Anyone mix abv with fresh herb

mtnberner

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I know some vapes require a certain amount of herb in the chamber to function properly, that being said does anyone leave in a little abv in and put fresh green herb on top? I cherish my abv, so I don't feel like experimenting. Is the adv trash after the fresh stuff is spent? Do you just mix the green in, or put a layer on top?
 
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In the past I've mixed some lightly toasted ABV with fresh herb in ELB's (or GONG's when I had my Nano) for something a little more sedative at night but it isn't something I typically do. I wouldn't do it just to take up space in my bowl since it compromises taste and changes the high.
 
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I don't see why you couldn't though it would ruin the flavor of your fresh herb.

IMO You're probably better off over-packing your chamber (more than you might want for the session), starting the session with one or maybe two draws, and then turning it off. Come back later, take another draw then thoroughly stir to break up the ABV to produce more flavor.

There's a bunch of threads dedicated to ABV - you can eat, reclaim or toss your herb. If you're interested in eating ABV, search this site for Firecrackers or ABV Milkshake - those are the two most popular methods it seems. I personally use some to make low dose brownies for my wife, and the rest I'm using to reclaim for use on a bed of fresh herb in my Nano
 
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Grim Chiclets

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Every once in a while I add fresh herb to a lightly browned load, I always mix it well, and it treats me well :zzz:
 
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Egzoset

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Salutations MtnBerner,

mtnberner said:
Is the abv trash after the fresh stuff is spent?
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That from my HerbalAire wasn't worth the time & effort as an experiment showed me it only had tar/cauldron to offer even after a water cure. The modded VG pipe is another story, i'm still on a learning curve so the results can still vary wildly on occasions and hence there's some blond ABV i accumulated in a jar while the rest looks too roasted and/or combusted to go in as well - not to mention i hate burns reminescence hints when there's little aroma/taste left to compensate.

:peace:
 
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When I used to smoke up my friend who never paid me for herb I would always mix in abv / fresh herb. Its fine in bowls or joints.
 
CarolKing

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I've heard a lot of FCers save the lighter ABV for evening because of the couch lock affects. I think that's a wise use of materials IMO. I've heard @stickstones save his ABV for evening. I say each to there own. Why label something the idiots blend?
 
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Depends on the herb your using. Not a good thing to be wasteful.
 
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z9

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steama said:
Why take something good and make it less good on purpose? I would call this ABV/bud mix the Idiot's Blend.
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steama said:
No, mixing fresh herb with ABV is ALWAYS a downgrade.
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Hahaha @steama you must have been vaping the "ignorance blend" because you couldn't be more wrong. Please read up on decarboxylation and threads about the use of ABV before saying things like this. Not everyone's goal is to simply get high; using ABV doesn't downgrade the effects, it just changes them.

Its been proven that there are a LOT of compounds left over after vaporizing, even when using high temperatures. Vaporizing weed changes its chemical composition and ratio of compounds, therefore changing its effects. This is why many people with forms of chronic pain prefer ABV over fresh herb for pain relief. Vaporize lightly toasted ABV and you will realize that the heady effects are less pronounced but the euphoria, sleepiness and pain revealing properties are there and possibly more noticeable. Many people concentrate their ABV because of these things.


YMMV but for me, fresh herb can leave me a little edgy or hyper around bedtime. Vaporize straight ABV before bed and yeah I feel the euphoria and fall asleep but the effects and taste leave something to be desired. Vaporize both and I get that punch between the eyes (which I love btw) and I get a higher ratio of compounds that allow me to sleep.

Yeah the heady effects might be considered "downgraded" if fresh herb is displaced with ABV but overall the effects are simply changed, not decreased.
 
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CarolKing

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I've had some pretty potent ABV. I'm not talking about dark. Im talking about light ABV with more life left. If you're looking for flavor it won't be there, mixing a bit of fresh makes it taste better. But it medicates, that's the bottom line. I have access to top shelf mmj, I'm not talking about shit weed.

I'm not looking for an argument, just a suggestion.

EDIT: Yes I've had ABV from something like AK47 that was more potent than Skywalker Og fresh herb.
 
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z9

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mtnberner said:
I know some vapes require a certain amount of herb in the chamber to function properly, that being said does anyone leave in a little abv in and put fresh green herb on top
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THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE THREAD. The OP just wants to use ABV to take up bowl space, not to displace the amount of fresh herb they use in a session or to mix it in with their stash at a perfect 1:1 ratio

steama said:
Wow, totally fucking unbelievable. ABV more potent than the herb itself. Okey-dokey. This thread has dropped so many IQ points I must escape.
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Yeah some people decarboxylate their herb prior to using to increase effects, its called :science:

steama said:
Would you ever buy your stash that way? Half ABV and half fresh herb? Would you buy water mixed with milk?
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That doesn't even make sense, of course I wouldn't buy bud if half of it was vaped. If I want half a cup of milk it doesn't matter if I add half a cup of water to it and drink it because regardless I'll drink half a cup of milk in the process.

steama said:
If you mix ABV with fresh herb the mix will be much less dank. What is it about this you do not understand?
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z9 said:
Yeah the heady effects might be considered "downgraded" if fresh herb is displaced with ABV but overall the effects are simply changed, not decreased.
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.1 grams of fresh herb gives me .1 worth of compounds when vaporized. .1 of fresh herb plus .o5 of ABV still gives me .1 grams worth of compounds out of my fresh herb so how exactly is the mix less potent than just fresh herb? It doesn't take anything away...


I really enjoy the passive aggressive tone in your posts, we can do this all night @steama
 
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steama said:
Wow, totally fucking unbelievable. ABV more potent than the herb itself. Okey-dokey. This thread has dropped so many IQ points I must escape.
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I don't think you were reading the thread the same way I was, @steama. You were arguing a conter-point to a point that no one was making.

I recommend toning down the rhetoric as your posts are not warm with the spirit of our "Be Nice" rule. It's only a recommendation if you don't like collecting warning points.

:peace:
 
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Personally I wouldnt mix ABV with fresh flowers because of two main reasons. The compromise of taste, and I save all of my ABV for edibles. I would go so far as to say I enjoy the buzz from my weekly ABV Oatmeal (which is a personal recipe I have cultivated and improved over the past half year) even more than the vaping buzz. So my Oatmeal is very potent! :razz:

So to me the idea of mixing fresh flowers and ABV does not compute. :shrug: However this is all subjective.
 
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I use the technique of mixing ABV with fresh flowers (and glass flowers) It stretches my stash. I also use the opportunity to extract more medicine from light brown ABV.
I use a graduated temp settings technique. I do not decearn any decrease in taste of the buds when mixed with ABV.
The potency of the load is increased with the addition of ABV. There is a higher ratio of the more sedating,analgesic, and anxiolytic cannabinoids when ABV is added to the load (given that the load is vaped eventually at high temps)
I'm searching for uses for my huge ABV stash. Gonna have some oatmeal tomorrow morning :-)
 
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steama said:
Why take something good and make it less good on purpose? I would call this ABV/bud mix the Idiot's Blend.
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I sometimes do what Grim Chiclets said. If I load up my vape, but only take a few hits before shutting it off, the next time I use it I'll add some fresh in along with the ABV thats already in there. Actually this is what I primarily do with my kief. That way I get a "full spectrum" hit instead of just the ABV dregs.

That said, I don't ever add stored ABV in with fresh weed. That's for cooking and I can get more out of the ABV in a butter than by vaping it another time. I only use fresh weed / kief as top off for lightly / moderately vaped weed (i.e making "less good" better).
 
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Hey guys. You know how you got that new feature where you can ban from a thread? Well get ready. not that it will be necessary. Did someone seriously ask that question or was it robotic spam? Are you out ..#!#&*¿¿¿??? @!#
 
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u bwade wunner said:

ABV Brownies are awesome.

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ABV Brownies are pretty good. I noticed more a relaxed, anxiolytic state (rather than euphoria), where I noticed I just missed the last 3 minutes of a Law and Order while I dozed into a nice comfort zone. I work my ABV most times til its black so my brownies required double dosing. Love the taste. It helps you sleep well throughout the night. I had to pull out a few crunchy glass flowers mixed in. LOL
 
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