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HillaryClinton

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If these grasshoppers require such precision in the manufacturing process, how is the user maintenance going to be effected? I don't have a pocket laser.

Officer: "What are you doing there son"
Me: "Laserin my pen" *snickers*
 
EllenDegeneres,

darkrom

Great Scott!
Well IMO that makes no sense. Precision to make something doesn't mean the user needs precision to screw it back together.

And you KNOW I'm not defending grasshopper at all, but "high precision manufacturing" should have no bearing on the user screwing it together during a cleaning etc.

My thermovape cera is a precision designed instrument. I still screw it together with my shaky caveman hands.
 

luckypucky

Covered in Peepaws
Me and my friend which both backed this campaign will every so often bring it up.. Soo you think we will ever see it this year? Or did we get jibbed? Lol I keep telling her to be patient but she keeps thinking we won't see it till the year anniversary of the indigogo campaign :p
 
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OF

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Well it's obvious to me. Con artists just don't behave like these guys have. They take the money and run. Since sticking around and posting progress reports isn't getting them any extra money and wouldn't help a scam in any conceivable way, Occam's Razor says they're genuine. Whether they are competent is yet to be revealed.

I too am in the 'I sure hope this pans out' bunch, but also have some concerns that a lot of 'smart money' hasn't made this happen either.

I disagree, however, about the above 'take' on con jobs. Only the low rent ones 'take the money and run'. The experts always "cool out the mark". They don't want trouble following them. The very best cons are the ones the mark doesn't even know he's been taken on.......right?

As I said, I sincerely hope we're not watching an example. Risks must be taken in Capitalism or progress isn't made. Profit is the motive, of course, but risk the downside. I think the vape market is ready for more new players. Choice is good.

Standing by, fingers crossed, but still sitting on the Credit Card.

OF
 

invertedisdead

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They only raised a few hundred thousand. If they can pull this thing off they will make millions. It is totally worth it bring this to market. Besides, I'm so bored of the lame vape pens on the market. A few of the newer ones look more tempting but none as much as this, so I've been holding off. The Indica and the Firefly are the only things that look possible nice.
 

PDwasmy1st

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I don't think i will ever buy a plug in vape again,but never say never, they don't seem to work, i must have been through 10's of leads , with pd , ev-2, nano all go wrong regardless of the design , so its the same hassel as batteries but without the portable factor = plug ins loose to me.
You just need a bloomin good battery that will last a year (for a heavy user say) then buy another 1, is this how the Grasshopper will work i wonder? and how much will replcement batteries be?
 

lwien

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I don't think i will ever buy a plug in vape again,but never say never, they don't seem to work.....

Wow. I had a PD that was on 24/7 and worked for 5 years straight without any problems whatsoever. I've had my LSV for over 2 years and it too has been running flawlessly.

I think this is the very first post that I have ever read (and I've read 10's of thousands) that have indicated that portables are more reliable than plug in vapes.
 

Vicki

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Wow. I had a PD that was on 24/7 and worked for 5 years straight without any problems whatsoever. I've had my LSV for over 2 years and it too has been running flawlessly.

I think this is the very first post that I have ever read (and I've read 10's of thousands) that have indicated that portables are more reliable than plug in vapes.

I agree. My Herbalaire served me well for a long time! I now have an Herbalizer, and it's a great plug in unit.
 

PDwasmy1st

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Wow. I had a PD that was on 24/7 and worked for 5 years straight without any problems whatsoever. I've had my LSV for over 2 years and it too has been running flawlessly.

I think this is the very first post that I have ever read (and I've read 10's of thousands) that have indicated that portables are more reliable than plug in vapes.
Do you live in the usa? i dont therefore with the PD it was 100% a voltage issue with the ev-2 its a lead/connector issue (the lead isnt replacable), Epic-vape have replaced the unit everytime it goes though so i am more than happy with them.
 
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OF

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I don't think i will ever buy a plug in vape again,but never say never, they don't seem to work, i must have been through 10's of leads , with pd , ev-2, nano all go wrong regardless of the design , so its the same hassel as batteries but without the portable factor = plug ins loose to me.
Wow. I had a PD that was on 24/7 and worked for 5 years straight without any problems whatsoever. I've had my LSV for over 2 years and it too has been running flawlessly.

I think this is the very first post that I have ever read (and I've read 10's of thousands) that have indicated that portables are more reliable than plug in vapes.

I agree. My Herbalaire served me well for a long time! I now have an Herbalizer, and it's a great plug in unit.

No doubt about it, cords can fail. Cheap ones in high stress applications (like the PD where the cable flexes endlessly right at the unit) more so. Better cords, with built in strain relief (like the HA) are exactly the other way. The cord on an electric drill takes incredible abuse and soldiers on. A real 'it depends' deal I think. Not only on the application and implementation but also on the user and accidents.

I look at it a bit different, perhaps. The repair plug for the PD is under a dollar. Anyone with skills to cut and strip the wires and run a screwdriver without drawing blood can put it right in a few minutes. OTOH any battery powered vape is sure to need new batteries, and usually fairly soon if you like (and therefore use). Those (like it would seem this one?) where the owner cannot change the battery are at a disadvantage. Those that take common batteries (like 14500 or 18650) have this issue solved I think?

That is from a battery standpoint (Cera, Persei)>(Solo, VB)>(Pinnacle, Grasshopper).

I still remain very interested to find out if this vape simply does it's job on a tiny fraction of the power others take or has a battery that can supply so many times more energy for the size. Either I think is a huge breakthrough. I don't see it so much "a pax-killer for sure!" as something that seems to defy the accepted rules of physics. IMO if it does even half of what it's advertised to do, it'll be very exciting indeed.

Standing by, breath still baited........

OF
 

PDwasmy1st

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No doubt about it, cords can fail.

I look at it a bit different, perhaps. The repair plug for the PD is under a dollar. Anyone with skills to cut and strip the wires and run a screwdriver without drawing blood can put it right in a few minutes. OTOH any battery powered vape is sure to need new batteries, and usually fairly soon if you like (and therefore use). Those (like it would seem this one?) where the owner cannot change the battery are at a disadvantage. Those that take common batteries (like 14500 or 18650) have this issue solved I think?

That is from a battery standpoint (Cera, Persei)>(Solo, VB)>(Pinnacle, Grasshopper).

OF

Interesting, so i could just go and buy a lead and what break the soldering and what wire it in somehow myself ,maybe using a soldering iron? rather let them do it. if they cant how would i do a better job?
Over here ive used £15 adaptors they lasted longer , i have no skills in other plugs apart from the normal plug, can fix those plugs you get for your cable box when they fail? ive not even attempted to fix em is it the fuse?
 
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Interesting, so i could just go and buy a lead and what break the soldering and what wire it in somehow myself ,maybe using a soldering iron?

No. I specifically didn't say anything about soldering (an issue for many) but rather a screwdriver (and some means to cut the bad end off and strip the wires):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058RLD9C/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AEKEXTXL2B213

You can, of course, buy one piece 'all over town' for a dollar or two, it's a standard connector in the Closed Circuit TV industry. They use them by the handfulls. Or should that be hands full? Youse guys invented this funny language, we should have pinched a simpler one I think........

That 'mothers-in-law' thing still strikes terror in hearts over here you know.

Regards.

OF
 
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