Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

poonman

Well-Known Member
Ah, I will see if they would be willing to exchange it or refund it.

If not, I'd have to make sure I keep a hand on it while it's in 45 degree position huh?

If they don't refund your purchase , not all is lost .
I'm familiar with that type of bong , you ' Can ' tilt it back 45 degrees
to hit it in general , therefore rendering the Evo at a vertical position .

But ya , stu's advice is best , get a vertical downstem .
 
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Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
Just got my EVO from Massdrop today. Looks like they shipped out two different types of SideTrees. Mine's an Evolver.

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No leaking problems on mine. Hopefully you get a replacement soon, Mister G.

I heard back from VXH support that they will be sending my replacement Sidetree today. i requested the Evolver but they told me they don't stock an Evolver sidetree. So I'm confused about how you got this? :hmm:
 

Monsoon

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I heard back from VXH support that they will be sending my replacement Sidetree today. i requested the Evolver but they told me they don't stock an Evolver sidetree. So I'm confused about how you got this? :hmm:

I'm guessing they oversold the SideTrees and had some Evolvers lying around so they sent those instead of making people wait.
 

JCat

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Accessory Maker
I figured there might be a hotter version. Mine seemed to run hotter before I sent it back. I want mine to run hotter. I mean it has no problem milking it now, its just up higher than I recall it having to be. Edit,
Just did a test with a Sativa dominant hybrid strain @11 your words rang true with density. For all searching for clouds, I simply set mine to max for five or ten min and then my desired temp and CLOUDS. This is the same method i just used to reach Clouds @ 11 but I do admit I'm using a very potent strain.
I have a theory on this ... heater coil placement ... exactly how high up on the bamboo the heater is causes great variance in temperatures at the top of the bamboo and ELB ...
 

stonemonkey55

Chief Vapor Officer
Manufacturer
I heard back from VXH support that they will be sending my replacement Sidetree today. i requested the Evolver but they told me they don't stock an Evolver sidetree. So I'm confused about how you got this? :hmm:
Once again, I'm so lost WOW!!!:hmm::shrug:
I'm guessing they oversold the SideTrees and had some Evolvers lying around so they sent those instead of making people wait.

We have some new employees and they must've not known the difference between the two. We had some older stock of Evolver HydraTrees still and they must've packaged it by accident. If you want to exchange it for a Swagger HydraTree, we are more than happy to do so, just contact support@vapexhale.com
 

Mister G

Deceptively Old Fart
We have some new employees and they must've not known the difference between the two. We had some older stock of Evolver HydraTrees still and they must've packaged it by accident. If you want to exchange it for a Swagger HydraTree, we are more than happy to do so, just contact support@vapexhale.com

Thank you Seibo for your call earlier today, I do really appreciate the personal attention that you give customers. Unfortunately, due to your new service person being misinformed, I have to be honest in saying that I've gone from very happy with the customer service to somewhat disappointed. I will refrain from posting the details of what has happened until I get a full resolution on my faulty HT, but I'll just say it has gone from "hassle free" to "inconvenient", which I'm sure you'll agree is not ideal even though it was not you or your representative's intention.

I am still looking forward to trying the unit with a proper HT, but the shine has come off a bit. I do look favorably on your company as a whole, I'm just being honest about my personal experience. I know that being a MassDrop purchase makes it more complicated for you too and have considered that, just bad luck all around I guess.
 
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stonemonkey55

Chief Vapor Officer
Manufacturer
Thank you Seibo for your call earlier today, I do really appreciate the personal attention that you give customers. Unfortunately, due to your new service person being misinformed, I have to be honest in saying that I've gone from very happy with the customer service to somewhat disappointed. I will refrain from posting the details of what has happened until I get a full resolution on my faulty HT, but I'll just say it has gone from "hassle free" to "inconvenient", which I'm sure you'll agree is not ideal even though it was not you or your representative's intention.

I am still looking forward to trying the unit with a proper HT, but the shine has come off a bit. I do look favorably on your company as a whole, I'm just being honest about my personal experience. I know that being a MassDrop purchase makes it more complicated for you too and have considered that, just bad luck all around I guess.

Due to it being our mistake, we just sent out your replacement :) Your tracking ID should be sent shortly.
 

Lorkhan

Well-Known Member
We have some new employees and they must've not known the difference between the two. We had some older stock of Evolver HydraTrees still and they must've packaged it by accident. If you want to exchange it for a Swagger HydraTree, we are more than happy to do so, just contact support@vapexhale.com

I'm more than happy with the Evolver HT, but thanks for giving me the option to exchange it!
 
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sektr

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Hey guys!

Planning to order an EVO soon after spending ages convinced vapes couldnt get me where I wanted to be and being proven wrong the first time I tried a decent desktop, and just had a question for you guys.

Ive got some really nice glass from my combustion days, so im planning to get just the base EVO with mouthpiece and use it with my existing glass to save money over a hydratube.

However, a lot of my pieces are tall stemless pieces with the joint in close to the chamber. From the looks of the size of the EVO, I think im going to need a 45 degree adapter as I doubt it will sit in the stemless pieces vertically.

So my question is, are there any known issues using the EVO at a 45 degree angle vs just having it sit vertically?
 
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z9

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Hey guys!

Planning to order an EVO soon after spending ages convinced vapes couldnt get me where I wanted to be and being proven wrong the first time I tried a decent desktop, and just had a question for you guys.

Ive got some really nice glass from my combustion days, so im planning to get just the base EVO with mouthpiece and use it with my existing glass to save money over a hydratube.

However, a lot of my pieces are tall stemless pieces with the joint in close to the chamber. From the looks of the size of the EVO, I think im going to need a 45 degree adapter as I doubt it will sit in the stemless pieces vertically.

So my question is, are there any known issues using the EVO at a 45 degree angle vs just having it sit vertically?

That's a good observation, the cloud is too large for the majority of stemless pieces I've seen. A 45 degree adapter will work great and will get the unit out of your face on a shorter stemless tube. There's nothing wrong with using the EVO at this angle but if your pieces allow for the extra height without putting the cloud in your face you should look into the Cloud Buddy as @Frederick McGuire said.

If you plan on using the EVO for concentrates just be aware that you can't use the nail attachment with the EVO inverted so you'll need a whip adapter to use it with your glass. VapeXhale is now offering one, but it can be had elsewhere. Only reason I'm mentioning it is because it will negate the need for the adapter. Taste will be compromised if you use the same whip for flower and concentrates and the setup might be a little more cumbersome but it'll allow you for a little more flexibility in your use.
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oldiebutgoodie

Apostle, Church of Vaporization
So my question is, are there any known issues using the EVO at a 45 degree angle vs just having it sit vertically?

@Pappy posted some YouTube video with the first - and much heavier - Cloud using glass that has a 45 joint and also using a 45 adapter on a tight vertical joint. just search for ClubMJW. When he made those vids, the CloudBuddy was not yet available. I have a couple tight pieces, and the CB works perfectly for those; a 45 adapter also works but the CB is much better.
 

Hexi

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Even the original Cloud had trouble browning the load at lower temps. I think the EVo is going even further. After a milky hit on max the ELB contents are still light/green but you can taste the 100% high-temp toasty vapor.

I think this is another consequence of EVO's heat precision - its very narrow spectrum of spatial and temporal heat range. The upper end of the spectrum is what makes the middle of the load go brown.

The are no upper ends (no place in the bowl at no time) that make your load go brower than it should on your set temp (as in every other vape, even sligthly the OG Cloud).
There are no bottom ends giving you better flavor than it should on your set temp (that's why the EVO can change the taste drastically after turning up the temp slightly).
The EVO just gives you a continuous stream of air heated almost exactly the same in its whole volume for the whole time.

In othes vapes, where the spectrum is wider, the part of the bowl that gets hit with the upper end get browned and the sides remain green and mix in some good taste.
In the EVO, the is no borwing from the upper end and also no green left on the sides from the lower end. When you continue to hit it, you will notice the whole bowl goes brown at once at some point with no green left.

If you want browning, you need to hit it few more times even if it doesn't output any more vapor.
The EVO just extracts so well that it's possible for herbs to not brown YET when they are nearing 100% extraction.

When I used Volcano, I noticed it also starts browning only at high temps when I keep blowing more bags, even if there is not any more vapor it can pump out.
That's the same thing - the volcano can be very precise because of its massive heat exchanger and steady airflow. The EVO achieves this with direct draw and to even more extent.

vvvvvvv Yes, that was the point.

Good points, but brown or no brown, either way you should be able to milk up a tube w/ high quality flowers.

However I have had instances where certain batches do not milk up well for various reasons.

With concentrates and a VXN, milk all day.
 

kimura

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I have definitely noticed subtle differences between the way different strains milk, and some noticeable differences in ABV color from strain to strain. I'm getting strong effects regardless. We know that active cannabinoids can be present in "invisible vapor," so I don't really worry much about it. I chalk it up to differences in strain, batch, etc.

I think there may be too much focus on ABV color in some cases. I have thrown the darker ABV from other vapes into the EVO and blown large, medicating clouds. I have also thrown the lighter ABV from the EVO into other vapes and got nothing more out of it. literally nothing at all. I don't hear the Herbalizer crowd complaining about light ABV. maybe we were just getting hotter than we thought we were in the past. I don't know. Bottom line for me though, I don't judge ABV solely by it's color.
 
That's a good observation, the cloud is too large for the majority of stemless pieces I've seen. A 45 degree adapter will work great and will get the unit out of your face on a shorter stemless tube. There's nothing wrong with using the EVO at this angle but if your pieces allow for the extra height without putting the cloud in your face you should look into the Cloud Buddy as @Frederick McGuire said.

If you plan on using the EVO for concentrates just be aware that you can't use the nail attachment with the EVO inverted so you'll need a whip adapter to use it with your glass. VapeXhale is now offering one, but it can be had elsewhere. Only reason I'm mentioning it is because it will negate the need for the adapter. Taste will be compromised if you use the same whip for flower and concentrates and the setup might be a little more cumbersome but it'll allow you for a little more flexibility in your use.
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60 fucking dollars for that? Thats ridiculous, I dont see any reason to pay that much for a whip and some simple adapters.
 

Monsoon

Well-Known Member
60 fucking dollars for that? Thats ridiculous, I dont see any reason to pay that much for a whip and some simple adapters.
ALT sells similar sized glass adapters for $17-28 each so I wouldn't say it's ridiculous for what you're getting. But given the cost of the glass in the kit it would be nice if they could offer people the option to select just the adapter sizes they want so they don't pay for unneeded extras. People without pendant rigs probably won't use the 10mm one and if you have 18mm male joints on all your pieces you'd either need two kits or an extra adapter.
 
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sektr

Well-Known Member
You'd have to support the weight of the cloud, but I can't see any major issues doing so.

A Better option (IMO) would be to pick up a cloud buddy.

It'll space out the cloud nicely, and it provides a nice little carb action with the stopper on the 2nd joint.

Looks like my best option.

Only concern is since it's extended out from the joint on my tube wouldn't that put a fair bit of stress on it?
 

Vapinghole

Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
Cranked up my EVO to almost max to heat up, intending to turn it down to the 2:30 position prior to vaping.

Forgot to turn it down and ripped a big hit as I normally do. If you've seen my past vids, you know I can take a large hit.

Holy fuck!! I've never taken a hit that high on the dial. I've owned a Cloud/EVO for two years and haven't approached that high setting. Never needed to.

My goodness, what an awesome machine this is.

Night night.

Edit: I gazed at my phone for 5 minutes--blank-minded--before I could type anything. :freak:
 
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