Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

I would do 2 or 3 burn offs at a high heat 420f. Clean the stems with some ISO. If you have the glass pipe screen stems, use those. If you don't have a spacer, pack firm with ground well cured product. You can put a screen up above the oven. A little cotton on top to help with any particles of herb, it needs to be weighed down because it will fly around in the oven.

Smooth, slow and steady draws is what works well with this vaporizer. Allow 30 sec for the oven to recover between draws. You can a a very enjoyable session with the Ascent.


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Back to back burn off are fine.

Thanks Carol should I do the burn offs back to back to back

jasong said:

Ok just got home and I wanted to know how many cycles should I run this before I pack it up

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5 did it for mine.

Really I think I am going to wait two if I can figure out how to turn this bowl off

Davinci_vaporizer said:

You definitely do not need a serial number to buy accessories from our website. We will also not cover a warranty on a second hand sale.

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So now I really am stuck with it...hmm, total bummer as I was trying to sell it as I found it really was not for me (that's like saying a car with a flat tire is not for everyone, lol). What difference does a second owner make? What reasoning could there possibly be to void the warranty?

Tanz said:

What reasoning could there possibly be to void the warranty?

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I don't think the warranty can be voided, that's not how contracts work. They still have an obligation to the original buyer, but not to anyone else. In fact, there can be no contract with the second buyer since there was no 'quid pro quo' there, the second buyer gave DV no 'valuable consideration', they have no 'skin in the game'. The second buyer has no real claim if the maker decides not to honor it.

Same as with the Lexus.

It's their call I guess, I can see the reasoning behind it I think.

However, you can still sell me (or anyone else) your unit as you wish. Either 'as is' or offering to get it repaired until some date when your warranty runs out. There is noting in the original agreement that I can see that prevents this. And again, they confirm that the warranty (to the original owner) continues on after the sale with: "The two (2) year limited warranty period starts at the time of Product's original purchase by the first end-user."

FWIW I see no reason that should you say sell it to me and it dies a month later why I could not send it in 'for you' from my house and why they would not return it (even addressed to you) to my house as well? All that needs to happen is for me to have confidence that you'll make the necessary contact if/when the time comes?

The 2 year warranty is as much a valuable feature as the charger or OLED display. It was part of the deal. You paid for it, you own it, (within the agreement) you can sell or trade it as you wish.

At least as I understand such things........

OF

Well....patience is a virtue, unless you are the one waiting. I have an 18 mm DHGate bubbler without a Gong for the Ascent. The curved 18mm Gong I ordered from DaVinci must have had a defect, as I assembled it the glass broke with min stress on the curve as I was assembling the silicone brace to the tube. I have assembled glassware before in a lab. It didn't shatter like this stem did.
First, do not do the DaVinci Chat. It hangs up on you unless you reply quickly. I was frustrated with the Chat and an irrelevant question that was asked before the disconnect.
I called up on the land line and spoke with Joyce. She listened to my frustrations with Chat personal, then proceded to be my advocate with her boss concerning the curved stem. She also communicated with Chat for me. Her boss wasn't available so she came back and made the correct call to send out a replacement glass piece to a faithful customer. She is sending out a straight stem to me.
Joyce is an example of someone in DaVinci customer service that serves as a customer advocate when you call with a problem. I lift her up. Maybe you could ask for her if you have to call DaVinci. Many have complained that DaVinci is too rigid with their return/warranty policies. To be fair to DaVinci, in my situation their policy was altered, resulting in a satisfied customer, instead of one blamed for the defective glass breakage.
Reality check, It cost less than $5 to make one of these, they charge $35. They have got to pay Joyce ;-)

Glass004 said:

Reality check, It cost less than $5 to make one of these, they charge $35.

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Great post I think, up to the above part. I'm not at all sure you can make anything like that out of glass for five bucks even. If you can, by all means do, looks like easy money? I'll give you ten for one, and I'm sure I'm far from alone? At that price, put me down for two maybe.......I could get an Ataxian attack......

Reality check: Cost of delivering goods generally far exceeds material costs. Typical 'burden rates' for places I've worked for over the years ran in the '4 or 5 times prime' range with one exception (a sweat shop making lots of the same thing). You'd have to sell postage stamps for $250 each. And might go broke. That's the reality often times. What with licenses, taxes, shipping, stocking, rent, benefits, utilities and so on it gets relatively expensive real easy.

I remain glad such options are open to us, and confident that Capitalism will provide the best price possible from a competitor if necessary.

OF

Hi guys, I was really busy these days and I didn't come here for more than a week. I did a lot of experiment with the Ascent. Last Friday we (3 persons) had a great time with the Ascent. I packed it with around 0.4g plus some glass beads, set the temperature at 315F. After 10-15 minutes of vaping we were really somewhere else. Great.... this first session was more the sufficient to convince my friends about the virtue of vaping. An hour later (with the same stuff in the oven), I set the temp. at 385F... again we were back to somewhere else. 45 minutes later thinking we were unfreezing we turn it back on at 420F and had a last really really good session.

So, with the same herb (or ABV for the 2 last sessions) we were able to have 3 different high... isn't that wonderful !

does the 2 year warranty on ascent start from when I received replacement unit or from date I bought it? I feel it should be from replacement date as I am on unit 4 or 5 and each one has been a month in post! So a good chunk of warranty has been used in post

smokie said:

does the 2 year warranty on ascent start from when I received replacement unit or from date I bought it? I feel it should be from replacement date as I am on unit 4 or 5 and each one has been a month in post! So a good chunk of warranty has been used in post

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Although , I do Not agree with the " Multiple " shipping fees
put on the owner , to get a good working RMA unit .

I have to agree with the manufacturers on this one .
Because if you were to RMA at 23 months .
And get a new unit and given another 24 months warranty .
That's a total of 47 months warranty you were given on one unit purchased .
Of course , if you do it again on the 2nd replacement unit after 23 months .
You would have potentially received 70 months warranty on 1 unit .

I don't think that is fair for any company .

OF said:

Great post I think, up to the above part. I'm not at all sure you can make anything like that out of glass for five bucks even. If you can, by all means do, looks like easy money? I'll give you ten for one, and I'm sure I'm far from alone? At that price, put me down for two maybe.......I could get an Ataxian attack......

Reality check: Cost of delivering goods generally far exceeds material costs. Typical 'burden rates' for places I've worked for over the years ran in the '4 or 5 times prime' range with one exception (a sweat shop making lots of the same thing). You'd have to sell postage stamps for $250 each. And might go broke. That's the reality often times. What with licenses, taxes, shipping, stocking, rent, benefits, utilities and so on it gets relatively expensive real easy.

I remain glad such options are open to us, and confident that Capitalism will provide the best price possible from a competitor if necessary.

OF

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They have been sending out these GonGs with every new purchase. Sending out a couple of thousand over the last 4 months? I would guess when buying lots of 500 or more, purchasing from an inexpensive Chinese source, you could get glaas stems for $5 apiece. The price differences in Chinese glass and domestic glass is enormous. See DHgate.

Glass004 said:

I would guess when buying lots of 500 or more, purchasing from an inexpensive Chinese source, you could get glaas stems for $5 apiece. The price differences in Chinese glass and domestic glass is enormous. See DHgate.

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I think you just made my point? You can't get one for five bucks, with planning you can get 500 for $2500 (maybe.....). Multiply that 'prime' by 4 or 5 and we're talking serious money. DHgate isn't cheaper because the glass costs (sand and ash basically......) are that much cheaper.

So how much to you figure it costs DV to just do the part of taking the ('free') part off the shelf, package it up, put a label on it, pay for shipping, keep the lights on, rent paid and so on? Don't forget the benefit 'burden' on that labor, another big savings in China I guess. That's the reality of giving out replacements.

It's like the old joke about potato chips that starts 'potatoes cost 8 cents a pound.....'. The reality is while not everyone is keeping mindful of the real costs, makers that don't go broke . "Cost of goods sold" is a critical measure of any company interested in their future. They all 'play it the same way' (charging more than material costs) because those that didn't are history. And they know it.

OF

I agree with @poonman. The warranty should be from the original date of sale. I don't agree with the customer having to pay for shipping more than say, twice though. having to pay 4 or 5 times is too much for the customer, just my opinion.

I don't have the patience to stick with something if it's not working for me. I have a portable vaporizer that I just gave up on. The materials in IMO were inferior it was cracking by the mouthpiece. The company refused to answer my emails. They even stated on FC they would not cover the problem with the cracking. It wasn't the Ascent by the way. I finally said "I'm done". I do not recommend that vaporizer anymore. I'm still really pissed about it (can't you tell ). I try not to bad mouth the company, it's hard to keep my mouth shut at times. I don't want to get called on the carpet by Paka or Stu.

OF said:

I think you just made my point? You can't get one for five bucks, with planning you can get 500 for $2500 (maybe.....). Multiply that 'prime' by 4 or 5 and we're talking serious money. DHgate isn't cheaper because the glass costs (sand and ash basically......) are that much cheaper.

So how much to you figure it costs DV to just do the part of taking the ('free') part off the shelf, package it up, put a label on it, pay for shipping, keep the lights on, rent paid and so on? Don't forget the benefit 'burden' on that labor, another big savings in China I guess. That's the reality of giving out replacements.

It's like the old joke about potato chips that starts 'potatoes cost 8 cents a pound.....'. The reality is while not everyone is keeping mindful of the real costs, makers that don't go broke . "Cost of goods sold" is a critical measure of any company interested in their future. They all 'play it the same way' (charging more than material costs) because those that didn't are history. And they know it.

OF

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On DHgate I found this 18.8 mm Gong with fitted glass bowl for $1.46 per unit in lots of 100. http://www.dhgate.com/product/6-8-i...n-glass-down/206002909.html#s1-4-1|2586616556 I am sure they negotiated specifications to make the DaVinci GonG fit the Ascent properly. DaVinci gives these GonGs away with each purchase, for less than 0.58% of the $250 purchase price. The GonG is a nice accessory.
I am not complaining about the mark up, DaVinci has to pay the bills, and most importantly be able to reward good employees like Joyce with a generous raise.
Oh Yeah.......now to the important part of my post, I just got a three corner file from the hardware store and scored the broken tube, then breaking off the curved portion. I now have a straight tube GonG and I will be doing a comparison of the cheap DHgate bubbler and the $110 F-bomb bubbler and reporting the results after I recover, and figure out how to post pics.

smokie said:

does the 2 year warranty on ascent start from when I received replacement unit or from date I bought it? I feel it should be from replacement date as I am on unit 4 or 5 and each one has been a month in post! So a good chunk of warranty has been used in post

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The warranty covers you for two years from the date of purchase.

If anyone is looking for an Ascent Puffitup has a good on them right now.

Norcalsun said:

If anyone is looking for an Ascent Puffitup has a good on them right now.

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Was it a code or a sale? The ones I looked at were all $250

I'm beginning to learn to use my ascent correctly and I love it, however I can't seem to find anyone complain about how difficult it is to retract the straw from the mouthpiece. I would say it is because i have big hands but it hurts like a bitch to take the straw out each time. My girlfriend with small hands has to take it out for me each time, and even she has trouble. i tried using the cap for the straw to help pull it out but even that didn't help is there an easy way to remove the straw from the top? i even removed the straws for cleaning and used the spare set and had the same problem

virtualpurple said:

Was it a code or a sale? The ones I looked at were all $250

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I believe it was a 15% coupon code plus free shipping. Can't find it again. Try to goog it.
Code is PUFFEDUP I think. There are several different codes out there, it's worth 15% off to try a few IMO.

bigjoshman said:

I'm beginning to learn to use my ascent correctly and I love it, however I can't seem to find anyone complain about how difficult it is to retract the straw from the mouthpiece. I would say it is because i have big hands but it hurts like a bitch to take the straw out each time. My girlfriend with small hands has to take it out for me each time, and even she has trouble. i tried using the cap for the straw to help pull it out but even that didn't help is there an easy way to remove the straw from the top? i even removed the straws for cleaning and used the spare set and had the same problem

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Welcome to the forum!

There have been a few comments about it on this thread (but not many). Give it a few weeks and the silicon will soften up. At first both my Ascent's were very hard to retract. But with a bit of use (and perhaps a bit of resin buildup), your problems should go away and the stem will retract much easier.

Thank you =) I'll be watching the forums to maximize efficiency and thank you for the quick response it's good to hear that it will get easier to take out the straw. I'm guessing it's the inside of the actual ascent then. I'm so glad to hear I won't have to deal with that forever haha =p I haven't had problems with the smell of silicone since I did the burn off from reading the forums.

bigjoshman said:

i tried using the cap for the straw to help pull it out but even that didn't help is there an easy way to remove the straw from the top?

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I too had trouble with it before it loosened up and 'pinching it' between thumb and middle finger tips (nails under the lip) became effective.

Before that I found that using a finger nail to pull out the loading tool (easy to do) and using that as a lever to get the stem started up (short end under the lip). A few dozen loads and the problem went away.

Good luck with it, as you've discovered Ascent is quick to amply reward those who figure it out. If you haven't tried the glass flower, by all means do. Fiddly to load, but they really up the volume and ease of use. IMO a good option sometimes if not every load?

Best wishes.

OF

I just use the metal screen that came with the ascent it is attached to the top of the second stem. I could get glass flowers if needed though. Yesterday we also noticed off gassing from the bottom of the ascent where the oven is is there a fix for this?

bigjoshman said:

I could get glass flowers if needed though. Yesterday we also noticed off gassing from the bottom of the ascent where the oven is is there a fix for this?

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Not needed as much as a simple modification that 'everyone' finds is an improvement. And cheap enough. IMO you should at least try.

That's real vapor drifting out the bottom of the unit, quite normal. No 'fix' except to hit it.......

BTW let it soak between hits (try a full minute). An insight worth considering (at least IMO) is the load is hottest just before the it starts. It only cools off as off as you hit it, a quite a bit (like 100 degrees).

OF