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THCV

Caligula

Maximus
Here is (what I think is an) interesting article on the THCV cannabinoid from Steep Hill Halent, a MMJ testing facility. Thought I would share, since I haven't seen much (read: any) talk about this specific cannabinoid group on the forums.

http://steephilllab.com/thcv-the-sports-car-of-cannabinoids/


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The cannabis plant makes most cannabinoids, like THC, CBD, and CBC, out of CBG-A. CBGV-A appears in the plant much more rarely, and forms similar cannabinoids, except they only have 3 carbon tails (c3), instead of the more common 5 carbon tail (c5). These 3 carbon tailed cannabinoids are referred to as ‘varins’, such that the c3 version of THC (THC-c5) is named Tetrahydrocannabivarin (THC-c3).

Being closely related to the c5 version, the c3 versions have very similar properties along with other unique qualities. For instance, THCV is more strongly psychoactive than THC, but only has about half the duration of THC. THCV is also a protagonist of THC, modifying the effects of THC. The energetic effect of THCV is more pronounced and stronger.

THCV has been found to reduce or even block panic attacks and, as a result, can be highly effective in the management of PTSD and other mental disorders involving anxiety or stress, as shown in research in places like Israel, where a great amount of cannabis research is done. THCV doesn’t appear to suppress emotions, only the ability to panic, associated with Fight or Flight response.

THCV has also been shown to reduce tremors associated with diseases such as Parkinson’s, along with ailments associated with motor control. There is also promising research demonstrating reduction of brain lesions associated with Parkinson’s.

THCV also stimulates bone cell growth, and has potential in the treatment of osteoporosis and similar ailments; possibly even in the micro gravity of space, to combat the loss of bone mass.

A side effect of THCV that requires attention is its strongly anorectic effect. If a patient is already having difficulty eating, THCVs appetite suppression can be a detriment.

Tetrahydrocannabivarinic Acid (THCV-A) is very similar to THC-A, and although it has yet to be properly studied, it is assumed to be anti-inflammatory.

Originally THCV was most commonly isolated in landrace sativas from the southern and central African continent. Until recently, THCV was only available in small concentrations in saliva strains like Durban Poison, which on average yield upwards of 0.5% THCV in a THC dominant plant. Such plants have a THC:THCV ratio of 20:1 or greater.

Several years ago, a strain named Pineapple Purps (archived test shown below) was created with a ratio of 3:1, and yielding 12% THC and 4% THCV. In the last year, a new strain, Doug’s Varin was created, with a ratio of 6:7 THC:THCV. This is the first strain we have evaluated that has more THCV than THC. All the high THCV plant strains we have observed are of the classic tall, lanky, narrow leaved sativaappearing variety.


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High THCV strains such as this Pineapple Purps are still quite rare.

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credit to: Dr. Kymron deCesare Chief Research Officer at Steep Hill Halent.
Chief Research Officer


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thisperson

Ruler of all things person
So gives you a stronger high that wards off panic attacks and lasts half the time as regular thc?

I want to say no just due to longevity but will withold judgement until I try a thcv heavy strain. Or even some form of concentrate.
 

Caligula

Maximus
So gives you a stronger high that wards off panic attacks and lasts half the time as regular thc?

I want to say no just due to longevity but will withold judgement until I try a thcv heavy strain. Or even some form of concentrate.

Theres something to be said about fast acting compounds though. Plus you wouldnt be able to find something with ONLY (or mainly even) THCV in it... at least not anytime soon.

On a side note, THCV has also been shown to an appetite suppressant.
 

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
What I find really cool is that this is something new.

Consider for a minute that the article says thcv strains are rare and even then with weak ratios to thc. So it's probably been a while (read: maybe never happened) that some person tried out a thcv heavy strain.

I'm anxious to try one of those new strains out the more I think about it.
 

cityslang

A taste on the tongue
Don't fancy a saliva strain lol

I've got 2 strains supposedly high in THCV at the moment.
THCV is also meant to increase the THC hit but also shorten it.

The 50% plus strain sounds great would love some of that to try.
 

syrupy

Authorized Buyer
TGA carries a strain called Jack the Ripper that was bred for relatively high THCV and THC . Full Spectrum Labs did the testing.

Jack the Ripper

Calculated Active Cannabinoids

CBD:

0.38%

CBN:

0.42%

THC:

20.22%

CBC:

0%

THCV:

5.05%

Total Active Cannabinoids: 26.06%
 

rabblerouser

Combustion Fucker
this is interesting, i had been interested in THCV a year or 2 back. But everything i found said that it probably didn't do much, or was not a bonus to the high, basically. We're assuming this is legit? cuz i had heard random rumblings about THCV and then found a bunch of it discounted when i looked further into it.
Sorry, i don't have references, i was looking into this a while ago.

Am excited to hear about it regardless of being a little skeptical.
 
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cityslang

A taste on the tongue
I have some jack the ripper very trippy.

Thcv I'm not sure of its vape point as charts either say 220C or <220C so not sure I know smoking gives me euphoria easier than vaping.

Big pharma will make billions from isolating THCV to suppress appetite obese people can get all trippy and Euphoric better than eating fatty foods

E2a butterfingers got the less than sign backwards now corrected
 
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thisperson

Ruler of all things person
Instead of thinking that it's inevitable that weed eventually be farmed out to big pharma, you should instead consider how viable an option this is for you and whether you can learn to isolate it yourself.

Build your own equipment if you can, or save and buy a lab, or you can take out a loan. But if you consider it the next big money maker jump on it and try to sell it?

In my opinion, the most amazing thing about weed in the future won't be that it has all these amazing medicinal properties, it will be that it's not patentable.
 
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cityslang

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Instead of thinking that it's inevitable that weed eventually be farmed out to big pharma, you should instead consider how viable an option this is for you and whether you can learn to isolate it yourself.

Build your own equipment if you can, or save and buy a lab, or you can take out a loan. But if you consider it the next big money maker jump on it and try to sell it?

In my opinion, the most amazing thing about weed in the future won't be that it has all these amazing medicinal properties, it will be that it's not patentable.

It's really illegal here and cultivation tends to equal jail time. You need a government licence and one has already been granted to GW pharmaceuticals biggest indoor farm in Europe iirc. They are producing an anti epilepsy drug the USA is trying to fast track.
 

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
News story: How the world's governments systematically cut off the common man from weed profits.

Happening the world all over near you. :(

So that makes Canada and Europe? Who else is doing that?

Edit: Are you sure Europe? Like all of it or just a nation?
 
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cityslang

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News story: How the world's governments systematically cut off the common man from weed profits.

Happening the world all over near you. :(

So that makes Canada and Europe? Who else is doing that?

Edit: Are you sure Europe? Like all of it or just a nation?


Give it time once 'normalised' in the USA they will attempt to exert control over the market.

Monsanto are already producing terminator gened cannabis.

http://community.kpfz.org/node/17

The climate might help in parts of America they can't yet control the Sun
 
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Been Vapin

Fringe Class
In the early 70s and 80s Hasish with origins in Afghanistan, Ghana, South Africa had the highest level of THCV tested. African Cannabis contains significant percentages of THCV.

THCV is apparently less psychoactive, but may be faster acting than THC.

According to Hollister (1974), in some cannabis vairites tested [THCV] may represent 20 to 30 % [or more] of the cannaboids present.

Wonder what Boi Verde would test at? Came not too far from Ghana.

Where are the African landraces at?
 

grokit

well-worn member
this will help some by using uvb light (reptile lights) one can increase thcv amounts.


I just ordered two 4' t5 tubes, they cost more $ than eight normal bulbs so not cheap!
We'll see if they work as well in my medical garden as they do for reptiles and suntanners :spliff:


Citation needed.
I read that too, will look.
edit: I couldn't find my bookmark, just search for "monsanto marijuana" there's news :worms:
 
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cityslang

A taste on the tongue
Where are the African landraces at?

Kilimanjaro
An early flowering, pure African Sativa from the Kenyan slopes of Kilimanjaro, this strain is the result of generations of crossbreeding by the native population though she’s since been stabilised to improve some of her properties, such as resin production, while leaving her main qualities and taste intact. The natives call her “the elephant flattener” and use her stimulating and trippy effects in their religious ceremonies and for hunting. One of the best strains for growing outdoors or in greenhouses, she produces solid buds even under adverse conditions, has a pleasant citrussy taste and is very strong. Very branchy structure and a vigorous grower, she may grow taller than 2.5m high, resulting in very good resin yields.



    • Genetics: Kenya
    • Genotype: 100% Sativa, tall and branchy
    • Flowering time: 60-70 days
    • Harvest Time (outdoors): November
    • Yield: 350g indoor / 400-600g outdoor
    • Taste: Fruity citrus
    • Aroma: Lemon
    • Effect: Stimulating, potent
    • THC: 15-20%
http://www.shop.mandalaseeds.com/contents/en-uk/d45.html

Wild Thailand

A pure strain from the Ko Chang archipelago in Thailand, her THC levels are among the highest in the world. She’s highly prized by Thai growers who smuggle her into Bangkok despite the severity of the country’s penal system. This strain’s value derives from it being the result of continual interbreeding using the best examples of this Thai Ko Chang lineage undertaken over many years by the area’s expert growers; local inhabitants who have been cultivating it for generations. She’s one of Thailand’s most productive strains and has a relatively short flowering cycle for a pure Thai Sativa. Very vigorous, sometimes uncontrollable growth. If grown in a pot, leave plenty of room for the root zone to develop for optimum yields. Like the authentic Thai she is, her taste and smell will bring Asia to your palate while her effect will spirit you away to the indescribable temples of Bangkok.

  • Genetics: Ko Chang (Thailand)
  • Type: 100% sativa
  • Flowering time: 75-90 days
  • Harvest Time (outdoors): end November
  • Yield: 300g indoor / 450-500g outdoor
  • Odour: Strong
  • Taste: Fruity cirus
  • Effect: Euphoric
  • THC: 22.3%
 

rabblerouser

Combustion Fucker
I got excited because i found another article, but i was the same lab involved (older article too). But I'm a little concerned, they also mention hazes as having high thcv which are usually guaranteed paranoia for me, so maybe it's the thcv that actually doesn't agree with me? or is it something else about the hazes that sets me off.
 
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cityslang

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@rabblerouser

Imo it's the hybrid hazes that finish in 8 to 10 weeks that can cause paranoia especially if the crystals are clear because it's cropped too early. @ataxian has done some 20 week hazes and his experience is no/low paranoia. Really interesting.

I don't think THCV is the paranoia cause more of thc and little else in the mix.

I think most strains can if nudged produce THCV but the 2 I linked above look like the right sort one from the equatorial region and one slightly northern both of these regions are supposed to be the THCV rich regions.

For some reason true euphoric waves only come when I combust not got my head round that yet.
 

cityslang

A taste on the tongue
Citation needed.
http://www.healthy-holistic-living....ically-modified-marijuana-brand-uruguay.html#

So are they or not?

Whichever companies do it it will be the same.
Big business is well versed in controlling supply and demand if left to them a lower quality genetically engineered weed ain't my idea of how to control such a wonderful plant. Insert some silly gene and all that crap no thanks.

The whole point is small growers and retailers all locally based the best survive and diverts huge revenue into local economies. Multi nationals do such things as pay minimal tax by having 2 men and a phone as the head office on some tax haven.

E2a
The original link has had a response since I read it from Monsanto here's a different stance
http://www.examiner.com/article/is-monsanto-working-to-create-gmo-marijuana
 
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thisperson

Ruler of all things person
From the article:

They point out that Monsanto's strain would deliver twice the tar as marijuana currently available from experienced growers with a much lower THC content.

What the fuck are they doing?

Back in 1998, New Scientist reported that the U.S. was also developing a genetically engineered fungus designed to kill plants that could be used to manufacture illegal drugs:

The U.S. Congress recently appropriated $23 million dollars to fund a "new solution" for the war on drugs. The new solution attacks drugs at their source — the drug plants. Researchers say they can eliminate drug plants with fungal pathogens. The fungi would be genetically engineered to kill only coca plants (Erythroxylon sp.), opium poppies (Papaver sp.), and marijuana (Cannabis sp.).

And this one scared me a bit. How far do you think a fungus that kills plants can go with 23 million?

At this point, everybody from medical researchers to drug cartels is working on altering the genetic makeup of cannabis for multiple purposes. It remains to be seen how marijuana cultivars will change in the upcoming years and how this will impact science, medicine, agriculture, the illegal drug trade and more.

I think this article convinced me of the importance of the seed bank. I'm not saying they will fuck it all up, but I would rather not have genetically modified plants.

Got to start growing and storing.

Edit: Oh god, non-GMO growers don't favor seed production because the female plant produces more trichromes or something like that. D:
 
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