FlowerMate Vapormax V/V5.0/V5.0S/V5 Pro

Mine stopped after the first week. The LED that is.

I don't think the inside is that safe but I will say its not dangerous, so I its actually not as bad as that intro implied. Its just not a clean or clear path and I don't enjoy or support inhaling adhesives, I haven't had access to many Chinese vapes but if they are noted to be of lower quality then I agree that the FM is clearly Chinese. While others end up combusting this one works as expected but clearly doesn't taste like they were thinking about taste. Nor is it designed that way.

While it's cheap it really IMO is a good option for the poor but also lazy, uneducated, or minimalist who want it easy I'd never suggest it to someone with vaping experience that wanted something cheap. But I would immediately suggest the Firewood, VaporGenie, Hammer, Lithe, MFLB, or TVape 1 over it. Definitely the FWood.

The FM is appalling in taste, can't compete with others in vapor production. I can milk with my T-Vape, Lithe, and MFLB. The FM is like skim milk and yes I feel the MFLB provides better vapor and thicker milk. If you can't get through a learning curve than choose the FM. But if you feel there's hope to understand then don't limit yourself with this vape. It's great for when the friends come round but it leaves me desiring more.

paytonpenn said:

Mine stopped after the first week. The LED that is.

I don't think the inside is that safe but I will say its not dangerous, so I its actually not as bad as that intro implied. Its just not a clean or clear path and I don't enjoy or support inhaling adhesives, I haven't had access to many Chinese vapes but if they are noted to be of lower quality then I agree that the FM is clearly Chinese. While others end up combusting this one works as expected but clearly doesn't taste like they were thinking about taste. Nor is it designed that way.

While it's cheap it really IMO is a good option for the poor but also lazy, uneducated, or minimalist who want it easy I'd never suggest it to someone with vaping experience that wanted something cheap. But I would immediately suggest the Firewood, VaporGenie, Hammer, Lithe, MFLB, or TVape 1 over it. Definitely the FWood.

The FM is appalling in taste, can't compete with others in vapor production. I can milk with my T-Vape, Lithe, and MFLB. The FM is like skim milk and yes I feel the MFLB provides better vapor and thicker milk. If you can't get through a learning curve than choose the FM. But if you feel there's hope to understand then don't limit yourself with this vape. It's great for when the friends come round but it leaves me desiring more.

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"poor, lazy, uneducated" - F you, buddy.

mod note: "F-you" is absolutely not allowed here.

Vape Dr. said:

Ok, I hear what your saying, but if you look harder, they are under $75 dollars shipped on Ebay and can be had for around $60 shipped on DHGate.

They carry a 1 year warranty, they are completely safe inside, it is extremely durable, super long battery life, simple to clean, and its at the perfect temp for a one temp setting for newbies IMO.

This is an entry level vape, not a SOLO, Indica, PAX, etc....

IMO it is a great little vape, and I think its unfair to criticize something you don't own or know much about. What other (decent) vapes can be had for less than $75?

I love my SOLOs. Yes, the SOLO performs way better, (as do tons of other vapes), but comparing the 2 are apples to oranges.
Would you compare a MFLB to a SOLO? They are roughly the same price.
But that's just my opinion.

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Send me a link for DHGate @ 50-60 bucks shipped.I wouldnt say I dont have experience with it.....I do and thats why I wouldnt choose this over the Solo. For 30 bucks more who in their right mind would choose this over the Solo. For 50 bucks( VAPORMAX) to your door,ALL DAY I WANT ONE, any thing over that it starts to get into BANG FOR THE BUCK, screw the titles of entry level, money dictates such levels and holds true that you get what you pay for.Warranty in USA for Smiss...WHERE,....By the time you ship that unit back you could have bought another if you say they can be had for 50-60 SHIPPED,so warranty is moot on this unit.

MFLB compared to Solo, I see MFLB for 60 bucks and 80 so here too I wouldnt choose it.I choose my vapes on reviews from guys like you and from there its going to be price driven.
theres a reason that the Solo is the leading seller for a what one would call ENTRY LEVEL.Nothing comes close.Now those in socialized E/U well theyre screwed, I think numbers over there are either GREAT or insanely expensive or at least the shipping to the country is. The unit can double as a home unit and easy adapts for water tool usage as well. Vapormax, not so easily or effective as whats available for Solo, here too not gaining points.

WIth SOLO in the states and being EBAY has authorized dealers (checked by Arizer to see if distributors were legit = GREEN LIGHT) I would think hard before purchasing Vapormax,I think as you say it comes down to preference , or some not aware of numbers on other units, or some willing to give up redbull can size for playing card size, I dont know but Im sure of this, Not for 100 bucks ,50-60 yepper, great DISPOSABLE,and I bet it will be safe to say after 1 yr of hardcore use ,there wont be many with out issues. If so 50 bucks isnt so bad as a loss,but nothing over that makes it a worth while vape to own IMO,but we both know what ever makes your boat float, but look out for hole in that boat from not purchasing quality YMMV

ROFL said:

"poor, lazy, uneducated" - F you, buddy.

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I included minimalist, and poor isn't in the same context as lazy or uneducated but dialogue is interpreted by your perspective. I understand those words seem offensive but not all may be applicable to you. I would buy more flowermates, and redesign them internally. I was impressed with their design and components but became very disappointed when I saw how they laid it out.

In no way do I post intending to offend or belittle. I am a minimalist I think the FM would be great for me if they revised it so I wouldn't have to get tape out of the airpath and fiddle with the internals myself. If replacing the mouthpiece cleaned the flavor I would definitely suggest it but the fix isn't safe and could void warranty.

But being lazy isn't a bad thing, nor is being uneducated, most situations we only know what others know and them the same. I mention lazy as its a lazy vape it's easy quick and simple. The MFLB is the same in my opinion but a lazier person may dislike trying to hone their technique. The uneducated mention was based off of the information that the buyer may not be aware of proper vaping techniques that prevent combustion or they may not be educated in their other options, this is a good vaporizer and fills many needs but if air path or flavor is your concern then it may get passed on quickly.

Those words don't even have to describe the user, I'd prefer them to be tags so you can recognize whom it's designed for. Don't assume I think you're lazy poor or uneducated, I will think you wanted a vaporizer that has been said to work and is stealthy before I start really categorizing you. I also am an owner of this vaporizer and would buy again.

Paytonpenn Basically if you read your post you sound like a arrogant douche, perhaps you didn't mean too but that's what it appears. People who have different preferences are not poor lazy etc no matter your dance with words now

I think its just a matter of wording. Never have I seen paytonpenn be offensive or act like a douche. Hes always been really nice with loads of info that helps others.

I believe he was just trying to say that this vape is idiot proof. Its so simple all you do is click it 5 times on and 5 times off and that is your only responsibility with this vape. Its cheap, has no temp control, and works well with noobs. I think his statements fit the bill perfectly but could have been worded different as not to offend.

I do think however that yall are taking it the wrong way and getting offended a little too easily, but thats just me.

Call them as I see them y'all that's just me lol.



mod note: You don't get to call 'em as you see 'em here, when it comes to addressing another member's behavior on the forum. You can report or ignore. Those are your choices.

Paytonpenn has proven himself not to be a douche. If youve been a member here for a while you would understand that. Your opinion has been voiced and proven wrong by taking a look at paytons history. You might "call them as you seem them" but youve made this assumption on one post. The only reason why Im stating this is because payton is awesome dude who really takes his time to learn vapes and documents quite a bit about them and shares his knowledge with everyone. He also never directly called out anyone? If his post offends you Im just really not sure what to tell you besides growing thicker skin and not assume his opinion is directly related to you.

Sounds like you have the thin skin. Appreciate you picking up the pom poms and cheerleading for your bud. I'm not offended but amused by the backtracking word dance My comments are brief and to the point. Take it easy yall

When writing the original post I expected some to perceive it that way. I could have definitely changed my words after posting them as I felt it could be perceived as offensive, I even snipped off some rambling about Chinese vapes. I thought that was going to be the source of negative thoughts in others minds.

I wasn't specifically referencing that the people whom want this vaporizer are poor, just mentioning that is a "poor man's vape" within price. It is a lazy vape for the lack of energy required to use properly and efficiently. It's a good vape for the uneducated; (not offensive from my perspective, you would only be referred to as uneducated because you have gotten to learning about a specific field, we can't all just know everything without looking it up ) like mentioned above its fool proof, five clicks its on hold the button for a few seconds and its heating. No fiddling, no need to teach someone about a specific draw method, grind, or temperature.

@rizzo I enjoyed your post, and I can understand how you see it like that. I feel I may come off that way in reality too. I personally think you just need more time to understand my personality. I enjoyed your most recent post, "My comments are brief and to the point."

I was going to write something similar but realized that these are paragraphS I'm writing.

No problem I'm ready to move on Let's both enjoy the remainder of the day. No harm no foul. Looks like ole rizzo got under your friends skin though lama man had a breakdown lol

ROFL said:

"poor, lazy, uneducated" - F you, buddy.

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Please refrain from personal attacks. If you feel offended by a post, use the Report feature and do not reply in the thread. Take it to PM if you feel it's necessary.

rizzo said:

No problem I'm ready to move on Let's both enjoy the remainder of the day. No harm no foul. Looks like ole rizzo got under your friends skin though lama man had a breakdown lol

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I agree with the no harm no foul part, but implying that a member has had a breakdown - even in jest - is against our forum rules.

Let's all play nice, folks. We're here to learn about vaporizers, not squabble about silly shit.

Modnote: 3 posts continuing this discussion have been removed. Let's get back on topic please.

Bit surprised at the dust storms this innocent little vape has been producing. Don't understand why this is, not just held against the highest standard of portable, the Solo, but shot down for not matching it, when other, more expensive portables are not.
This is a solid, pocket friendly, cloud producing portable, at a great price. Would I call it a poor man's vape because it's inexpensive? No. Would I describe it, or the user who chooses it, as lazy because of it's simplicity? No. Would I choose it over my Solo? No. Would I choose it over my Thermovape T1 and my Pax? In a second.

Here's something to consider, not exclusive to this vape. It's been 4 days and I may have transitioned my niece off smoking cigarettes(30+ years) to vaping tobacco with the Flowermate. Did the simplicity of the unit help? Yes. I gifted her one, but does the low price tag make this vape available to her lower income friends and possibly transition them off smoking as well? Yes.

I think some of us may have lost a little perspective.
This is a great unit on many levels.

Stu, stop deleting my post. Am i in soviet Russia? Because if im, im here for a last time.

Ive been packing the hell out of my loads and grinding fine with a screen on top and getting very nice results

Wow love online hate. Cant we all get along. And @rizzo do as Jeff spicoli. Chill out man. He aint a hater

Rekrab. I know dude. Lol. Like your avatar. But Jeff spicoli did have a volatile relationship with mr hand

ya man thats "the man" or the hand haha, fuck the man we do what we want.

keep on keeping on hope to see something new from smiss i didnt jump on the FM waiting for a possible V2 maybe multiple heat levels

I only use vaporizers in my apartment to keep the smell down. Unfortunately, when I have friends over, they really cant figure out my vaporgenie classic or MFLB clone. I wanted to get this just for friends that are used to basic smoking implements like joints or glass pipes. Can anyone who has it recommend it for that and will a single pack last between 2 or three people? Should I stay with a vapir one or make this my next purchase?

@pseudox Yes, this ^^ is exactly what I prefer to use the Flowermate for. I don't know anyone that will be done from a single pack but a single pack works well between three people.

When I go to gatherings I like to bring a few vapes; one to convert the heavy users whom say they need copious vapor, another to fiddle with personally, and one to ensure the user won't have an issue. The Flowermate has been one of the best for the users whom prefer just receiving an item not having a complex talk/walkthrough for usage. When it reaches your hand, simply inhale.

Don't criticize, vaporize!

Adobewan said:

Bit surprised at the dust storms this innocent little vape has been producing. Don't understand why this is, not just held against the highest standard of portable, the Solo, but shot down for not matching it, when other, more expensive portables are not.
This is a solid, pocket friendly, cloud producing portable, at a great price. Would I call it a poor man's vape because it's inexpensive? No. Would I describe it, or the user who chooses it, as lazy because of it's simplicity? No. Would I choose it over my Solo? No. Would I choose it over my Thermovape T1 and my Pax? In a second.

Here's something to consider, not exclusive to this vape. It's been 4 days and I may have transitioned my niece off smoking cigarettes(30+ years) to vaping tobacco with the Flowermate. Did the simplicity of the unit help? Yes. I gifted her one, but does the low price tag make this vape available to her lower income friends and possibly transition them off smoking as well? Yes.

I think some of us may have lost a little perspective.
This is a great unit on many levels.

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@Adobewan always the voice of reason.

ROFL said:

Stu, stop deleting my post. Am i in soviet Russia? Because if im, im here for a last time.

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First off, I did not delete your post. @vtac deleted several posts because they were off topic.

I think you need to take at our forum rules and familiarize yourself with them if you would like to hang around as a contributing member.

Here's one of the rules that we have (that you agreed to when you signed up):

Public discussions of staff decisions are not permitted on the site. If you have any concerns or queries relating to a staff decision please take it up in private with a staff member.

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Your post is in clear violation of this rule and has earned you a warning point.

Come on guys, lets have no hating on Stu. He is keeping the peace, that's his job.
Lets get back on topic, this is a vapormax thread!
Now where were we gentleman?
@Adobewan, that's awesome you got a 30 year smoker into vaping with the vapormax.
I think its the perfect vape to use. Nice and simple. Kudos to you my friend. Excellent story!

@paytonpenn I agree with you. I've had vape sessions with 2 or 3 friends with the vapormax (they're newbies) and we all got plenty medicated.
IMO its great for a session with "fumbly" friends and you don't have to worry about it.

I was lurking around this thread before I decided to get the Vapormax V, and I'm pretty glad that I did. Now I have a decent amount of experience with portable vapes, having owned the Pax and the Magic Flight.

The Vapormax V isn't a revolutionary experience in any way shape or form, but it is good at what it does: getting you nicely medicated without having to worry about the risk of combustion or extensive cleaning. The vapor quality is of about a medium density, which is fine for a 75$ portable. I don't like seeing alot of visible vapor anyway, as I feel that it is just wasted thc. It definitely gets you nicely medicated, and the vapor tastes ok, not amazing but the taste of my herb comes through. The battery life is also amazing, as I have done 6 sessions and the battery still doesn't need charged.

I would recommend the Vapormax V, if not for any other reason than it is only 75$ and it works well. It doesn't give you any frills like say an arizer solo, but it gets the job done cheaply and effectively. Overall - 8/10

ok, after numerous session, i'm very impressed about the flowermate.

with a full medium grinded load i have 2 full 10 min session with 20-25 looooooong slow hits (the better way to have nice clouds) and after that, the abv is ready for another 3 long hits on 6 and 5-7 hits at 7 with my solo, so 30 min of continuos vaping

the vapor taste is just fine, worst than solo but very similar to my inhalater xp, and the clouds are very impressive for a 100 euro vaporizer (or 75$ in usa).

between the 2 session, i screw the silicon mouthpiece, do a 10 sec stir and then i'm god to vape for another session.

also very easy to clean and load and the light is a nice touch.

the only problem is that the FM became a little too hot, a little bit hotter than my solo\inhxp, but i live in a hot city so i think it's normal.

i remove the ceramic filter because is useless and make the draw even harder, the metal screen is good enough for the purpose.

the heating time is about 40 second and 20-25 sec for the second session.

in conclusion, i'm very pleased with this little beast

sorry for my poor english, i'm italian