Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
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215z
Well-Known Member
Normally @itschad I'd say the same thing that @OB said. A compressed coil is like a ribbed pipe, and has a much lower resistance than the same number of wraps when wires don't touch. But for some reason, you've got some really high resistance wire in your hands. This might be a way to make the best of it. You might find this calculator useful for your coils.
DaNi_DuB
Vapor Enthusiast
Percy + herc + water filtration
MaxVapor
The Professor
Yeah, ok, I need that.... Any idea of when it will be available?
Thanks, I'll check that out and also give tightening my wraps a try. Where did you get your kanthal of you dont mind me asking?
http://www.kidneypuncher.com/kanthal-a-1-wire/ that's the exact one i ordered, in 28g
215z
Well-Known Member
I get my Kanthal from a local ecig store. They buy theirs from TEMCO. Many ecig users buy the same wire in large spools on ebay. My resistance measurements always seem to be close to that calculator. It is possible kidney puncher mismarked your wire or that you have a poor connection somewhere. If the legs of your coil aren't making good connections to the shell and the positive pin, you'll get a high resistance reading.
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I suspect that this might also be an issue as well, as i'll start off with maybe a cm or so poking out from the center pin and insulator and get a high resistance (sometimes over 2.5) just by probing the carts threads and center pin. After numerous trimmings with the nail clippers and having the wire so short that it barely reaches the 'lip' on the inside of where the threads are, or come like half way up the inside of the insulator for the center pin
Kingsmoke9
New Member
Okay. I understand thanks! But I need another favor for help. What's the best loading tool for the herc? And does adding two coils to the chamber increase load? I literally just got my Hercules 2 days ago....sooooo many questions.
1 coil, load .3 to get the coil going, and another .2 and your good to go, load from the top after taking out the mouth piece and the top ss cap.
Kiss Globes can not go into ISO, only the coil section can. Not the whole thing.
ED421
Well-Known Member
So the coil section should just have the top/cup part soaked in ISO. How about the bottom part of the KISS globe cart, the part the coil section screws into? Mine has a little splatter on the top of it. Can I soak that or should I just wipe it with some ISO and Q-Tip? I'm assuming the globe and mouthpiece are fine to soak.
Kingsmoke9
New Member
Okay. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I use a small but thick needle to scrape up wax from my well and I try to cool the wax in my fridge before dropping either a snake looking cool or just a ball of wax down. Is there any method that is better or a tool that can simplify the loading of viscous substances?
To get the oil back out of the lower chamber I usually stand the upper tank upright with the rod in place (with the aid of a dabber with a round eye on the end). Then gently heat the lower chamber with a lighter or torch on low, and pour the oil back into the upper chamber. ( kind of reminds me of loading the Omicron EO carts). Just be careful when pouring back not to pour through the air holes in the side of the lower tank.
Vape Dr.
Well-Known Member
I agree with @DieHard. I think a torch lighter is a must have.
I use the torch lighter to heat the outside of my KISS and Hercules cart to get it "fluidic" so I can scrape the insides down with my spatula tipped dab tool.
Just be careful. If you heat up the outside of the kiss cart too hot, oil will leak out of the side holes.
If you heat up the walls of the Hercules too hot, you risk oil leaking down into the reclaim chamber.
@Kingsmoke9 be very careful with refrigerated oil/wax around the coil, I just broke one by being in a hurry and loading cold oil.
When I use cold wax, I just put my dab container on top of an energy efficient light bulb for a few minutes.
That way you can scoop out some oil, hold it above the cart your filling and heat the dab tool above the dab tool and let it drip into the cart.
This works great for me, but I've only been using oil as of this year and am finding out easier and easier ways as I keep vaping. I'm sure there's tons of methods other members could share with you.
Perhaps @Caligula will chime in and give his method to his madness
. He is who I would ask for advice if I was having any issues that are oil related.
I use the torch lighter to heat the outside of my KISS and Hercules cart to get it "fluidic" so I can scrape the insides down with my spatula tipped dab tool.
Just be careful. If you heat up the outside of the kiss cart too hot, oil will leak out of the side holes.
If you heat up the walls of the Hercules too hot, you risk oil leaking down into the reclaim chamber.
@Kingsmoke9 be very careful with refrigerated oil/wax around the coil, I just broke one by being in a hurry and loading cold oil.
When I use cold wax, I just put my dab container on top of an energy efficient light bulb for a few minutes.
That way you can scoop out some oil, hold it above the cart your filling and heat the dab tool above the dab tool and let it drip into the cart.
This works great for me, but I've only been using oil as of this year and am finding out easier and easier ways as I keep vaping. I'm sure there's tons of methods other members could share with you.
Perhaps @Caligula will chime in and give his method to his madness
. He is who I would ask for advice if I was having any issues that are oil related.
Caligula
Maximus
I'm lazy as fuck bro. Plus I live in the land of milk and honey so I have my pick of a multitude of different concentrates and consistencies. Basically I only buy snap and pull type shatter so all I need to do is pull some off the slab with my fingers, roll it into a ball and drop it down into the Herc. More often than not this results in the ball getting stuck to the inside walls of the chamber, so I use use a chopstick to push it down.
If it's too runny/sticky at room temp I'll blast the oil in the freezer for a minute so I can handle it without the oil sticking to everything.
Pro tip: remove the outer PTFE shell before doing this. Getting oil in the threads for the top cap can cause bad times to be had if you don't notice and clean it right away.
Edit: im baked as hell... what cart were you talking about and are you talking reloading reclaim?
If it's too runny/sticky at room temp I'll blast the oil in the freezer for a minute so I can handle it without the oil sticking to everything.
Pro tip: remove the outer PTFE shell before doing this. Getting oil in the threads for the top cap can cause bad times to be had if you don't notice and clean it right away.
Edit: im baked as hell... what cart were you talking about and are you talking reloading reclaim?
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joekar
This IS my happy face..
Cleaned my Herc yesterday and due to my own stupidity I lost the new, nifty top cap of the SR74X upgrade...The threads on the old top are a bit rough ... 
"Thankfully I have a Kiss cart and globe set to keep me medicated...
I, too had the three flash-no fire tango a few times...Has not acted up in a week or two..Seems Ok now..
Peace
"Thankfully I have a Kiss cart and globe set to keep me medicated...I, too had the three flash-no fire tango a few times...Has not acted up in a week or two..Seems Ok now..
Peace
SamuraiSam
Extraction Technician
This topic has come up a few times in the history of this thread: The Herc chambers are made of stainless steel, not titanium, and should not be torched. Not "even with a small torch, low flame, held far away". This will damage the Herc over time. It could also potentially off gas nasties into your oil. Which goes into your lungs. I wouldn't do it.
If you want to use heat to melt the oil your best bit is a high quality temperature controlled heat gun!
I only learned the error of my ways a few months ago. And luckily have gotten the -74x chambers since then.
As far as the original question:
1st off only use that much if you are priming 2 coils. Use a quarter gram if priming 1 coil. And make sure to draw while priming don't just push the button. If it is still leaking then you aren't cooling down properly. Cool down has been discussed a lot just in the last few pages....
To reclaim I usually pull the chamber apart and wipe all the oil off I can with a silicone scraper tool and stick it back in the chamber up top. If you want to get the last 5% of oil you're thinking correctly with ever clear but instead of a ziploc and shaking, I'd use a glass jar and let it soak.
I have to disagree with @SamuraiSam about heating the Herc. When I heat the reclaim chamber I am getting it no hotter than it gets during normal use. Just enough heat to liquify the oil. I surmise that if heating the chamber (as much heat as I am applying) is dangerous or damaging, then so is using it normally.
I am trying to figure out how your top cap is staying in there. Are you using it without the outer heat shield? Sometimes the o-rings get misplaced when installing/removing. A little water (or spit, sorryI think I need new orings for my nibbler. Most of my thick ones that seal well are starting to rip
And I have terrible luck with pulling my top cap off in the nibbler. Thinking of just leaving it stuck in the end and screwing the her into it from there.
) on the O-rings helps when installing.Wait... Which Nibbler and which cart? Mine is a Nibbler xL and Herc.
Andy
Well-Known Member
I was having the three flash issue as well. Called G and he had me send him my Persei top. Got a call back from W9 a couple days ago and they said there was not any issues they could find. They gave me an option of either sending them the rest of my Persei for testing or they could send me back my top. I am sending them the rest of my Persei.I, too had the three flash-no fire tango a few times...Has not acted up in a week or two..Seems Ok now..
Peace
They said 90 percent of these problems are from user error. If anyone knows what I'm doing wrong to cause this, I'm all ears.
I really miss my Persei. I guess I need a spare.
Big Baby Jesus
The momentum is finally on our side. Carpe diem!
I think it's the short circuit prevention circuitry. When I bump mine on a table it does that sometimes. It's because the circuit gets broken temporarily when the batteries bounce down on the spring. It does it on the core a lot too, but that's because the replacement core I got has a short in the connection at the base. It's fixed by unscrewing the batteries and screwing back together.