Herbstick Vaporizer

Mine was planned for today but, as expected, it didn't arrived...

Tomorrow will be another day and maybe I can put my hands on it (and my 05 and my Core!)

have recieved mine yesterday, but a heavy flu will prevent me from testing it for a couple of days :/ lost my tasting and smelling senses, but I think mine was used already, smells like there was something in before.

looks good so far (except for the ugly golden color). it's definitely an original design(!) and the airpath is sealed, so there is no hot air coming from within the units electronics.
fresh air gets in the herb chamber through a small whole in the mouthpiece (wich unfortunately doesn't fit into a 14mm connector perfectly, since it's a bit too short)
they even had some really good ideas. For example there is a little pin on the mouthpiece that leads iside of the herb chamber, if you turn the mouthpiece while attached, it will stir your herbs inside.

Sounds good.... EXCEPT for the whole "used" thing. Not sure how I would feel about that if I payed for a new one.

omg, no i haven't paid for it...! this is a testing device for my blog, but they have tested it themself too, I guess there also was no real packaging. It came in a ecig sleeve. Looking forward what PPN will tell us about it!

edit: btw. what stands out is that the unit stays extremely cool, even after 6 cycles (10min each) it was still cold.

Like me he didn't pay it (for review) but I'll prefer to get a completly new unit...

hows it feel in your hands? looks bulky. so did you test it yet. mind expanding your usage in detail?

actually it's not. about the size of a pinnacle pro! A bit heavier, though and less cheap.
and it stays very cool while using it.
No, haven't tested it yet I have a flu and strong throat irritations and I don't dare to use a vaporizer (except for bags!) atm, I couldn't taste anything anyway right now

so wheres the company located? the site looks really crappy... their e hookah reminds me of the double cart persi, but just bigger battery.

hongkong and shenzen. ciggo.com is written on the units bottom

I'm interested in a detailed review. This unit seems pretty interesting but I def need to hear more for u guys

please give me 1,5 week and i will have it! maybe ppn is faster, though

Here my first unboxing review;

since it's a free sample unit I don't get the box (it was in a e-cig pouch) but I get all the accessories (user guide,pipe cleaners, a nice metal brush and a packing tool),and the charging cord, only the wall adaptater misses (not a big deal since it's the same than for my Xp).
the unit look solid and well built, 3cm of diameter (max), 14.5cm high (a bit smaller than a xp without the cap), I get a red unit, I'm not in love with the design but it's not really bad.

Now about the performances, I made some empty burns at max, I can't find a real robot fart but the mp smells like chemicals, after I loaded it with some White widows auto (actually my only strain, don't produce a lot of vapor and taste sweeth and smooth) and turned it on at max level (red), I waited between 1 and 2 mnn before the led blinks 2 time to tell me it reach the t°= no vapor or very whispy clouds if you wait at least 30s between hits....abv comes out dark after a 10mn session, I got medicated a bit but the clouds miss (all my others portables vapes produce more clouds).

Airflow is very open and not restricted at all, there is a stir pick on the mp (so you can turn it to stir without open the oven) but vapor production is really poor.

I know my meds was not the best (but it works with all my others vape...) and maybe I need more testing (small loads, fine and coarse grinding, loosely or packed) but I don't really want to waste too much meds with this one actually...

Maybe i get a defective unit which don't heat enough...I'm waiting for the Mrweed review

Maybe I didn't charge enough my unit but the charge turned off after 1 hour and the led battery indicator told me it was full....

I expected more from this one, I'm a bit disappointed but I'll contact Bauway (if they can fix my issue)

PPN said:

Maybe i get a defective unit which don't heat enough...I'm waiting for the Mrweed review

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hmm actually that could be the case with mine too, like I said, the unit stays very cool, generally. I find that very untypical and also had the idea that it could be possible that it doesn't produce enough heat! i hope that's not the case. Will try to find out as soon as possible.

I get a answer from Bauway about the lack of clouds, they explain to me to don't load more than the silicon ring and they told me vapor production increase after 3 draws;

I tried a packed bowl (àla pax) just under the silicon ring and turned my fully charged unit to max temp, i waited the led blinks (it reachs the temp) and started to take 3 long and slow puffs (I waited at least 20s between hits) but I can't see any vapor at all, unit is warm after 5mn of use, very little effects and quasi-no clouds BUT the abv cames out darker than with my Xp at 6, I don't understand what is happenning here.....slow cooking maybe?

There is a strange taste, a bit fruity (I read somebodyelse told about this taste in another thread...), it comes from the unit itself (not only the mp) and actually didn't disappear....it's not a plastic or robot fart taste like the Titan-1 but like a synthetic flavor.....?!?

Battery lifetime is decent but not amazing, I can get 6x10mn sessions before it needs to be charged.

it's a disappointment cause it could be a nice on the go device, it need some improvement, I hope Bauway will do it!

after spoke with Bauway I'm pretty sure my unit is defective, they told me I might get big vapor on max level, they are trying to fix the issue.....wait and see

Every new unit knows issues!

sooooo, finally i had the time to test it in detail. first of all: it does not have a negative smell or taste. What I've smelled the day it arrived was pipe tobacco they have used in it before (that's also what I've thought I've smelled, to be honest)

the herbstick also does get hot enough and it CAN produce a lot of vapor... but it doesn't! However, I've found out what's the reason for it. It has definitely something to do with the mouthpiece. If you have it attached: very less vapor BUT if you put it of, the herbs emit a lot of nice vapor, instantly.
can you please confirm this @PPN ?

the question is: where does it go?! It does not come out of the mouthpiece, that's for sure.
So actually I think it does not get enough air to build up the vapor (OR the vapor gets too thin, when mixed with fresh air, but I doubt that, since vapor should leak out of the mouthpiece, which does not happen)

the good news here is that this is a problem the company should be able to fix and if they can, this seems very solid. it definitely has potential! anyway, that just shows us again how important it is to do proper beta testing!


btw. @PPN is it possible that they have used your unit before, too?
mine smelled like some sweet tobacco vanilla/caramel flavor or something and 2 days ago he told me that he has used pipe tobacco in it. I've only told him that it smelled funky to me!
Maybe they have used a fruity pipe tobacco in yours?

mrweed said:

sooooo, finally i had the time to test it in detail. first of all: it does not have a negative smell or taste. What I've smelled the day it arrived was pipe tobacco they have used in it before (that's also what I've thought I've smelled, to be honest)

the herbstick also does get hot enough and it CAN produce a lot of vapor... but it doesn't! However, I've found out what's the reason for it. It has definitely something to do with the mouthpiece. If you have it attached: very less vapor BUT if you put it of, the herbs emit a lot of nice vapor, instantly.
can you please confirm this @PPN ?

the question is: where does it go?! It does not come out of the mouthpiece, that's for sure.
So actually I think it does not get enough air to build up the vapor (OR the vapor gets too thin, when mixed with fresh air, but I doubt that, since vapor should leak out of the mouthpiece, which does not happen)

the good news here is that this is a problem the company should be able to fix and if they can, this seems very solid. it definitely has potential! anyway, that just shows us again how important it is to do proper beta testing!


btw. @PPN is it possible that they have used your unit before, too?
mine smelled like some sweet tobacco vanilla/caramel flavor or something and 2 days ago he told me that he has used pipe tobacco in it. I've only told him that it smelled funky to me!
Maybe they have used a fruity pipe tobacco in yours?

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Yes I noticed when you take off the mp you can see vapor escaping from the bowl, not a ton but more than you get with the mp in place...
So, after your previous post I tried to fit a small stainless steel tubing (coming from an old dead W9 EO cartridges) in the air inlet to lead fresh air in the center of the load, so it is placed parallelium to the stirring tool....
I hoped a nice result after to read your deductions but , even if I was able to see a bit more vapor, it was far than I expected....

What do you think about my mod? maybe it don't heat enough....

yes I think they tried it with red fruits flavoured tobacco

actually, i think a stem like the one from the arizer solo would be the solution!
unfortunately, it doesn't fit into the oven

I don't understand what you are thinking about cause a solo stem is only a glass tube, isn't it?
Here we need a mp with air inlet cause if you only put a tube in the bowl there is no air inlet to create vapor....so I think a glass tube will not help here.

I thought the places where the fresh air come in the bowl and the place where you pull the vapor are too near so when you draw you are just taking the fresh air coming from the air inlet...that's why I put a tube to lead the fres air deeper in the bowl and far of the vapor path....but, if it helps a bit, it's not enough to create satisfying hits.... I think the better would be a traditionnal air inlets placed under the bowl or on the side and discontinue the mp+air inlet.

I'll continue testing and mods when I got enough meds to waste a bit...

The arizer solo stem is exactly what you've said, a glass tube and plenty air gets into the bowl because of this! That's exactly how the solo works. It's like an stove pipe. The planet vape stems have extra air slits for better airflow on the outside. This would truely restrict the aur flow, but i think it would work

It's cool that you guys did not have to pay to test these devices.

Again it's the confirmation that they (Chinese) don't (or can't) test them with what we intend to use them... It's perfectly possible that you would get good clouds with some organic tobacco inside the bowl though...

I find the design a bit awkward anyways...

I'm impressed! Recieved a mail from these guys today and they have already designed a new mouthpiece for it! That was very quick... if that has fixed the problem, I have no concerns to give it a good review

soooo, actually I feel kind of stupid right now that I didn't think about it earlier...
I've recieved the updated mouthpiece last week and at first I had no luck with it, too.
Than I had an idea... "remember the pax is a conduction vaporizer as well, and for some reasons you need to pack it tight for the best result." well, it's the same with the herbstick, apparently. If you pack it tight you get some fine visible vapor. Still the herbstick is not a cloud machine like the Imag, but it gives you some very tasty vapor, for a quite long time... even with the old mouthpiece!
@PPN can you please confirm this?

It's the same with the FM and the Ascent (re the packing)

It's not exactly the same, though. I never packed the FM for example as tight as I have to with the herbstick and still had some visible vapor, while the herbstick doesn't give you any visible vapor if it's not packed very tight. also it still takes the herbstick quite a long time to get you the first visible vapor. maybe 2minutes after the temperature setting has been reached.