Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

I'm lost again. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm just curious to what type of gratification or satisfaction does the Darker ABV give? I vape unitil vapor output is whispy, and dump it no matter the color. Different strains darken to different hues so I dont really pay that any mind. I can say I am plastered when I'm done and thats my ultimate goal. I sometimes take out the vaped herb and crush or grind it finer just to squeeze all I can out. My only concern is, when the screen is spent, I better be ripped like a shirt caught on a nail. As long as thats achieved it could come out as green, yellow, pink, red, orange, or purple as when I put it in!!!! :2c::bowdown:EVO4LIFE BABY!!!!:rockon:
Also I can't quite understand why but I kind of like the EVOLVER Sidetree better too.
 

Hioctane

Vaked
I'm lost again. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm just curious to what type of gratification or satisfaction does the Darker ABV give? I vape unitil vapor output is whispy, and dump it no matter the color. Different strains darken to different hues so I dont really pay that any mind. I can say I am plastered when I'm done and thats my ultimate goal. I sometimes take out the vaped herb and crush or grind it finer just to squeeze all I can out. My only concern is, when the screen is spent, I better be ripped like a shirt caught on a nail. As long as thats achieved it could come out as green, yellow, pink, red, orange, or purple as when I put it in!!!! :2c::bowdown:EVO4LIFE BABY!!!!:rockon:
Also I can't quite understand why but I kind of like the EVOLVER Sidetree better too.
For sure a taste thing with me...never fails when I check an ELB. I as well like that Evolver piece better.
 
Hioctane,

Lorkhan

Well-Known Member
Welcome @Lorkhan! That's crazy the difference in those two HTs. I ordered from mass drop as well but chose the side circ. I've still not even received my tracking. I have a cloud+ but decided it was time to upgrade. Glad I've got the cloud to help pass the wait time. Hope you like the EVO! Sorry to hear the bad glass news @Mister G

Definitely happy with the glass I got! From what I've seen on Massdrop it looks like no one who ordered the SideCirc has got a shipping notice yet. MD has been pretty vague and contradictory about it, but hopefully they all get shipped out soon.

So can anyone get dark brown abv with their EVO? I just tried it at the highest temp and was a little disappointed to find that I'm only capable of getting a light-to-medium brown bud. Is this normal?

Otherwise the Evo is amazing. The weight, feel, taste, and versatility are greatly improved. I'm getting extremely medicated and I don't necessarily need to reach those higher temperatures but I like knowing that I have the headroom. The quality of the swagger HT greatly exceeded my expectations. I'm loving the sidetree and will try it with my OG cloud later.

I've found that letting it heat up for at least 15 minutes and setting it to 3:00 yields pretty well-cooked abv for me. At 12:00 it's still pretty green, so I find 1:30-2:00 to be a good compromise. Not super dark, but there isn't much green left. YMMV.

I am definitely impressed with the performance of this thing as well. I get very medicated with a small amount of herb. With the ELB I get pretty good clouds, but this morning I tried using a VXN with some QWISO I made a while ago and I was blown away by the massive amount of vapor I got. The EVO is amazing!
 

z9

Well-Known Member
I'm digging the Swagger HT, I think it looks cleaner than the Evolver and the slits on the tree look to be a little closer together. Its a lot smaller than I had imagined, it really makes me wonder just how small the mini sidecirc is.
The only thing I like better about the Evolver is the angle of the mouthpiece, mine is at about a 45 degree angle whereas the Evolver sidetrees look to be around 60 degrees which seems to be a little more comfortable to hit - I do know it varies piece by piece, just observing.

I'm lost again. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I'm just curious to what type of gratification or satisfaction does the Darker ABV give? I vape unitil vapor output is whispy, and dump it no matter the color. Different strains darken to different hues so I dont really pay that any mind. I can say I am plastered when I'm done and thats my ultimate goal.

There's no extra gratification or satisfaction from higher temp vaping and very rarely is my goal "to get plastered" - when it is I save the herb and break out the concentrates or kief. Everybody wants something different out of there vape experience, vapes are so great because they allow for this versatility. I ask because I'm used to owning vapes that can and will combust well below the max temperature setting.

I NEED something to help me get to sleep at night, lower temp vape sessions don't typically help put me to sleep. I don't live in a medical state, I only have access to skunky hybrids that are typically too racy for me, especially around bed time. I've primarily used a log for most of my vaping career and I've used an OG cloud daily for the past few months and from my experience higher settings have always correlated with a darker abv and a stronger couch lock effect. The color of the abv has always been how I tell how far I've taken my bud. Differences in strains are irrelevant to me because I buy a half ounce at a time and use it for a few months, my bud is very consistent and I can easily tell how far I've taken a load compared to the last. I no longer save my vaped bud and if I do I store it in an ELB to be used later in the day, if I don't use it that day I trash it. I hate seeing light brown abv because I know that there's some high temp compounds left in the bud that would contribute to the couch lock effect and a better nights sleep for me. The EVO completely extracts bud at a given setting, but if I take that ELB out of the EVO put it in my OG Cloud at a higher temp setting I can roast it darker and pull some more clouds.

There are always going to be leftover compounds in vaped bud, I accept that, I'm just trying to get the most out of a load. I chase effects, not clouds or flavor although I do love them both as much as the next guy. The EVO is getting me very medicated and I'm not here to complain or derail this thread. I really just wanted to make sure that my new investment is operating properly, which it sounds like it is.

Thanks FC
 
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oldiebutgoodie

Apostle, Church of Vaporization
I get dark brown ABV nearly all the time. A friend of mine with whom I've shared my EVO many times never has ABV as brown as mine. We both vape at ~2ish. I think the reason is that when the vapor becomes wispy he stops; he likes those big hits. On the other hand when I get to that point I bump the dial to 3 which delivers a couple/few more very light hits. (Actually I can hit it again a couple times, but then I get a very dark-roasted looking, finely broken down, ABV which tastes that way too - that's going farther than I like.) Getting the extra high-temp CBD's makes a difference in the experience for me (varies with the herb, of course). I've begun holding aside my ELB after reaching that 2pm whispiness and then finishing it off at bedtime. Beats sleeping pills all to hell.

It took a while experimenting to get to this point. IME there are subtleties in the EVO that were not as pronounced in the OG. With my OG, it's more like turn up the heat and then hit the herb like with a sledge hammer. Differences with load, temp, setup, and technique can all affect the result, but it seems more so in the EVO than the OG. While it took a bit longer to get to know the EVO, I like those subtleties; for me the EVO experience is more refined and superior. :2c:

I also have had just a few occasions where my ABV was lighter or even had a few specks of green. But that was definitely due to something about those particular batches of herb.
 

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
Staff member
New Duds for My Buds In the State of WA

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No. It's not weird to dress up my EVOs. It's weird to talk to them in baby-talk.
 
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poonman

Well-Known Member
Definitely happy with the glass I got! From what I've seen on Massdrop it looks like no one who ordered the SideCirc has got a shipping notice yet. MD has been pretty vague and contradictory about it, but hopefully they all get shipped out soon.

I ordered the Side-circ and was told of the delay thru e-mail .
They've kept me informed from 07/14 , and was told again , it should be soon . Funny thing is , I ordered the circ b/c of the larger mouthpiece and
opening . Then I saw yours and it has the exact mp I wanted . :hmm:
I hope my circ doesn't come with the smaller mp . iirc the side-tree pic
they had was with the smaller mp , that looked like a phallic end .

or do I have it backwards ?
 
poonman,

Alvinhwang63

Well-Known Member
At what knob would you guys use if your using shatter, this is my first time getting concentrates as it's harder in my area so I don't want to waste any
 
Alvinhwang63,

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
Staff member
I ordered the Side-circ

I hope my circ doesn't come with the smaller mp .
I have the mini-sidecirc, and it has a bulbous mouthpiece. I like it. One benefit: the opening is small compared to other styles. There is no air restriction because of that, and there is less chance of collecting the slobber of your friends. I think once you see and try it, the resemblance to chubbies, however thin, will diminish.


At what knob would you guys use if your using shatter, this is my first time getting concentrates as it's harder in my area so I don't want to waste any
@Alvinhwang63
For a good tutorial on the VXN, may I suggest Enchantre's video:
 
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theCerberus

Well-Known Member
thats not how i use my vxn. id even dare to say that is incorrect use.
I load the dab so it rests on the bottom and it melts/boils like its in a pot.
I get no black shit in the middle either. its yellow/red/orange.
The only reasons for black buildup is the temp is too high, or the reclaim that condensed there came crashing down and burnt, in which case it is time to clean the nail.
What i do is:

1. Set evo to around 11-12 (lower than your setting for flower).
2. load dab from the bottom slit so it rests on the bottom of the nail. if it is too sticky, at least have it drip down from the sides BELOW the slit. if you put it above the slit it will melt down and out into the bamboo. that is what is wrong in the video.
3. place vxn in evo
4. you can see the dab melt and start to boil.
5. place the ht on top.
6. inhale slowly until vapor is thick
7. stop inhaling when vapor thins out.
8. remove ht from evo
9. set evo to max to clean the bottom of the nail.
10. you can see the bottom of the nail is black, it will slowly evaporate/burn off.
11. remove the nail, there should be golden yellow ring of reclaim that condensed on the nail.
if you have a black ring of ash, either the nail was set too hot, you left it in too long for burn off, or the maximum amount reclaim has been reached and it has come crashing down and now you must clean the nail
 
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TommydCat

Well-Known Member
I ordered my sidecirc directly from SM55 just a few days before that drop ended and got the version with the small opening in the mouthpiece.

That small hole makes it very hard to clean (and I like to clean continuously), but it really does help the draw for the vxnail. I don't like using it for flower as much (always my clear matrix) and I did choose the sidecirc as a compromise between the two - I may wind up to regret that a bit (though I'm not giving it up, lol!).

In retrospect, I think the sidetree would have been the best for concentrate and reserved for that purpose when the EVO already works well with other glass.

Summary: I need moar hydratubes
 

poonman

Well-Known Member
Ya I just looked at my MD purchase again , and it def. has the larger mp . Both mp sizes has it's pros and cons , but I still want the larger one .
Of course , if the delay is too long , I'd gladly have the smaller size one
right now fwiw . I want to get EVOed !
 

exit

Well-Known Member
how is it recommended to clean it? i will search the thread but unsure if i have the tools necessary to accomplish this

any chance anyone got pics of sealing the bamboo so you can safely pour in cleaner. im just a little hesitant to pour liquid all down there cause you know $450 and all.

Just to follow up on this I totally forgot how clear my Evo used to be. It had become so grimy I couldn't imagine how I thought it still looked clean. Was able to clean 90% of it with a normal length qtips. Didn't really need the extra long ones to get the nasty taste out.

I think I need to start vaping at lower temps because I'm getting bored of how quick bowls taste burnt but I also should maybe stop always vaping above 1 o clock.
 

Dr. Plutonious

Well-Known Member
I wish the Evolver, rounded top design would stick for the sidecar hydratube. I think the Evolver design is so much nicer. Seriously. I want one of Evolver's sidecars (regardless of perc) more than ANY other HT.
 
Dr. Plutonious,

Muggle_Crusty Butt

Well-Known Member
I wish the Evolver, rounded top design would stick for the sidecar hydratube. I think the Evolver design is so much nicer. Seriously. I want one of Evolver's sidecars (regardless of perc) more than ANY other HT.
You can reach out to evolver directly and commission a piece. He is evolverglass on IG or email at glasstafarian at yahoo.
 

Salazar

Member
Quick question: is there a bare minimum of flower I can use to fill the ELB, or will it still vape reasonably well even if it's, say, 1/10 or 2/10 full?
 
Salazar,

Seek

Apprentice Daydreamer
This summer is so hot some hobits just threw a cursed ring in my room.

And the EVO can get even hotter on the outside these days.
I've been running the EVO for hours and it can get hot almost to the bottom.
I can feel significant warmth even just above the power switch. The knob also feels quite hot now when I press it harder with my fingers.
The upper half is so hot my phosphorescent wristbands around it are strating to get a yellowish tint.
Only the very bottom below the switch stays somewhat cool.

Wow, the PCB must be pretty warm in there, but I'm sure it's still better than the old Cloud that got very hot even at the very bottom after 30 mins of power.
 
Seek,

530rasta

Well-Known Member
my evo had a funky taste, and the bowls kept falling apart after not much use, exposing some sort of bond between the mesh and regular ss on the bowl, curious how these two things are bonded together.

honestly the evo has been in the closet in its case for months

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530rasta,

oldiebutgoodie

Apostle, Church of Vaporization
Awesome. I smoke somewhat infrequently and weigh very little, so I still have a pretty low tolerance.

May I humbly suggest that you expunge "smoke" from your vaporizing vocabulary. With your EVO, you smoke no more! :D


my evo had a funky taste, and the bowls kept falling apart after not much use, exposing some sort of bond between the mesh and regular ss on the bowl, curious how these two things are bonded together.

honestly the evo has been in the closet in its case for months
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Sounds like you received defective ELB's. I recall some with fit issues following release of the EVO, but not reports of the weld coming apart. Did you contact VXL about it? I've had a dozen ELB's since the first OG's shipped, but never anything happen like yours.
 
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oldiebutgoodie,

Seek

Apprentice Daydreamer
530 rasta: You have either got bad ELBs or you need to treat them more gently so they don't fall apart.
And if a damaged ELB is used in the Cloud, more particles can possibly make it down into the bamboo, burn and impair the taste a bit.

oldiebutgoodie: AFAIK the EVO is capable of combusting. My EVO combusted two times so far.

There are also these tiny tiny clouds of smoke from particles that fall down.
But his is neglible and can be minimized further by lifting the HT at the end of the draw every time and moving the ELB in and out the bamboo slowly, and not shaking the EVO with an ELB in.
 
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Seek,

Deadhead101

I am the Vapor King--I can do anything
For VXN use my formula for success has been to set the EVO to about 12:30-1, load up my nail, turn off the EVO, place nail in EVO, wait about 5 seconds, take a rip, exhale, repeat till there's nothing left. I find this way allows me to extract all my BHO without it ever tasting too harsh. Let me tell you, the first hit I get with this method is Heavenly:drool:
 
Need some help guys... I'm trying to figure out how to use my Evo with this 18mm pipe (pics attached). Lady at the headshop gave me these adapters... No luck. What else do I need?

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