My secret to THC E-Cig PG-Liquid... Potent, Effective, Cheap, Easy!!!

NolaD

Member
So glad I found this thread. Been a long time dry flower vaper and been around here for a while too. Recently started looking for a e-cig for my fiance. Well, that ultimately led me back here to see if it was possible to use the e-cig to vape the good stuff.

I have been through the whole thread and there has been some amazing information. One thing I saw briefly mentioned was that kief couldn't be used in the PG/ejmix. My guess is not directly, but there must be a way... I don't live in a state where it's easy to come by bho or waxes or oils. I have read around and could make some of my own, but I really just want to see if it is possible and I have a good bit of kief and pressed kief hash. I am also happy with my current dry flowers / SSV / PnP rotation.

I am looking at the mvp 2 and nautilus mini so far. I am willing to buy some ejmix since that seems to be pretty accepted here. Just not sure what to do with what I already have. Thanks to everyone that has been so helpful in this thread!
 
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2clicker

Observer
So glad I found this thread. Been a long time dry flower vaper and been around here for a while too. Recently started looking for a e-cig for my fiance. Well, that ultimately led me back here to see if it was possible to use the e-cig to vape the good stuff.

I have been through the whole thread and there has been some amazing information. One thing I saw briefly mentioned was that kief couldn't be used in the PG/ejmix. My guess is not directly, but there must be a way... I don't live in a state where it's easy to come by bho or waxes or oils. I have read around and could make some of my own, but I really just want to see if it is possible and I have a good bit of kief and pressed kief hash. I am also happy with my current dry flowers / SSV / PnP rotation.

I am looking at the mvp 2 and nautilus mini so far. I am willing to buy some ejmix since that seems to be pretty accepted here. Just not sure what to do with what I already have. Thanks to everyone that has been so helpful in this thread!

you are going to need to wash that kief first to get to a full melt at least. otherwise you will have chunks of stalks all in it that will gunk your coil up.
 

ollent

Well-Known Member
Latest mix seems better at the .5ml:1g ratio with the much elongated microwave/water bath routine. Dropped all of it into solution after ~10 minutes instead of 5. Works fine now. Still the slightest film on the roof of my mouth, but very sustainable.
 

arrr

Well-Known Member
Anyone that purchased and has been using a Nautilus mini with ejmixed bho can you comment if it has leakded?

Also tell us how much you have used(per ml), how long, and your climate.

I don't want to purchase this atty if it going to be as bad as the mPT3. ( I purchased 3 of these and don't use them cause they leak every where.
 

aesthyrian

Blaaaaah
Anyone that purchased and has been using a Nautilus mini with ejmixed bho can you comment if it has leakded?

Also tell us how much you have used(per ml), how long, and your climate.

I don't want to purchase this atty if it going to be as bad as the mPT3. ( I purchased 3 of these and don't use them cause they leak every where.

Never used a Nautilus mini but I have 3 mini Protank 3's and have never had any leaking issues, even while left in a car in 80+ degree weather.

Maybe try making a slightly thicker solution of ejmix and bho?
 
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farscaper

Well-Known Member
so ever since ive gotten sick ive been rocking the ejmix in a kanger aerotank mini through my little oil rigs...

THIS HAS BEEN MY PROBLEM THE WHOLE TIME!!

I need a moistened vapor hit... I have a sensitive throat... running the juice which I have very thick (1drop per .1 of oil initially then an additional few if necessary.)

obviously just using it through water pieces works fine but in public I need another solution... it got me thinking

would the inclusion of vg help moisten the vapor making it less of a throat hit?

I really enjoy the easy tank method and I may just get some more tanks for diffrent flavors. (au natural mind you!)

maybe get a bigger watt box since I can get no more than 10 out of this stick!
 
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ollent

Well-Known Member
Anyone that purchased and has been using a Nautilus mini with ejmixed bho can you comment if it has leakded?

Also tell us how much you have used(per ml), how long, and your climate.

I don't want to purchase this atty if it going to be as bad as the mPT3. ( I purchased 3 of these and don't use them cause they leak every where.
1) The only time it has leaked it when I was heating the contents excessively using a lighter. It has not leaked with regular use (nor has it leaked more than once while heating the contents, which I still do).

2) .5ml EJ Mix : 1g of shatter

3) I live in the temperate Pacific Northwest. I've had experience with this thing in the 90 degree - 60 degree range in the last two months of ownership.
 

707vallejo707

NorCalLeftSideWe$tSide
Anyone have pics of the nautilus mini loaded? How thick is the mixture? I've been using los as you go attys and I think it's time to try something new. T
So with Bho/ecig mixture how thin does the liquid have to be to not clog the nautilus mini? I just bought one today and I'm excited to mix I just don't wanna mess it up.

Thanks
 
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707vallejo707,

Paperback Writer

Im a Rastaman not a Dreadlock
Tried making ejuice with bho a few times with poor results. Each time I used 1 gram Shatter, once in a 70VG/30PG 0 nic liquid, and the other in a 100% VG, only to achieve a slight headache/headchange. With both i used a electric fondue to combine the mixture with the concentrate.

Reading this thread has inspired me to give it another go but this time with EJmix. Also have a Astro clone and Trident RDA on the way. Very interested in the Nautlus tank, kicking myself for not picking one up when I purchased my other gear. Been out of the Ecig game for a while with my Reo and throw away atties, so much reading to do on RDA/RBAs. Thanks for the inspiration and knowledge shared
 
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alldayyy

New Member
Hello, I've read through the forums with great interest and I have a few questions.

I'm looking to be able to use my BHO in a standard 510 ecig a la O-Pen. What is the best to go about mixing the BHO with the pg/vg? should I use ejmix? I'm also looking to add flavor to it. When do i add the flavoring? and is there a brand that you guys could recommend? i dont want to add unnecessarily bad chemicals to my mix so i'm very wary of which flavoring to add. lastly, which syringes do i need to buy? thank you all!

edit: also, as opposed to BHO, should i be using absolute shatter or wax instead? im obviously looking for best bang for the buck but also cleanest
 
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alldayyy,

farscaper

Well-Known Member
Hello, I've read through the forums with great interest and I have a few questions.

I'm looking to be able to use my BHO in a standard 510 ecig a la O-Pen. What is the best to go about mixing the BHO with the pg/vg? should I use ejmix? I'm also looking to add flavor to it. When do i add the flavoring? and is there a brand that you guys could recommend? i dont want to add unnecessarily bad chemicals to my mix so i'm very wary of which flavoring to add. lastly, which syringes do i need to buy? thank you all!

edit: also, as opposed to BHO, should i be using absolute shatter or wax instead? im obviously looking for best bang for the buck but also cleanest
dewaxxed shatter will gum up the wick the least. waxes tend to gum up the works even when combined with the ejmix in my experience.

I also have had better results with unflavored mix. adding flavor adds another compoud thag doesnt vape at the same temp as cannabis oil does neccesarily.

when flavored I ended up getting mixed quality hits... some strong in artificial flavor but week in effects and some good effects but the flavor tastes burnt.
i would suggest flavoring only a small sample so that you dont overflav the whole batch.

speaking from experience...
 

707vallejo707

NorCalLeftSideWe$tSide
My EJmix came in early I melted and mixed a good 50/50 ratio. It's actually wicking but the wax clumps up maybe I didn't shake and mix enough, maybe I put too much EJmix because it? I might just unload the tank reheat and remix. Not sure how potent the effects are figuring I used a little under 1g. Should the mixture be very thin?
 
707vallejo707,

707vallejo707

NorCalLeftSideWe$tSide
My first coil might have gunked up. So I reheated the mix and replaced the coil. It was working great until it cooled down. Now I get a burning taste. Not sure if I clogged the 2nd coil or if I'll have to try to thin it out more. Anyone else having a burning taste when the mix cools?
 
707vallejo707,

calimed

Well-Known Member
If the mixture is clumping up it probably wasn't mixed long enough or at the right temperature.

How thick is your mixture? I've found that thinner mixtures wick a bit easier, but still get burnt hits randomly with BDC atomizers.

My favorite atomizer is still the Smok dual coil cart with rubber tip. It isn't a tank and the flavor is perhaps slightly muted in comparison, but they don't leak, hold between 2-3ml, and you can pass the pen around to your friends without worry of them hacking up a lung from a dry hit.
 

707vallejo707

NorCalLeftSideWe$tSide
It is clumped up but it still slides down slowly when I invert the nautilus mini. It's like a lava lamp kind of. Now I'm gonna buy some extra coils but the trick seems I need to use a less waxy oil as well.
 
707vallejo707,

707vallejo707

NorCalLeftSideWe$tSide
So when my mix cools down I get the burning flavor. I tried to do some dry fire until it heated up, that seems to fix the issue. I'm really looking for shatter or co2. Anybody having luck mixing ejmix and bho w/ out the same issues in having?
 
707vallejo707,

ollent

Well-Known Member
The "clumping" is a product of not mixing it well enough at a high enough heat. The concentrates *look* dissolved much faster than they actually fall into solution. I do the following protocol (now):

1. .5ml : 1g concentrates
2. Put EJMix into shotglass
3. Put water into large measuring cup
4. Heat water in microwave to boiling. Remove.
5. Heat EJMix in microwave for 15 seconds on high.
6. Put shotglass into measuring cup. Drop 1/4g into mix. Stir. Stir a lot.
7. Repeat 5-6 until all concentrate goes into solution. Keep stirring.
8. Stir for 10 minutes. Keep the water in the cup hot -- microwave if you need to. Microwave the mix for 10 seconds every once in a while.

It's a little more involved than the label, but it seems to be working much better for me. I've also noticed that I can force some of the mix back into the wick by covering the "active" draw-through hole with my finger and continuing to draw.

I think adding a skosh more PEG might work too, but I'm still working on balancing that out. But yeah, I have that problem a fair bit.
 

707vallejo707

NorCalLeftSideWe$tSide
So I gunked up two coils during the learning process, but being sure to heat and mix LONG enough is defenitely something I overlooked. I thought just melting and a quick mix would do. Gonna see how this holds up seeing the liquid is not as thick. Thanks
 

severalmore

New Member
Well yes in my opinion, especially since there are some newer devices available for vaporizing what I call e-cannabis oil. Actually, with the new KangerTech AreoTank Mega, with a 1.5 ohm coil (ordered separately), I prefer to use an innokin SVD vape. Other APVs will function just as well. Even an eGo C Twist VV pen battery will work, it will be a bit awkward, but it will work.

I finally hit the point where I would have to say, using the devices I mention above, concentrate infused with PG USP medical/food grade, it can potentially exceed or match the potency of vaporizing the oil straight. At least with my oil and the devices I use. Vaping it straight, the buzz hits much faster and harder, but it is not nearly as consistent or enjoyable in my opinion. Vaping it mixed with PG USP in these devices, the buzz seems to last longer and is different, like the oil is not damaged. Just my opinion, (it slightly reminds me of eating RSO, which is kind of unpredictable when eaten).

Yes, I would mix your own if I were you. I like to add at least 30% PG USP to all my mixtures. With BHO-shatter, I have heard of people needing grain alcohol to assist in melting the concentrate. I have no experience working with BHO. With QWISO and RSO I have steered away from any grain alcohol being left. I like it only mixed with PG USP. With the new AeroTank Mega, and Mini it is by far the best experience I have had with vaping period. I have not used the mega and mini for very long though, they were just released, but first impression is they are the best I have used yet.

Purchase some plain PG USP medical/food grade (no additives, no VG, no nicotine, no sweetener). High Desert Vapes offers the PG USP theirs is Kosher and many other e-cigg shops have it too. They sell it so you can make your own e-cigg mixtures to your preference. Add minimal heat, super clean oil, some PG USP, mix well and you are good to go.

If you try it, please let us know how it works out as well as the percentage of loss or gain that you notice.

Some e-juice concentrate mixtures that my be sold in dispensaries might contain additional additives. Like different grades of PEG (polyethylene glycol) to help hold the infusion together for a longer period of time or even possibly VG, which I do not agree with.

With the new KangerTech units that are dual coil bottom fed and virtually no wick, oil that is stored in them will not separate as quickly. When I gently warm my concentrate and hand mix PG USP into it, very careful it is not too warm otherwise the PG USP as well as THC will just vaporize out. As long as the oil is going to be consumed within a month and it is good clean oil, it should not separate. A decent mixing has lasted me three months. I have had other mixtures separate sooner. I notice the top coil units with a lot of wicks, the oil seems to attach to the wicks if stored in them and the PG USP separates. I have seen this happen within 1-2 months.

Hope I have been able to help.
Are you still using the protank? I've tried so many tanks, protank included, straight thick oil, thinned oil...the protank did seem to work best, but only once! Second time I went to use it, cleaned out and replaced coil, the oil just flowed out the air holes on the side, or bubbled in the mouth tube...I thought maybe a faulty coil, changed it and lost all kind of product and the experience kinda soured me on protanks.
What about genesis style tanks, liquid at the bottom, wicks up to coil? I've heard about ceramic wicks--anybody know about those? The tech is evolving so fast, I'm sure they'll have this down soon-- what about the v2 big dripper rbdta--rebuildable dripping tank atomizer? Anybody try that? It holds oil in a tank, spring loaded mouthpiece push and drips liquid directly onto coils...sounds awesome but I've yet to try...
Just one other question, can you really liquefy shatter to smoke like oil? I've heard mixing peoduct with pg affects /lowers potency...is it true?
 
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