DC Log vape with temp control?

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Seren

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The E-Nano is AC with a built in temp dial - & is an awesome log - I :luv: mine. The Hi and Underdog I believe are both DC, but they don't have a built in temp control dial. However, you can use them with a variable voltage power supply to adjust the temp to your needs and preference.

Hope that helps :) :peace:
 
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EveryDayAmnesiac

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Let's all jump aboard the Voltage Keeper Fanboy Express for just a moment...

I use my HI with a mini Voltage Keeper and could not be happier with the product or the man in charge - professional and candid. Although maybe a bit verbose at times, but then again so am I! ... ;)

I know some people find the temp. dial of the Nano to be more convenient than a vvps, and maybe they're right, but I prefer a vvps to the temp dial. Not only do I experience more precision, but I love having the VK itself around. It's got style, attitude, and a whole deceptively simple vibe that is really "attractive."

It's a top tier member of the vape station. I love it as much as I do my HI or my FF and it looks so damn cool in the vapor lab. Adds a layer of "class" to my setup.

Hell, sometimes when I'm not using my VK I just like to hold it, study it, appreciate it, etc. What some call an inconvenience, I consider a member of my trailer home family...

God, I now live in a trailer home. What the hell happened to me?

Anyway, we're not talking some big ol' bulky thing here taking up a lot of space. Look at it:

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You're telling me you'd rather have a plain ol' little dial than this work of electrical art?

Different strokes to move the world, I guess... :lol:

Not trying to upset you Nano-lovers... keep in mind, I was once one of you! :rockon:
 

Egzoset

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Salutations DonDizzurp,

Does this exist?

Yes.



« Portable On The Go Power Supply For Your INAVAP Vaporizer. Connects to any cigarette lighter adapter. Long 6' Durable Cord. »

« Variable temperature models will use less then 10 watts when temp is lowered. »

But couldn't find much more information than that... Ask the others if it's "Log" enough, in any case.

M'well it's not made of wood for sure, obviously. Though it's not too different in shape i guess, right?

:peace:
 
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215z

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It seems to me a lot of you are describing voltage control or power control, which to some extent serves as a proxy for temperature control. Do any of these logs have actual temperature control? Using say a thermocouple and a PID circuit.
 
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stickstones

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I don't know of any log vape that users a thermocouple. The vvps accomplishes variable temps but we don't know the temp.
 
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max

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Salutations DonDizzurp,



Yes.



« Portable On The Go Power Supply For Your INAVAP Vaporizer. Connects to any cigarette lighter adapter. Long 6' Durable Cord. »

« Variable temperature models will use less then 10 watts when temp is lowered. »

But couldn't find much more information than that... Ask the others if it's "Log" enough, in any case.

M'well it's not made of wood for sure, obviously. Though it's not too different in shape i guess, right?

:peace:
There's a reason the Inavap thread has been dead since '09. http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/inavap.252/
 

Egzoset

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Salutations,

So, the web site would be abandoned since 2012 and this isn't actually thermostatic at all. Right?

:doh:

...or am i assuming wrong again?

It seems to me a lot of you are describing voltage control or power control, which to some extent serves as a proxy for temperature control.

So true!...

:peace:
 
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EveryDayAmnesiac

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That's exactly why I'm looking for something similar to the e-nano but DC rather than AC.

You get a feel for the temps after using a vvps a little while.

Unless you're using an Herbalizer, it's all an estimate anyway. Even with an Herbalizer...

It's not like the Nano gives you an exact temperature.

It seems to me a lot of you are describing voltage control or power control, which to some extent serves as a proxy for temperature control. Do any of these logs have actual temperature control? Using say a thermocouple and a PID circuit.

I think the EV-2 might have at least half of that. :shrug:

In any event, I don't much care if it's a "proxy." My HI + VK = temp control.
 
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Egzoset

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Salutations 215z,
Salutations Snappo,

Do any of these logs have actual temperature control?
In any event, I don't much care if it's a "proxy."...

As far as i'm concerned the issue i see is that it's not pleasant to report information from a manufaturer's web site in good faith only to find it could be misleading. Actually i've instisted repeatedly over calling these "rheostatic", despite some popular resistance actually...

So, we're back to zero it seems. Now i got that right finally, no?

Check out the Underdog - you won't be sorry!

There's power control with this one?

:peace:
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Salutations 215z,
Salutations Snappo,




As far as i'm concerned the issue i see is that it's not pleasant to report information from a manufaturer's web site in good faith only to find it could be misleading. Actually i've instisted repeatedly over calling these "rheostatic", despite some popular resistance actually...

So, we're back to zero it seems. Now i got that right finally, no?



There's power control with this one?

:peace:
The answer is simple, forget about knowing the precise temp - just explore the dial a little and find your sweet spot. This needn't be rocket science - ENJOY!!!
 

EveryDayAmnesiac

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Salutations 215z,
Salutations Snappo,




As far as i'm concerned the issue i see is that it's not pleasant to report information from a manufaturer's web site in good faith only to find it could be misleading. Actually i've instisted repeatedly over calling these "rheostatic", despite some popular resistance actually...

So, we're back to zero it seems. Now i got that right finally, no?

Egzoset, as usual, I have no idea what it is you're trying to say.

Can you dumb this down a shade? Or at least change the wording? :)
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Salutations EveryDayAmnesiac,



What purpose does this portraying serve?

I was about to answer Snappo but instead i'll ignore this thread from now on before the usual scenario develops.

:peace:
@Egzoset - I'd be interested to know your thoughts regarding my post.
 
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EveryDayAmnesiac

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Salutations EveryDayAmnesiac,



What purpose does this portraying serve?

I was about to answer Snappo but instead i'll ignore this thread from now on before the usual scenario develops.

:peace:

Whoa. Dude. My apologies. I just meant that your posts are always way above my understanding, is all.

And I truly, and simply, didn't understand what you were saying. And I merely asked for a clarification.

No hate here, bro.
 

z9

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Rheostatic as in it doesn't directly control the temperature of the heater, instead it directly controls the amount of current the heater receives therefore indirectly controlling the heat output. The title does inquire about "temperature control" which the vaporizer @Egzoset linked to and VVPS's don't technically control.

You can't go wrong with the Nano or UD/HI with a VK. I've owned them all for some time and have no favorite. True "temperature control" or not, I believe everyone needs some way to control the amount of heat entering the bowl whether you can adjust the distance between the heater or the amount of power the heater is receiving to have complete vaporizing experience.
 
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EveryDayAmnesiac

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Rheostatic as in it doesn't directly control the temperature of the heater, instead it directly controls the amount of current the heater receives therefore indirectly controlling the heat output. The title does inquire about "temperature control" which the vaporizer @Egzoset linked to and VVPS's don't technically control.

Okay, so by this rationale, the E-Nano has true temperature "control" ?
 
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z9

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Okay, so by this rationale, the E-Nano has true temperature "control" ?


Well no because the E-Nano doesn't use a thermocouple or something comparable; VVPS's and Nano's use a potentiometer or something similar. (Disclaimer: I know just enough about these things to get myself in trouble, hopefully I don't embarrass myself too badly)

Edit: Potentiometers/rheostats will fluctuate along with the output from your outlet whereas a thermocouple shouldn't since it directly monitors temperature and adjusts accordingly to have a consistent heat output. One measures and controls heat output, the other only controls current/voltage. Disclaimer: I know just enough about this stuff to get myself into trouble
 
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EveryDayAmnesiac

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Well no because the E-Nano doesn't use a thermocouple or something comparable; VVPS's and Nano's use a potentiometer or something similar. (Disclaimer: I know just enough about these things to get myself in trouble, hopefully I don't embarrass myself too badly)

Edit: Potentiometers/rheostats will fluctuate along with the output from your outlet whereas a thermocouple shouldn't since it directly monitors temperature and adjusts accordingly to have a consistent heat output. One measures and controls heat output, the other only controls current/voltage. Disclaimer: I know just enough about this stuff to get myself into trouble

Thank you for your time and patience! This is an interesting distinction that I was unaware of.

Unless it has to do with alcohol or modern popular culture, or making adolescents laugh, then I'm probably unaware of it. :lol:
 

215z

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"We are back to zero"
@Egzoset it seems a device was mentioned here with temperature control - the Herbalizer. It is not the traditional log shape, but you can set the temperature numerically. I also think the Evo has temperature control, although you can not set the temperature numerically.

It also seems that folks using voltage/power/current control are very happy with their vaporizer experience. Perhaps, true temperature control of either the airflow or the heating element does not add materially to the vaporization experience.

edit:neither are DC
 
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z9

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Gah my old smartphone doesn't like FC mobile and messed up my disclaimer, the FF may also be a culprit but I don't like pointing fingers.

Thank you forcomplete and patience! This is an interesting distinction that I was unaware of.

Unless it has to do with alcohol or modern popular culture, or making adolescents laugh, then I'm probably unaware of it. :lol:

Haha well your posts typically made me laugh... I guess that means I haven't matured much


"We are back to zero"
@Egzoset it seems a device was mentioned here with temperature control - the Herbalizer. It is not the traditional log shape, but you can set the temperature numerically. I also think the Evo has temperature control, although you can not set the temperature numerically.

It also seems that folks using voltage/power/current control are very happy with their vaporizer experience. Perhaps, true temperature control of either the airflow or the heating element does not add materially to the vaporization experience.

edit:neither are DC
7th Floor and any log (excluding MANY others) use the same basic potentiometer setup, so costs aside there is something to be said about the simplicity and performance of this setup.

The EVO and Herbie do have true temperature control, there should be a couple more vaporizers in this category. I don't think "Perpetuheat" is much more than VXH's application of a high quality thermocouple. Being able to fine-tune my EVO doesn't make me any less happy with my logs or FF.

I think true temperature control does add to the experience for some, namely medical patients. Many (myself included) will get the same end result (vaked and happy) with or without the extra control and be satisfied.
 
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