Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

Vinman said:

I haven't yet had to replace a screen (still using the original one), though I take it out and blow/brush it off when cleaning FFs. Since the vapor doesn't pass through the screen, screens last a really long time.

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The screens last longer the less often you remove them. Each removal tends to make the screen edge less precise, making it less effective in keeping debris off the plate, necessitating removing the screen, which causes a bit of a downhill spiral....you get the idea.

Remove them as infrequently as possible if you want longevity. And if the inevitable deterioration annoys you as much as it does me and some other users, give the 7 hole Iolite Wispr screen discs a try.

mitchgo61 said:

The screens last longer the less often you remove them. Each removal tends to make the screen edge less precise, making it less effective in keeping debris off the plate, necessitating removing the screen, which causes a bit of a downhill spiral....you get the idea.

Remove them as infrequently as possible if you want longevity. And if the inevitable deterioration annoys you as much as it does me and some other users, give the 7 hole Iolite Wispr screen discs a try.

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Pakaloo:
The effect is marvelous and the ABV becomes brown. Sidebar: I am from Wisconsin so product may not be nature's finest.
Thanks for all the replys so far/

mcisk said:

Pakaloo:
The effect is marvelous and the ABV becomes brown. Sidebar: I am from Wisconsin so product may not be nature's finest.
Thanks for all the replys so far/

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You're fine then. Visible vapour isn't necessary and many feel that the lack of exhaled vapour is a goal.

mcisk said:

Enough is Enough. Please help this Grandfather out. I have had my Firefly for about 6 months. I have read all the posts and am using the device correctly. Medication occurs every session. But...I have never expelled any vapor. Ever.
What gives? BTW: I have a WISPR as well and never expel any vapor with this as well.
Thanks all.

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If you haven't already, I would recommend exhaling next to some sort of spotlight. You might find that you're exhaling vapor that you can't quite notice without it.

And as Pakaloo said, your method sounds fine, as there would be very little wastage. If you're getting the effects and the ABV is brown, then... there's no need for visible vapor, right?

Unless little vapor elves are sneaking in and turning your herbs brown before the vapor reaches your lungs, I don't think you have a problem here...

Informed responses.
Thanks.

If you're similar to ol' EDA, then you'll want to save this post for while you're on the crapper first thing in the morning. It'll fit right in...

Cause it's a big pile of shit, see?

ESV or FF ?

Here's the short version: Firefly for (mostly) at home, and ESV for (mostly) on the road. While plenty of crossover is possible, home use plays to the FF's strengths, and away-from-home use plays to the ESV's strengths, IMO.

So... both.

Yeah, I know. Pretty weak.

But this is somewhat an apples-to-oranges comparison here, even though they're both high-end on-demand convection dry herb portables. But I think they've been designed for rather different purposes.

I am fond of both of these devices - wouldn't be able to pick one or the other because they work pretty well as a team. I appreciate and enjoy the differences. Now I have the FF to meet my daytime portable needs at home, and the ESV to do the same on the road. And a Solo to finish off all the ABV...

They both offer serious efficiency. I mention this early on because if you're like me, then the 100 % legal herbs that you seek cannot just be found down at the local store. Or even at a bordering state's local store. I'm lucky if my legal herbs even have a name. So... literally, EVERY toke matters when you find something good. It really does. I can't afford to let material drift away to conduction until late at night when I'm reusing ABV.

Okay, comparison time.

Taste

In my mind, this one is pretty obvious. When you want to savor flavor, the FF is the way to go, IMO.

I've certainly never seen Blueberry Diesel, or even know what it is, and am definitely not enjoying it right now with a very smug, satisfied look on my face, but if I were, I would imagine that it would taste fucking exquisite in the FF.

The ESV flavor is pretty darn good too, but I think the FF gives a bit more of a pure flavor. But for usage away from home, the flavor the ESV has to offer is great and won't feel like a compromise...

Looks

Again, to me, this one is pretty obvious. The FF is sleek and eye-catching and you want to show it off. It screams class and elegance. The ESV is... a black metal box. Plain and blah. It doesn't scream anything. Makes it perfect for using while you're on-the-go. And the FF can stay at home on the fireplace mantle or coffee table for when you get home...

Ease of Use

This one probably goes to ESV, due to its adjustable heat settings and lack of leaning curve and no heat button to press. Although when "mastered," a FF can offer a more unique experience, IMO.

You have to stir more with the ESV over the FF, IME. Often, if I grind, I don't have to stir at all with the FF, and it gives an even burn with a little shaking. The ESV will not give an even burn without stirring, and even with stirring I didn't find my ABV to be very even. Shaking seems to help it a little bit.

Trying to get the chamber open AND stir while on the go can be a serious pain in the ass with the ESV. With the FF, it's less difficult, but probably less stealthy.

Nevertheless, the ESV is certainly the more portable of the two, and more pocketable. The ability to charge it easily from an external battery pack is really nice.

With the ESV, you can at least check the battery level by hooking it up to the comp. Although, if your experience is similar to mine, you must supply your own cable! With the FF, you start to learn how long a battery lasts for your own particular usage.

Both, IME, benefit from a little "priming." Although, without priming, very tasty!

Neither give you many extra screens to work with. Lame!

For both, the ABV can be deceptively light, with the ESV ABV more prone to have little dark bits mixed in with light bits. Putting the material in the Solo will yield some wispy vapor, and turn the material much darker, but will have very little actual effect, IME.

Smell

Both units are NOT smelly, IMO. They ain't smell-free, but I wouldn't think twice about walking around with either in my pocket. If you pack them away and zip them up and then open it up later, some aroma will come out, but nothing worth worrying about unless you're not vaporizing 100% legal herbs and are opening up your case in the middle of a police station directly under a well trained police officer's nose in a room free of any other smells whatsoever.

Convection! Never again will I buy a conduction portable....

Stealth

ESV, all the way. I sat there today in a busy public place on a bench with the ESV and it could not have gone smoother. Now, I had nothing to worry about, as I was vaporizing 100% legal herbs, but I was worried people might think I wasn't. Luckily, there was virtually no smell created, so people knew I was a good, decent, honest, law-abiding citizen, and not some sort of weed degenerate.

Battery

Well, depends on how you look at it. The ESV, IMO, offers fantastic battery life, all things considered. The amount of power it can give off for how long it can give it off is impressive. But you will have downtime. And depending on your connection, it can charge pretty slowly. And, AFAIK, the batts are not replaceable? The FF battery life ain't great, but are designed to be changed in a second. They charge much faster. With the external charger and extra battery, you're never waiting. But you have to pay for that luxury.

I just like to have the ESV fully charged and packed and ready to go by the car keys. And with my FF, I just use it until the battery goes dead then switch it up and charge it up.

Loading

Slight edge to FF because it's so much easier to open.

Heat Up Time

Slight edge to ESV. But we're talking SECONDS here. Hard to believe, isn't it?

Cleaning

Slight edge to FF, because it's so much easier to open and get to all necessary areas. But, with some little effort, the ESV cleaning might be a little more thorough. Maybe a tie?

Airpath

This one goes to FF, and is reflected in the flavor quality, IMO. Plus, I've seen the entire airpath of the FF.

Build Quality

This one goes to the FF. My ESV had glue spills and scratches and a flaky temp level button right out of the box. My FF was perfect, and still looks incredible 9 months later. My ESV already looks beat up.

Conversely:

While the FF is built tough, the ESV seems specifically built to be thrown around and take a beating - except for the temp level switch.

Maybe another tie?

Grinding

This one matters to me, because I hate grinding. A no-grind / no-tear technique (whole nugs of 100 % legal herbs ) using the FF takes a while to master, but resulted, for me, in the best flavor I've ever experienced. I have been unable to repeat this effect with the ESV. I think the ESV GREATLY benefits from grinding. Good thing I have that gigantic Space Case laying around...

Price

With a 20% off Vapor Nation code, the edge here goes to ESV.

EDA's Final Thoughts...

At the end of the day, I like my FF more, due to my "Master's" technique and to the remarkable flavor it can give. Maybe that will change? I prefer the FF design and its style. And it just feels like a higher quality product . I feel like the Monopoly Man when I'm using it. Like I just struck millions of gallons of oil and I'm celebrating with a vape session instead of a cigar. I am an Oil Man! It offers a luxurious experience all its own, weighing in heavily on the vape signature scale.

But the ESV seems like a solid product that is great for use away from home, especially for lightweights and the one, two, three hits and quit type of user. I think it offers a more predictable experience, which helps it be such an effective portable. It is definitely a no-brainer with excellent flavor. The USB cable connection is a real plus. And the idea of software upgrades is exciting. The ESV has oodles of potential.

I must say that I did not expect to like my ESV as much as I do. Even though it's not quite as easy to use on-the-go as I'd like, and I have plenty of "Why didn't I get any vapor?" moments, it's the easiest that I've used away from home. I don't think I'll ever use it much at home, but I can see medical patients who need instant relief at regular high temps using it there...

It's also nice to keep next to the bed at night. But I actually prefer the FF next to the bed. At night, I love to take one or two tokes of 100% legal herbs and just let that flavor be in my thoughts as I fall asleep. Blueberry or Strawberry or Pineapple as your eyes close .... mmm. It's also perfect for first thing in the morning.

So yeah. FF at home, ESV on the road.

The FF is a showpiece; the ESV is a "sneaker."

And if the FF is a musical instrument, then the ESV is something out of the toolbox.

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

If you're similar to ol' EDA, then you'll want to save this post for while you're on the crapper first thing in the morning. It'll fit right in...

Cause it's a big pile of shit, see?

ESV or FF ?

Here's the short version: Firefly for (mostly) at home, and ESV for (mostly) on the road. While plenty of crossover is possible, home use plays to the FF's strengths, and away-from-home use plays to the ESV's strengths, IMO.

So... both.

Yeah, I know. Pretty weak.

But this is somewhat an apples-to-oranges comparison here, even though they're both high-end on-demand convection dry herb portables. But I think they've been designed for rather different purposes.

I am fond of both of these devices - wouldn't be able to pick one or the other because they work pretty well as a team. I appreciate and enjoy the differences. Now I have the FF to meet my daytime portable needs at home, and the ESV to do the same on the road. And a Solo to finish off all the ABV...

They both offer serious efficiency. I mention this early on because if you're like me, then the 100 % legal herbs that you seek cannot just be found down at the local store. Or even at a bordering state's local store. I'm lucky if my legal herbs even have a name. So... literally, EVERY toke matters when you find something good. It really does. I can't afford to let material drift away to conduction until late at night when I'm reusing ABV.

Okay, comparison time.

Taste

In my mind, this one is pretty obvious. When you want to savor flavor, the FF is the way to go, IMO.

I've certainly never seen Blueberry Diesel, or even know what it is, and am definitely not enjoying it right now with a very smug, satisfied look on my face, but if I were, I would imagine that it would taste fucking exquisite in the FF.

The ESV flavor is pretty darn good too, but I think the FF gives a bit more of a pure flavor. But for usage away from home, the flavor the ESV has to offer is great and won't feel like a compromise...

Looks

Again, to me, this one is pretty obvious. The FF is sleek and eye-catching and you want to show it off. It screams class and elegance. The ESV is... a black metal box. Plain and blah. It doesn't scream anything. Makes it perfect for using while you're on-the-go. And the FF can stay at home on the fireplace mantle or coffee table for when you get home...

Ease of Use

This one probably goes to ESV, due to its adjustable heat settings and lack of leaning curve and no heat button to press. Although when "mastered," a FF can offer a more unique experience, IMO.

You have to stir more with the ESV over the FF, IME. Often, if I grind, I don't have to stir at all with the FF, and it gives an even burn with a little shaking. The ESV will not give an even burn without stirring, and even with stirring I didn't find my ABV to be very even. Shaking seems to help it a little bit.

Trying to get the chamber open AND stir while on the go can be a serious pain in the ass with the ESV. With the FF, it's less difficult, but probably less stealthy.

Nevertheless, the ESV is certainly the more portable of the two, and more pocketable. The ability to charge it easily from an external battery pack is really nice.

With the ESV, you can at least check the battery level by hooking it up to the comp. Although, if your experience is similar to mine, you must supply your own cable! With the FF, you start to learn how long a battery lasts for your own particular usage.

Both, IME, benefit from a little "priming." Although, without priming, very tasty!

Neither give you many extra screens to work with. Lame!

For both, the ABV can be deceptively light, with the ESV ABV more prone to have little dark bits mixed in with light bits. Putting the material in the Solo will yield some wispy vapor, and turn the material much darker, but will have very little actual effect, IME.

Smell

Both units are NOT smelly, IMO. They ain't smell-free, but I wouldn't think twice about walking around with either in my pocket. If you pack them away and zip them up and then open it up later, some aroma will come out, but nothing worth worrying about unless you're not vaporizing 100% legal herbs and are opening up your case in the middle of a police station directly under a well trained police officer's nose in a room free of any other smells whatsoever.

Convection! Never again will I buy a conduction portable....

Stealth

ESV, all the way. I sat there today in a busy public place on a bench with the ESV and it could not have gone smoother. Now, I had nothing to worry about, as I was vaporizing 100% legal herbs, but I was worried people might think I wasn't. Luckily, there was virtually no smell created, so people knew I was a good, decent, honest, law-abiding citizen, and not some sort of weed degenerate.

Battery

Well, depends on how you look at it. The ESV, IMO, offers fantastic battery life, all things considered. The amount of power it can give off for how long it can give it off is impressive. But you will have downtime. And depending on your connection, it can charge pretty slowly. And, AFAIK, the batts are not replaceable? The FF battery life ain't great, but are designed to be changed in a second. They charge much faster. With the external charger and extra battery, you're never waiting. But you have to pay for that luxury.

I just like to have the ESV fully charged and packed and ready to go by the car keys. And with my FF, I just use it until the battery goes dead then switch it up and charge it up.

Loading

Slight edge to FF because it's so much easier to open.

Heat Up Time

Slight edge to ESV. But we're talking SECONDS here. Hard to believe, isn't it?

Cleaning

Slight edge to FF, because it's so much easier to open and get to all necessary areas. But, with some little effort, the ESV cleaning might be a little more thorough. Maybe a tie?

Airpath

This one goes to FF, and is reflected in the flavor quality, IMO. Plus, I've seen the entire airpath of the FF.

Build Quality

This one goes to the FF. My ESV had glue spills and scratches and a flaky temp level button right out of the box. My FF was perfect, and still looks incredible 9 months later. My ESV already looks beat up.

Conversely:

While the FF is built tough, the ESV seems specifically built to be thrown around and take a beating - except for the temp level switch.

Maybe another tie?

Grinding

This one matters to me, because I hate grinding. A no-grind / no-tear technique (whole nugs of 100 % legal herbs ) using the FF takes a while to master, but resulted, for me, in the best flavor I've ever experienced. I have been unable to repeat this effect with the ESV. I think the ESV GREATLY benefits from grinding. Good thing I have that gigantic Space Case laying around...

Price

With a 20% off Vapor Nation code, the edge here goes to ESV.

EDA's Final Thoughts...

At the end of the day, I like my FF more, due to my "Master's" technique and to the remarkable flavor it can give. Maybe that will change? I prefer the FF design and its style. And it just feels like a higher quality product . I feel like the Monopoly Man when I'm using it. Like I just struck millions of gallons of oil and I'm celebrating with a vape session instead of a cigar. I am an Oil Man! It offers a luxurious experience all its own, weighing in heavily on the vape signature scale.

But the ESV seems like a solid product that is great for use away from home, especially for lightweights and the one, two, three hits and quit type of user. I think it offers a more predictable experience, which helps it be such an effective portable. It is definitely a no-brainer with excellent flavor. The USB cable connection is a real plus. And the idea of software upgrades is exciting. The ESV has oodles of potential.

I must say that I did not expect to like my ESV as much as I do. Even though it's not quite as easy to use on-the-go as I'd like, and I have plenty of "Why didn't I get any vapor?" moments, it's the easiest that I've used away from home. I don't think I'll ever use it much at home, but I can see medical patients who need instant relief at regular high temps using it there...

It's also nice to keep next to the bed at night. But I actually prefer the FF next to the bed. At night, I love to take one or two tokes of 100% legal herbs and just let that flavor be in my thoughts as I fall asleep. Blueberry or Strawberry or Pineapple as your eyes close .... mmm. It's also perfect for first thing in the morning.

So yeah. FF at home, ESV on the road.

The FF is a showpiece; the ESV is a "sneaker."

And if the FF is a musical instrument, then the ESV is something out of the toolbox.

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Great comparative review mate!!! Bravo! I am glad I didn't sell my FF for the ESV…

natural farmer said:

Great comparative review mate!!! Bravo! I am glad I didn't sell my FF for the ESV…

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Definitely! I think most of us who have been spoiled by the FF will find that the ESV slides nicely into the rotation. I really like this because I was becoming concerned that I was putting a bit too much pressure on the FF. I don't like being so dependent on one vape for multiple needs, you know?

Though my FF has, to date, met all challenges I've thrown at it.

I'm not really seeing these two as competitors. I think they go hand in hand together for people who need convection portables. They definitely back each other up and can be used interchangeably in many ways.

Both are worth the price tag.

EveryDayAmnesiac said:

Definitely! I think most of us who have been spoiled by the FF will find that the ESV slides nicely into the rotation. I really like this because I was becoming concerned that I was putting a bit too much pressure on the FF. I don't like being so dependent on one vape for multiple needs, you know?

Though my FF has, to date, met all challenges I've thrown at it.

I'm not really seeing these two as competitors. I think they go hand in hand together for people who need convection portables. They definitely back each other up and can be used interchangeably in many ways.

Both are worth the price tag.

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I agree, great review. And really very similar to how I feel about the INH05. Great to use out of the house, amazing stealth and ease of use. But like every other portable I've used...not a patch on the FF. (And seriously...hit something like the INH...then hit the FF...talk about "fire and ice"...if you wanna appreciate the almost unnatural coolness of the FF vapor, do a quick A/B test with any other portable. Like, WOW.)

Unfortunately, I just combusted in my unit. I was using a whole nug that I had previously hit around 6 or 7 times an hour earlier. I took 3 or 4 additional hits in succession before noticing that the herb had charred to the point of producing ash. I wasn't leaning on the button very hard either, around 10 seconds per hit. Kinda disappointing since I never came close to combustion before. The whole nugs typically get dark on one side, but not like this. Bleh.

I'm really considering the Firefly and have read most of the posts on this thread. Yesterday, I finally was able to actually see one up close at the local head shop. Sturdy and beautiful, definitely yet the battery compartment opened almost too easily for my taste. I know this was discussed awhile back and I'm curious to find out if any of you have issues with the battery compartment accidentally opening at times? Maybe it was just that particular unit but it kind of felt like it would slip off way too easily.
On a different note: I'm going back and forth between the Pax and the Firefly. I use a Volcano at home, so this would be my travel piece. Yet taste is quite important to me and I can totally understand why the Firefly would create better tasting vapor. Then again I held them both in my hands and quite a difference in size and weight. Decisions, decisions!!

letter never sent said:

Unfortunately, I just combusted in my unit. I was using a whole nug that I had previously hit around 6 or 7 times an hour earlier. I took 3 or 4 additional hits in succession before noticing that the herb had charred to the point of producing ash. I wasn't leaning on the button very hard either, around 10 seconds per hit. Kinda disappointing since I never came close to combustion before. The whole nugs typically get dark on one side, but not like this. Bleh.

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I always found it more productive, vapor-wise, to do one pull on one side, then turn the nug around cause it already was brownish, brown the other side as well, then crumble with fingers to get the massive following hits. If you keep hitting the same side again and again, I find it logical to have a minor combustion…

sanfranciscosadhu said:

I'm really considering the Firefly and have read most of the posts on this thread. Yesterday, I finally was able to actually see one up close at the local head shop. Sturdy and beautiful, definitely yet the battery compartment opened almost too easily for my taste. I know this was discussed awhile back and I'm curious to find out if any of you have issues with the battery compartment accidentally opening at times? Maybe it was just that particular unit but it kind of felt like it would slip off way too easily.
On a different note: I'm going back and forth between the Pax and the Firefly. I use a Volcano at home, so this would be my travel piece. Yet taste is quite important to me and I can totally understand why the Firefly would create better tasting vapor. Then again I held them both in my hands and quite a difference in size and weight. Decisions, decisions!!

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Firefly for sure mate! They are like night and day in terms of flavor ime. And more efficient with herbs. You 'll have nugs to spare.

On another note, I finally got my hands on a couple of good quality small nugs and had the chance to play with my FF a little bit (Lotus got some attention as well… ). I have been using a slightly domed top screen for a couple of months and I can now safely certify that it made my sessions a lot better! Vapor path remains cleaner, I can pull harder with less tunneling effect as the dome keeps packed herb tighter, hits are bigger (possibly because of pulling harder, the FF can take a good hard draw and the heater is not overwhelmed, it just keeps pumping vapor!!!) and the taste is amazing. Convection FTW!!! I love the FF as much as the Lotus and that is a lot in my book! And the high is just amazing! ...

My Firefly arrived last week and was waiting for me on my kitchen table when I returned from a hospital visit. Couldn't have though of a better welcome home surprise!
I've charged both batteries up and given it a clean, read all of the material and played around with the heat-button without herb inside. It turns red very fast!
Excited to load it up and toke on it tonight while I watch some movies or hang out with friends. Big thank you to NamasteVapes for their continued customer support, contact availiablity, understanding and prompt shipping luxuries! Great team to deal with and would recommend them to anyone here if you want a pleasant buying experience

Glad to be apart of the Firefly Owners Club. What a fucking heavy, solid, well-designed beast of a vape!

letter never sent said:

Unfortunately, I just combusted in my unit. I was using a whole nug that I had previously hit around 6 or 7 times an hour earlier. I took 3 or 4 additional hits in succession before noticing that the herb had charred to the point of producing ash. I wasn't leaning on the button very hard either, around 10 seconds per hit. Kinda disappointing since I never came close to combustion before. The whole nugs typically get dark on one side, but not like this. Bleh.

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So real, smoke-producing combustion, as opposed to charring? Like NF I get charring on one side if I leave an unground chunk un-turned for several hits. But it's never been close to real combustion, except on two faulty units.

mitchgo61 said:

So real, smoke-producing combustion, as opposed to charring? Like NF I get charring on one side if I leave an unground chunk un-turned for several hits. But it's never been close to real combustion, except on two faulty units.

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It's hard to say. It may have been a minor combustion event. When I inspected the nug, the one side was black and when I rubbed it against my fingers, the result was an ash-like consistency. Looked like combustion to me. Maybe it wasn't?

letter never sent said:

It's hard to say. It may have been a minor combustion event. When I inspected the nug, the one side was black and when I rubbed it against my fingers, the result was an ash-like consistency. Looked like combustion to me. Maybe it wasn't?

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steama said:

Then you did not experience combustion. When you have combustion there is never any question.

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I have to agree, based on the description. If you'd left the chunk in there and kept hitting it it would continue to char and blacken but still not be combustion. Think of charring as food in the oven that overcooks and burns...and combustion as food in the oven that actually catches fire.

As Steama says, you'll know it if/when the FF combusts...you'll see a spark in the bowl, instant thick flow of smoke, smoke pouring out when you open the lid...and you would definitely need a serious iso cleaning to remove the flavor. It is a pretty dramatic and disconcerting event.

Good news is what you describe is normal for the FF when you leave one un-ground section exposed for too many hits. Breaking it up after a couple hits usually avoids it.

Used my SCS to grind a small portion of herb, packed my firefly bowl about 7/10 capacity (nice and full but not squished down) and held the Heat button for about 15 seconds, then inhaled a few times, no vape.. The only way I could have a proper session was to keep the heat button pressed for 10-15 seconds at a time while inhaling, and I got about 3-4 good draws out of it before it was cooked. Turned the herbs once mid-sesh, and I don't find the battery life to be an issue because it charges SO fast.
Excellent little device, im excited to learn how to use it better to get thicker and tastier clouds

steama said:

Are you saying you were doing a 15 second preheat, then started your inhale and had no vapor using this method? I am going to assume that we are talking about a preheat so please forgive me if I am wrong.

Users that preheat please run this simple experiment — save your battery life

1) turn your Firefly on
2) remove the lid and stick your finger in the bowl
3) press the heat button for 15 seconds leaving your finger in the bowl

You will find that this does not heat your bowl up at all. This is only wasting your battery power — that's it.

I am impressed and happy for you that you found the best way to have a proper session was to keep the heat button pressed for 10-15 seconds at a time while inhaling. This is also the best practice for extending your battery life.

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Ahhh, interesting! I will avoid a 'pre-heat' then! I am used to having to let my Arizer EQ sit there for a while while the herbs slowly warm up before a sesh, so I assumed the Firefly was similar. I'll treat the Heat Button as a lighter and simply inhale as I press it and play around with techniques. Very sturdy, beautiful device though. I feel like I own the iMac of vapes!

Deja Vu said:

Ahhh, interesting! I will avoid a 'pre-heat' then! I am used to having to let my Arizer EQ sit there for a while while the herbs slowly warm up before a sesh, so I assumed the Firefly was similar. I'll treat the Heat Button as a lighter and simply inhale as I press it and play around with techniques. Very sturdy, beautiful device though. I feel like I own the iMac of vapes!

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For me it has come down to:

1) Press button for 2-3 secs until I see a full glow
2) Begin drawing while keeping the button pressed, for 15-30 secs
3) Let the button and continue to draw for 5-10 secs to clear the vapor off the FF...

Draw should be continuous. Maybe a small pause to swallow some saliva and moisten the throat if it feels dry...

Big clouds, great taste, amazing buzz! FF is a beast!

natural farmer said:

For me it has come down to:

1) Press button for 2-3 secs until I see a full glow
2) Begin drawing while keeping the button pressed, for 15-30 secs
3) Let the button and continue to draw for 5-10 secs to clear the vapor off the FF...

Draw should be continuous. Maybe a small pause to swallow some saliva and moisten the throat if it feels dry...

Big clouds, great taste, amazing buzz! FF is a beast!

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Wow, that sounds fun! I like the idea of this, but maybe split in half to save my lungs and throat the test of endurance, and to maximize THC absorption by getting a fresh breath in-between hits.
Thank youj for sharing your technique, and I encourage others to do so. You can never know enough!

Been away from my FF for three weeks and miss it. A quick question. My technique is the same as @steama and @natural farmer, but after holding the button for about 20 seconds, it changes from flashing green to solid, so I usually stop pressing it at that point. Is there any reason to keep holding it down once it goes solid? Thanks!

steama said:

I use exactly the same technique as @natural farmer. It is good for the vapor and good for your battery. When you find something that works you realize that even a blind squirrel gets the nut sometimes.

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Me too. Same technique. First three hits are great, stir a bit, then three more and done. Is that your burn rate too? I may be reloading a bit early, but I'd rather do that than have burnt taste.

Seasoned Senior said:

Been away from my FF for three weeks and miss it. A quick question. My technique is the same as @steama and @natural farmer, but after holding the button for about 20 seconds, it changes from flashing green to solid, so I usually stop pressing it at that point. Is there any reason to keep holding it down once it goes solid? Thanks!

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When the LED goes solid it means it stopped heating so there is no need to keep pressing except if you want more vapor so you have to re-press it. My FF stops heating exactly after 30 secs though. Maybe some FFs stop at 20 secs?

twigs said:

Me too. Same technique. First three hits are great, stir a bit, then three more and done. Is that your burn rate too? I may be reloading a bit early, but I'd rather do that than have burnt taste.

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I guess it depends on strain and moisture content, right? Some last less, some more...

natural farmer said:

When the LED goes solid it means it stopped heating so there is no need to keep pressing except if you want more vapor so you have to re-press it. My FF stops heating exactly after 30 secs though. Maybe some FFs stop at 20 secs?

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They're all supposed to be 30. Both of mine stop at 30. My first (now returned) silver FF didn't shut off till 45 seconds, but the folks at FF told me that wasn't right. Not only do no two users have the exact same FF technique, it also seems like no two FFs are exactly identical.

steama said:

I love the Firefly, so well built and the battery life is fine for my meager needs. There is one characteristic I get tired of: THE NEED TO STIR. I guess I could skip stirring but it works so much better when you do. Stirring the load in the Firefly feels a bit like work to me.

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I have been using my Firefly since March. I hope my picture comes through. I'm new and have never posted a pic yet. I use a med to fine grind. I loosely fill the bowel to the top,clean off anything outside the bowl and cover it. I never have to stir, just give it a good shake between hits. I start drawing at the first blink and go to 9-10 blinks. I get about 10 tasty hits. The 1st 5 being the most tasty. I use mine primarily at home. I do take it on trips to friends or motels when I'm traveling. I have 2 chargers and 4 batteries. So taking it with me on 1/2 day hikes is great. I am super happy with mine.