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Using ABV

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I've used plain ground up ABV to a flour consistency and made Brownies from scratch. You don't cook over 320 degrees. They turned out pretty good. The recipe I have calls for coffee as well as chocolate. I used a full cup flour like ABV.

8 in x 8 in pan. Use ABV flour in place of regular flour.
I found the recipe online bakingafoolofmyself they are cannabis recipe videos. Recipes made simple.

I use my ABV where there is still life left in it.
The recipe calls for decarbed cannabis, I used my ABV. IMO such a waste to decarb in the oven. I can decarb the herb with my Solo.:D

Tried the Brownies out and ate a 2x2 square and 90 min later felt a relaxed mood come about. Decided not to eat anymore. Did not get couched locked, so that was good. The medicated feeling lasted for about 6 hours. I didn't have to take a nap, but sort of felt a little on the tired side.

I put them in the freezer for later use. I will use them in the evening a couple of hours before bed.:zzz:
 
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hf

Active Member
I made peanut butter cookies that were pretty rad a couple weeks ago, super easy and hid the taste pretty well. Just mixed the finely ground weed with peanut butter and made standard peanut butter cookies. My other method of eating it is mixing it with peanut butter and heating it up a little bit and then putting it in some sort of fruit smoothie.
 

gcifiz

New Member
Hey guys, In the process of getting a new Vape and I have absolutely no experience cooking with herbs let alone ABV. I was wondering if anyone has used ABV and tried mixing it with their coffee? I'm sure some people may find this nasty but this always appealed to me as I'd love to get a good buzz going along with my morning energy fix before I head out the door on the weekends any advice on how to do this?
 
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lolkosha

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Hey guys, In the process of getting a new Vape and I have absolutely no experience cooking with herbs let alone ABV. I was wondering if anyone has used ABV and tried mixing it with their coffee? I'm sure some people may find this nasty but this always appealed to me as I'd love to get a good buzz going along with my morning energy fix before I head out the door on the weekends any advice on how to do this?

You'll want to mix the ABV into whole-fat milk or cream over the stove, just bring it to just under a boil and let simmer and stir for 10 or so minutes then mix into your coffee. If you prefer to drink your coffee straight and don't mind a reduced effect you can just mix the ABV straight into the coffee and drink since it's already been de-carbed by vaping. I hate milk but would still highly recommend the first method with around 1g-3g of ABV per serving
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
You still need to ingest some form of fat along with the ABV either before or after. Eat a tablespoon of peanut butter or a peanut butter sandwich. Better yet eat a big greasy hamburger.
 
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Watusay

Member
My favorite way to use ABV is to make oil with 190 proof ever clear. Then mix the ABV oil with coconut oil and put in capsules! These capsules will make you sleep like a baby.
 

gcifiz

New Member
You'll want to mix the ABV into whole-fat milk or cream over the stove, just bring it to just under a boil and let simmer and stir for 10 or so minutes then mix into your coffee. If you prefer to drink your coffee straight and don't mind a reduced effect you can just mix the ABV straight into the coffee and drink since it's already been de-carbed by vaping. I hate milk but would still highly recommend the first method with around 1g-3g of ABV per serving
I thought of this but figured I would need some type of fat to go with it since thc binds to fat but is this not the case with ABV? I rarely ever add anything to my coffee besides protein powder its 99% always straight black so I'm not worried about the taste personally I think the coffee overtakes the tree taste but if I absolutely have to add something do you think coconut milk would work without having to boil it or simmer it? Considering coconut milk is naturally high in good fats one can assume that would work but I am not trying to waste many resources finding out haha.
 
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gcifiz

New Member
You still need to ingest some form of fat along with the ABV either before or after. Eat a tablespoon of peanut butter or a peanut butter sandwich. Better yet eat a big greasy hamburger.
Thats what I originally thought as well I'm wondering if coconut milk would work without having to simmer it with the ABV?
 
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Nilsson

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@Mod: I don't get search results for "abv" as the thread starter, is there a workaround for such short search strings?
 
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shredder

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My favorite way to use ABV is to make oil with 190 proof ever clear. Then mix the ABV oil with coconut oil and put in capsules! These capsules will make you sleep like a baby.

Pretty much the same here. I mix abv oil with high cdb oil (homemade) and lecithin (an emulsifier) then mix with coconut oil , at 1 fluid oz coconut oil, 1/2tsp lecithin, and 2-3 grams of the 50/50 abv/cdb oil mix. This gets heated and mixed on a coffee warmer hot plate, stirred until mixed, then size00 gel caps get filled.

The abv makes the final product good for sleep, relaxation and pain.
 
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Nazz1

Well-Known Member
I see a lot of recipes involving cooking.
Isn't your ABV already cooked during vaping? So.....it can be used "as is" in most recipes that do not require cooking of the other ingredients?

Is 70% ISO okay to use for making oil?
 
Nazz1,

Bongologist

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@Nazz1 abv is "cooked" and can be consumed as is. When adding it to coconut oil or butter people are cooking it into the oil for absorption not to decarb.

70% ISO will just take longer to evaporate but it's fine, not the tastiest thing ever, but if you mix that into something else it will work.
 
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Hwy420

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I use ABV to make green dragon. It makes a pretty strong tincture, just slightly weaker compared to GD made from fresh bud. I decarb the ABV for about 10 minutes at 240F (for fresh bud I use hte same temperature but bake it for ~40 minutes).
 

Winegums

I make things from wood
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I use ABV to make green dragon. It makes a pretty strong tincture, just slightly weaker compared to GD made from fresh bud. I decarb the ABV for about 10 minutes at 240F (for fresh bud I use hte same temperature but bake it for ~40 minutes).
There should be no need to decarb ABV right? You've already done it with your vapourizer surely?
 

MinnBobber

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There should be no need to decarb ABV right? You've already done it with your vapourizer surely?
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Any "normal" kind of vaping would have already decarbed ABV, correct

If I was a "special user" that only lightly vaped my loads at 330 F max (for example) , then I'd consider decarbing.
There are a few folks that do that super low temp vaping but most vapers would have well decarbed ABV
 
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Hwy420

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There should be no need to decarb ABV right? You've already done it with your vapourizer surely?
Yeah, vaping is supposed to decarb weed, but I read somewhere that it may not happen all the time: some users may not vaporize their bud at the right temperature, especially if they are using low-tech devices like the MFLB where you don't really know at what the temperature your stuff is being vaped. I use the Mother Fucking Lowtech Bastard, so I can't be sure that decarboxylation has been done properly, that's why I give it another ~10 minutes hoping it won't hurt and all THC wont' evaporate. That's right, it doesn't hurt, my tincture turns out to be really nice; on the other hand, I'm not sure that it helps either. So I don't think it makes a lot of difference whether to decarb your vape poop or not—probably most people would think that you don't have to do it, but like I said it doesn't seem to hurt, and I have a feeling that 10-minute dacarbing of my ABV makes my GD slightly stronger, but I'm not 100% sure. Shit, I've written about ten lines and I haven't really said anything! there are much shorter ways of saying "I don't know" :lol:
 
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The Stranger

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I use ABV to make green dragon. It makes a pretty strong tincture, just slightly weaker compared to GD made from fresh bud. I decarb the ABV for about 10 minutes at 240F (for fresh bud I use hte same temperature but bake it for ~40 minutes).
I want to start doing this with my abv and reclaim. How much alcohol are you using to how much abv, approximately? And then are you just letting the abv sit in there for a few weeks before straining?

What kind of effect is yor tincture giving you? Are you just crashing and going to sleep?

:science:
 
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Hwy420

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How much alcohol are you using to how much abv, approximately?

~1 volume part of ABV for ~2 volume parts of alcohol. I use the strongest alco sold where I live, it is 76%.

And then are you just letting the abv sit in there for a few weeks before straining?
Nope. I put it in a water bath, bring it to a near boiling temp (alcohol boils at approx. 70 or 75°C) and simmer it for at least 30 minutes (I usually give it about a good hour). There are lots of GD recipes online but I kind of improved (?) it by covering the cup with alcohol and ABV mixture with a lid/dish so less ethanol evaporates.

The tincture is usually dark brown if you make it from ABV, it's usually dark green to light brown if you use fresh bud (you must decarb it first of course if it's fresh herb). You can use it immediately, don't waste the next few weeks of your life! :lol:

What kind of effect is yor tincture giving you? Are you just crashing and going to sleep?:science:

Yeea, I think it's a little "heavier" compared to smoking or vaping, so I usually feel sleepier at the end of the session, that's the down side. THe upside is that it lasts much longer: you start feeling the effects in about 40 minutes, it peaks in 1.5–2 hours, and lasts for about 4 hours. You can top it up any time with another dose of GD or by simply taking a few hits off your vaporizer. But BE CAREFUL!!! it's very easy to overdose on GD. Perhaps "overdose" is not the right term—you won't die, no one has ever died as a result of cannabis overdose, but you'll feel like shit for the next few hours if you do "overdose". So be careful and DON'T take an extra dose and don't toke any more for at least 1.5 hours after taking the first dose of your GD (I would recommend at least 2 hours).

And, most importatnly, you should take GD/edibles on an empty stomach.
 
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The Stranger

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Great, thanks for all the info and tips! I'm going to get some Everclear and try it this week.

What's a serving for you? A few drops - a dropper full, depending on tolerance?
 
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Hwy420

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It's not quite right to measure your servings in milliliters or drops: it doesn't make any sense to measure the amount of alcohol you are consuming, it's more correct to calculate the amount of herb you use per serving.

When I make GD from fresh weed I usually take 3 grams to make one batch of GD and mix it with ~50 ml of 76% alcohol. Part of the alcohol evaporates, let's say you have 30 ml after simmering and squeezing the pulp (I use a garlic press). Now you need to count the right doze. You must learn how much gets you high; it will depend on your tolerance, the quality of herb, and how well you made your GD. If you use 0.1 g equivalent of herb per serving then your 30 grams of tincture, which contain 3 g of weed, make 15 servings (3/0.1=30), so you take 1 ml of tincture per serving. If I used twice as much alcohol and my final output were 60 ml instead of 30, I would have used twice the amount of tincture, i.e. 2 ml instead of 1, which would contain exactly the same amount of THC (although alcohol enhances the effects of cannabis its amount here is negligible, below the smallest amount that can cause a psychoactive effect, so increase of alcohol amount will not make your tincture more potent).

Important: if not sure how much you need err on the conservative side, e.g. if you are trying this batch for the first time and not sure whether you should take 1 ml, 1.5 ml or 2 ml, take 1 ml; if you wanna top it up go ahead but not until 2 hours have passed. If you take too much you will most likely have one of those anxiety attacks which may last longer than panic attacks after smoking/vaping (keep in mind how long you stay high after vaping and after ingesting!).

When I make GD from ABV I usually count the amount of weed in loads, not in grams: I put ABV in a special container with a sticker on it, which I mark every time I dump a new portion of vaped herb into it. I know from experience that it takes me about 3 trench loads of ABV from my vaporizer (MFLB) for one doze of GD. So if I use 15 loads of ABV, mix it with alcohol and get 30 ml of tincture my serving is ~6 ml (30/15*3=6). If the volume of tincture you get is different change your doze accordingly keeping in mind how many trench loads of ABV it contains.
 

The Stranger

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It's not quite right to measure your servings in milliliters or drops: it doesn't make any sense to measure the amount of alcohol you are consuming, it's more correct to calculate the amount of herb you use per serving.

When I make GD from fresh weed I usually take 3 grams to make one batch of GD and mix it with ~50 ml of 76% alcohol. Part of the alcohol evaporates, let's say you have 30 ml after simmering and squeezing the pulp (I use a garlic press). Now you need to count the right doze. You must learn how much gets you high; it will depend on your tolerance, the quality of herb, and how well you made your GD. If you use 0.1 g equivalent of herb per serving then your 30 grams of tincture, which contain 3 g of weed, make 15 servings (3/0.1=30), so you take 1 ml of tincture per serving. If I used twice as much alcohol and my final output were 60 ml instead of 30, I would have used twice the amount of tincture, i.e. 2 ml instead of 1, which would contain exactly the same amount of THC (although alcohol enhances the effects of cannabis its amount here is negligible, below the smallest amount that can cause a psychoactive effect, so increase of alcohol amount will not make your tincture more potent).

Important: if not sure how much you need err on the conservative side, e.g. if you are trying this batch for the first time and not sure whether you should take 1 ml, 1.5 ml or 2 ml, take 1 ml; if you wanna top it up go ahead but not until 2 hours have passed. If you take too much you will most likely have one of those anxiety attacks which may last longer than panic attacks after smoking/vaping (keep in mind how long you stay high after vaping and after ingesting!).

When I make GD from ABV I usually count the amount of weed in loads, not in grams: I put ABV in a special container with a sticker on it, which I mark every time I dump a new portion of vaped herb into it. I know from experience that it takes me about 3 trench loads of ABV from my vaporizer (MFLB) for one doze of GD. So if I use 15 loads of ABV, mix it with alcohol and get 30 ml of tincture my serving is ~6 ml (30/15*3=6). If the volume of tincture you get is different change your doze accordingly keeping in mind how many trench loads of ABV it contains.
Thanks for the great info!

I think I will still use grams when using abv because it's already mixed up in a big mason jar anyway. I'm thinking I will just double your 3grams per 30ml of fresh weed to 6grams in 30ml and see what happens, then go from there. :tup:
 
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Hwy420

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I think I will still use grams when using abv because it's already mixed up in a big mason jar anyway. I'm thinking I will just double your 3grams per 30ml of fresh weed to 6grams in 30ml and see what happens, then go from there. :tup:
Good luck!

Just keep in mind that by "3 grams" I meant 3 grams of fresh herb, not ABV! I have no clue how much ABV one gram of weed makes. 0.5 g? 0.3 g?
 

The Stranger

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Finally got around to making a tincture with all my abv.
25.4 grams with 8oz of Everclear, first strain. I think I'm only going to use 4oz for the second strain because 6oz of tincture after evaporating is still a lot of tincture :\, I think.
I have .6 of kief I was going to add but didn't yet. Maybe for the second strain, idk.

Dripping super slow through the coffee filter, I wish I had cheesecloth.
Ok I better go actually do something with the rest of my night now for once!
 
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