'm new here and maybe I misspoke. But I don't think my side circ provided the diffusion I really needed. StoneMonkey55 I may have been wrong in my assertions and as I said I do love my exhale. You know that.

I was I no way referring to the china knock offs. There are some glass blowers here that are putting out beautiful pieces. The exhale is meant to be paired with a water tool. But I accept that I may have totally jumped the gun.

The international issues had nothing to do with the hydra tubes. VXL had a lot of problems getting the plug in voltage correct. I think that has been addressed but it was a real problem

Having said that I do wish there was a more portable piece.
SM55: I may have been totally out of line here and if I was I sincerely apologize. You know I'm really new here and new to vaping period. And as I say in the post I don't know how to get avatar up so really what do I know. Sometimes rookies drop the ball. Sometimes they make it to the goal line. At leat they keep trying to stay on the team

I'm so glad I posted on here and not on the exhale site. And I really do appreciate the input,

LIMOMLIMOM
 

vapordab

Medical+FC=Recreational
I think the expectations we have a quite fair:
A lower quality of workmanship, but to get the item we order in a working state.

Its basic commerce - we are buying a good.

We know it is not a high premium good, but a good nonetheless.

I don't care how cheap any item is, if they are selling it, it must be of a saleable quality.

For glassware - bongs or not, cracked is not saleable quality.


Well put! When I buy a new car windshield, finding a crack would be completely unacceptable regardless of where its made or the price.

with that being said, I don't have quite the same expectations for dhgate glass, but if I find a crack that will inevitably spread and cause problems(such as the cracks on my 186-1) , you can be sure that I will be expecting some compensation.
 

oli

Well-Known Member
I'm pretty vaked currently...so pardon if this is a repost. Have we seen this one before?


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http://www.dhgate.com/product/2014-newest-hand-blown-roor-glass-bong-glass/211528471.html

Untested seller, 0 transactions...

Nice one Man, do you have a special pluggin that lets you see all the new stuff before we do??? As I spend a lot of time browsing that DHGATE but rarely come up with so much new stuff as you do!!!

Would like to pull the trigger on that one but I'm a little anxious about that return pipe been so high or at least not been below the perc, and as I don't know much about recycler I'd love someone to shine their expertise advice on this one?
 
Nice one Man, do you have a special pluggin that lets you see all the new stuff before we do??? As I spend a lot of time browsing that DHGATE but rarely come up with so much new stuff as you do!!!

Would like to pull the trigger on that one but I'm a little anxious about that return pipe been so high or at least not been below the perc, and as I don't know much about recycler I'd love someone to shine their expertise advice on this one?
I agree completely, that's one they keep missing.
 

calyx

Active Member
Ive been reading this thread a bit and i see from time to time that people pissed when they get the wrong item/broken item/cracked item or just not what they ordered. Keep in mind that you are buying from china, paying less than $50 for a bubbler and im not sure what your really expecting? Most of the designs im seeing are total rip offs of name American branded glass, they see a pic, sit down and give it a go, before u know it they have ripped off a Toro or Illidelph glass bong and ask 1/10th the price sometimes like the dabachino they have the exact same logos on em. With glass you do really get what you pay for. That said i have seen some gems im not seeing els ware so i sorta wish china and india would create their own style or pipes and not knock stuff off

I'm actually pretty surprised with the quality of some sellers. It's like any industry, you have some reputable businesses and then the total scammers.
The American glass scene is definitely the most innovative anywhere in the world, but at the same time, it has the most ridiculous pricing i've ever seen. $500+ for rigs that are smaller than a beer bottle. I don't know if smokers have started to become very prosperous in the past decade, but prices for vapes and glass have skyrocketed to pretty unreasonable amounts. I've paid $100+ on multiple occasions for different pieces by American blowers, and I can't help but feel like I overpaid by a lot. One thing i've really started to notice also, unless you go to a high end headshop most all of the glass comes directly from China. I've even talked to owners of local smoke shops and they have no interest in buying work from local glass blowers.
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
I am fairly impressed with the quality of most of my china pieces, and how well they are holding up. I know it is a gamble on if you are getting the "good one" sent to you when you buy, and if it survives the perils of overseas shipping etc...

What I have discovered after having a lot of exposure to china glass, is how many US stores are trying to pass off china made glass for american blown, and marking it way up. It's been pointed out many times over here in this thread when somebody stumbles upon a site selling the same glass way higher.

I have been slowly immersing myself into the local glass blowing community here, and have a great respect for anyone able to master (even poorly) the skill of glass working. We are getting serious bargains here with all these china sellers, even with minor cracks and ugly welds etc... So far I have made a pendant and a small marble that was intended to be a pendant, and became a marble that I still haven't seen the finished product yet :p just doing those gave me a huge respect for blowing glass, and getting it right. I think some of my bubblers cost about as much fully made and shipped as some of the raw glass materials cost here in the US. So we should definitely be showing a bit of gratitude for both sides.

Sorry for those of you who have been receiving broken pieces, I know that sucks and I hope your disputes go smoothly. Be polite but firm, and show pictures.
 

calyx

Active Member
What I have discovered after having a lot of exposure to china glass, is how many US stores are trying to pass off china made glass for american blown, and marking it way up. It's been pointed out many times over here in this thread when somebody stumbles upon a site selling the same glass way higher.

Yeah i've noticed that too, and it's really frustrating. I ordered a domeless quartz nail from BakeBros which was marked up pretty high, and it broke after the 5th time I heated it up. Contacted them, received a replacement which also cracked after two days. At this point I just contacted them saying that they need to find a new Chinese wholesale source, because it's obviously not quartz. They responded by basically saying "yeah we know, those nails have been breaking on us too." Then they threw in the classic CCG style line of "if you order again we will throw in a free gift." Yeah, no thanks.
I would just get it directly from DHGate but they don't do individual sales on little stuff.
 

oldiebutgoodie

Apostle, Church of Vaporization
I was looking for your input my friend . . .
Talk to me more about muscle use. This has been said too me a few times. Some of the pieces are large and the evo itself is big . . . Right now I want to focus on muscle use; I see him tomorrow
and have a feeling he is going to want me to continue voice rest . . .

OBG: oldies like us are certainly in a new world

I (we) don't know what your throat issue was/is, and I'm highly doubtful anyone here is qualified to offer a medical assessment anyway. I'm certainly not. Since you are seeing your ENT and can discuss this with him, that's where to look for answers to some of your questions.

E.g., re your throat muscles, you use your pulmonary musculature when you suck in air. You can feel a tightening at the back of your pharynx. Taking hard, sharp, long hits will work those muscles more than a softer, relaxed hit. Maybe this should be a concern for you, maybe not. Only the doc knows. (If his answer is yes, that also translates into a smaller volume piece.)

Same with the water temp. There could be good reasons to avoid anything that may increase your absorption of bacteria, as hot/warm water can do. Or maybe that need not be a concern. Again, the doc.

As far as being in a new world, um, not really. (Hint: Take a look at my avatar.)

And btw, I know you mean well with suggestions to the monkey man. Might I suggest though that those comments belong in the EVO thread, and probably would benefit from waiting on your new experience once you get into your new setup and technique (lest the mods intervene, i.e., "stay on topic.")
 

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
Well, yeah, but pink is worth bank :lol:

Was just having a look on aqualabs to see if I could find a comparable illadelph piece for a price comparison...
Couldn't find anything (except $370 ash catchers :o), but I'm still amazed how much the legit hitman rigs go for...

$500 for the double barrel, $700 for barrel to funnel...
:o damn. Stupid pricey.
 
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