Acaseofchaos
Well-Known Member
I believe it can be cleaned pretty easily, there are posts all throughout this thread that will explain how.
The Magic-Flight Box
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SmokeTheState
Smokey The State Bear
I recently ordered my MFLB from vapeworld, ordered right after Christmas, and recieved right before the new years!
The stock batteries I recieved had a black cover on the male end, while the eneloops I just opened up have a silver all metal top on the male end of the battery. So pretty much I can conclude that my stock batteries are NOT eneloops. They do work fine from what I can tell so far.
Usually when I go out, I have to keep my symptoms in check with constant edibles, smoking, tinctures, etc. Pretty much my entire life is relegated to keeping my symptoms in check, and this can really put a buzzkill on alot of things, cause I have to plan around it.
WELL NO MORE.
FREEDOM IS HERE.
I spent the entire day with my friends, all around town. Usually after eating, I am dying for something to help my stomach, and it usually means driving home for a sesh. Instead I just walked into a corner outside, chilled for a bit, and came back. No smell (not much), no bullshit, hell my own other half wasn't even aware when I was or wasn't vaping.
After eating, my friends decided they wanted to go be consumers and shop. Usually what is a long agonizing experience of me waiting and trying not to vomit up the rich oily restaraunt meal we just ate; turned into a fun afternoon with friends.
Anyways, thanks for putting some semblance of normalcy back in my life. I can go back to being a normal joe for once in a very long time.
I can taste the butane when using my glass now, vaping is spoiling my tastebuds.
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This isn't totally foolproof. I burned my first couple trenches. After I got a good feel for it, I was rolling. I still miss a draw by going to fast, or burn it by going slow at times. I mostly blame using irregularly charged batteries. I got more in the mail now.
The delivery was nice. This isn't the punch in your face high of a bong, but provided more of a heady effect, than combustion would. Worked well for my nausea, just okay for my stomach cramps.
I am not sure if I would use this as a main vape for home at this point, but I could see me starting off the morning and the rest of my day out with this thing. So stealth it's not even funny. It looks like I am resting my face on my hand or yawning.
Edit: more stuff
The stock batteries I recieved had a black cover on the male end, while the eneloops I just opened up have a silver all metal top on the male end of the battery. So pretty much I can conclude that my stock batteries are NOT eneloops. They do work fine from what I can tell so far.
Usually when I go out, I have to keep my symptoms in check with constant edibles, smoking, tinctures, etc. Pretty much my entire life is relegated to keeping my symptoms in check, and this can really put a buzzkill on alot of things, cause I have to plan around it.
WELL NO MORE.
FREEDOM IS HERE.
I spent the entire day with my friends, all around town. Usually after eating, I am dying for something to help my stomach, and it usually means driving home for a sesh. Instead I just walked into a corner outside, chilled for a bit, and came back. No smell (not much), no bullshit, hell my own other half wasn't even aware when I was or wasn't vaping.
After eating, my friends decided they wanted to go be consumers and shop. Usually what is a long agonizing experience of me waiting and trying not to vomit up the rich oily restaraunt meal we just ate; turned into a fun afternoon with friends.
Anyways, thanks for putting some semblance of normalcy back in my life. I can go back to being a normal joe for once in a very long time.
I can taste the butane when using my glass now, vaping is spoiling my tastebuds.
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This isn't totally foolproof. I burned my first couple trenches. After I got a good feel for it, I was rolling. I still miss a draw by going to fast, or burn it by going slow at times. I mostly blame using irregularly charged batteries. I got more in the mail now.
The delivery was nice. This isn't the punch in your face high of a bong, but provided more of a heady effect, than combustion would. Worked well for my nausea, just okay for my stomach cramps.
I am not sure if I would use this as a main vape for home at this point, but I could see me starting off the morning and the rest of my day out with this thing. So stealth it's not even funny. It looks like I am resting my face on my hand or yawning.
Edit: more stuff
B.
War Criminal
Ump-Respectfully, I have to ask what reasons you have for assuming this would be safe. I know my LB has quite a bit of buildup underneath the screen, in places I'll never be able to clean, and I can smell the herb. Now, I don't know anything about airport security, but I would not like to find out if a drug dog will be able to smell my LB. I rarely fly, and out of the last ten times I flew, I had a tag on my bag saying they had searched my (totally legal) luggage once. But who knows how many times they looked and didn't leave a tag. On different trip I was randomly selelcted while waiting in line, taken to a room and watched as they went through everything in one of my bags, but didn't touch the other, which I always thought was weird. Maybe something looked odd on the xray. Until we actually legalize it(which WILL happen)I will never fly with my LB. Although it is a cool device, I don't think it's worth the risk. When i travel sometimes I make the simple but effective light bulb style vape, or I roll a joint. . Sucks, but it's the world we live in.umpnum14 said:
I hope I'm wrong. Does anyone that does a lot of flying care to comment? I fly about once a year, so I'm not very knowledgeable in this area.
Mellizard-us know how your travels go. Check out youtube for some super easy ways to make a semi decent light bulb vape. Not the best, but at least it's something, and you can get more creative than a light bulb. Any glass can be heated up to create a crude conduction vape. Use a ball jar, an empty jelly jar, a salt shaker, whatever. All with the knowledge that your far superior LB is waiting for you at home.
On another topic, I picked up some Rayovac AA's at walmart yesterday. They were in the checkout line impulse item area, and they don't list the mah rating, but at $6 for a 4 pack seemed like a deal so I grabbed em. I did a discharge in my Lacrosse charger, and 2 of the batteries were 2100 mah, and 2 were 1600 mah, which I bet I can bring up with a few more discharge cycles. I just got 2 trenches out of the 1600's, with power to spare. I like these . They are the loosest ones I've used, but after having nothing but too tight before this, it's a welcome change. They are loose enough that I occasionaly had to adjust the battery to make it light up, which would have been a dealbreaker in my first LB without the light, but now that I have the instant feedback that the connection was lost it's no big deal. And I imagine it will be harder to accidentaly leave the battery in contact, charring my bud until I smell that nasty, you just funked up your box smell. It's the first time I've had the herb produce a smell I didn't like. I hope the next time I'm at walmart I can stumble upon some more of these guys.
These also look interesting :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002M3TLDK/ref=cm_cr_asin_lnk
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
B had a lot of VERY valid points IMO. But to clarify just a couple of small things. 
TSA employees are NOT LEOs.
The dogs you see at the airport are 98% there for reasons other than drugs (they werent trained for that)
Look for BartSimpsons threads in another forum regarding the Tighty Whitey Method and you will find lots of insight regarding this type of situation regarding travel.
Oh and one more thing, DONT (dont) use a jelly jar or any jar for that matter for safetys sake. Glass like that wasnt meant to withstand constant high temperatures and you could very well end up like me (or more unlucky) I tried the jelly jar method, only to hear a *POP* and the bottom part of the jar seperated very cleanly from the jar before it fell to the ground and shattered.
Honestly, if I was in that situation I would get something like a bag of Bugler or some other rolling tobacco and put my LB in with that. There would be no arguing that the unit was for consumption of plant material, but at first glance (or second) it looks more legit.
Good luck!
TSA employees are NOT LEOs.
The dogs you see at the airport are 98% there for reasons other than drugs (they werent trained for that)
Look for BartSimpsons threads in another forum regarding the Tighty Whitey Method and you will find lots of insight regarding this type of situation regarding travel.
Oh and one more thing, DONT (dont) use a jelly jar or any jar for that matter for safetys sake. Glass like that wasnt meant to withstand constant high temperatures and you could very well end up like me (or more unlucky) I tried the jelly jar method, only to hear a *POP* and the bottom part of the jar seperated very cleanly from the jar before it fell to the ground and shattered.
Honestly, if I was in that situation I would get something like a bag of Bugler or some other rolling tobacco and put my LB in with that. There would be no arguing that the unit was for consumption of plant material, but at first glance (or second) it looks more legit.
Good luck!
Vape World rocks....Nuff said!!! 
Anywho....I think I got a bunk MF-LB. After having it for a few weeks now,I can safely say Im not getting a very good hit at all. I did manage to get a few clouds out of it when I first got it,now I barely exhale anything visible. My friends LB that I bought him works fine,aswell as the one I sent to Chicago for my other friend.Both of those deliver monster clouds,...mine barely anything. Oddly enough,if I leave it for like 20 seconds,it WILL combust,but as far as getting a good hit....no way in hell. If I cant get this sorted fast,either by an adjustment on my end(Again,I follow the directions to the T) or a word from MF...it will be sold and sold for CHEAP.
I feel like I threw away $90+ on this thing,I'm totally unsatisfied and I just want it fucking GONE
Anywho....I think I got a bunk MF-LB. After having it for a few weeks now,I can safely say Im not getting a very good hit at all. I did manage to get a few clouds out of it when I first got it,now I barely exhale anything visible. My friends LB that I bought him works fine,aswell as the one I sent to Chicago for my other friend.Both of those deliver monster clouds,...mine barely anything. Oddly enough,if I leave it for like 20 seconds,it WILL combust,but as far as getting a good hit....no way in hell. If I cant get this sorted fast,either by an adjustment on my end(Again,I follow the directions to the T) or a word from MF...it will be sold and sold for CHEAP.
I feel like I threw away $90+ on this thing,I'm totally unsatisfied and I just want it fucking GONE
Beezleb
Well-Known Member
Melizzard,
Cleaning the the LB is a snap as others have stated. You simply use the brush and gently sweep out any debris. However, I only use mine when traveling so I cannot speak on heavy usage but I have never had a problem nor do I expect one.
When it comes to taking airline traveling risk do you really want to take that information from a forum? Seems to be to be as valid as a guarantee on a pee test cleaner. Yea it may be guaranteed for the 20 bucks or so you spent on the test but the repercussions can not be guaranteed, such as your job and whatever else is a consequence.
I just wouldnt do it. Some people do and never have problems and the fact we do not see on tv everyday people being arrested for having residue on things is a testament its not overly a big deal to a degree but their is always that chance or risk. The only real issue I see is if you have more than a residue.
People talk about no drug dogs and whatnot on domestic flights. Well typically not, but lets say something like you ticked off some significant other or whatnot of you or some other random passenger for which you have no control over is reported to the authorities or whatnot and then you are potentially screwed as they will typically search everybody. I have actually witnessed this happen on a bus more than a few times. In today's issue with terrorism and fluctuating security levels I feel it is not all that bright to take such risk but to each their own.
Just remember, the advice given here on these boards on this subject is with out accountability. Take and use at your own risk. For me, its not worth it. I would rather just smoke where I am going or buy a something to use their but to each their own.
If you are going to travel, keep in mind, clean it well, then clean it again and add tobacco like some others have said, not all brand new unopened never been touched tobacco, make it look used. I do not believe the U.S. govt cares about a small vaporizer but if they have to act on it, I am sure they will. So keeping it nondescript as possible is key I think. Another option may be to mail it to your destination.
Good luck and remember, at the end of the day, we are each responsible for our own actions and while sometimes we might hear or read what we want to hear but that does not make it safe. I have seen many a person regret an action they have taken. Make sure you can handle any regrets before taking such an act if you are so worried.
Happy Vaping!
Cleaning the the LB is a snap as others have stated. You simply use the brush and gently sweep out any debris. However, I only use mine when traveling so I cannot speak on heavy usage but I have never had a problem nor do I expect one.
When it comes to taking airline traveling risk do you really want to take that information from a forum? Seems to be to be as valid as a guarantee on a pee test cleaner. Yea it may be guaranteed for the 20 bucks or so you spent on the test but the repercussions can not be guaranteed, such as your job and whatever else is a consequence.
I just wouldnt do it. Some people do and never have problems and the fact we do not see on tv everyday people being arrested for having residue on things is a testament its not overly a big deal to a degree but their is always that chance or risk. The only real issue I see is if you have more than a residue.
People talk about no drug dogs and whatnot on domestic flights. Well typically not, but lets say something like you ticked off some significant other or whatnot of you or some other random passenger for which you have no control over is reported to the authorities or whatnot and then you are potentially screwed as they will typically search everybody. I have actually witnessed this happen on a bus more than a few times. In today's issue with terrorism and fluctuating security levels I feel it is not all that bright to take such risk but to each their own.
Just remember, the advice given here on these boards on this subject is with out accountability. Take and use at your own risk. For me, its not worth it. I would rather just smoke where I am going or buy a something to use their but to each their own.
If you are going to travel, keep in mind, clean it well, then clean it again and add tobacco like some others have said, not all brand new unopened never been touched tobacco, make it look used. I do not believe the U.S. govt cares about a small vaporizer but if they have to act on it, I am sure they will. So keeping it nondescript as possible is key I think. Another option may be to mail it to your destination.
Good luck and remember, at the end of the day, we are each responsible for our own actions and while sometimes we might hear or read what we want to hear but that does not make it safe. I have seen many a person regret an action they have taken. Make sure you can handle any regrets before taking such an act if you are so worried.
Happy Vaping!
Maybe not too bright, but I have stage IV breast cancer and can't eat without it. Kind of a bummer not to be able to eat more than a few bites a day ... and I've lost so much weight, I cannot afford to waste away any more. So it's not that I want to get high while I'm traveling. It's that I need it to survive.FEAR420 said:We just had 3 more incidents on flights and youre trying to bring illegal contraband on a flight with you??? Not too bright IMO....
It's not illegal contraband for me ... I live in a blessedly legal state ... it's a medication just like any of my prescription meds. I do understand that it's federally illegal, but my treatment is Rick Simpson's hemp oil and I vape for appetite before meals. Sometimes I have unexpected abdominal cramping and I need it for that as well. So, what other choice do I have????
If anyone is experienced with vape travel, I would really like to discuss this with them. I successfully carried my oil, in capsules in large supplement bottles underneath existing supplements (I take probably 20 bottles of supplements everywhere I go, in my carry-on) and that worked like a charm. Figured my medicine would work the same way: grind it up and put it in capsules (I use so very little I could do that easily).
Sorry if it appears that I'm a moron ... and perhaps I am ... but this isn't a party material for me.
xxoo
Melissa
Not saying youre a moron,please dont make it look like I am...I simply stated that after there has been 3 more terrorist incidents in the last 10days,its not too bright of an idea. The security details will be on heightened alert and search more ppl at random. The risk outweighs the rewards. And yes,you may be legal to possess on a State Level,but Airlines are Fed. Regulated,and you will be traveling interstate I'd presume,which makes it trafficking IIRC.So tell me,is it really worth it?? Order a LB now & have it shipped there...That'll work just fine for the trip.
Beezleb
Well-Known Member
Due to your medical condition I would simply pack it as normal. Clean it well and do not draw attention to it but just pack as you would a hair dryer, curling iron, alarm clock ect. In fact, I would pack it with that.
If you are questioned about it I would simply explain your medical condition, show your medical use card and be honest and up front with them. I think as long as your not going to an overly conservative state it would not be an issue as you would a identified medical user.
If they play hard with you I would stand your ground and explain how this will become a major issue and get lots of publicity but I do not believe for a legit medical user their would be an issue. I would not be carrying herbs though and if you do, have just enough to use for your trip and stored discreetly as possible. I also recommend having it in the packaging from the dispensary or wherever you purchased it if applicable. Their main concern would be that you would using a medical condition as cover to transport, but if it truly is personal medical use amount it will be difficult for them to take that route.
I hope that helps and I hope the best for you and safe travels.
Beezleb
If you are questioned about it I would simply explain your medical condition, show your medical use card and be honest and up front with them. I think as long as your not going to an overly conservative state it would not be an issue as you would a identified medical user.
If they play hard with you I would stand your ground and explain how this will become a major issue and get lots of publicity but I do not believe for a legit medical user their would be an issue. I would not be carrying herbs though and if you do, have just enough to use for your trip and stored discreetly as possible. I also recommend having it in the packaging from the dispensary or wherever you purchased it if applicable. Their main concern would be that you would using a medical condition as cover to transport, but if it truly is personal medical use amount it will be difficult for them to take that route.
I hope that helps and I hope the best for you and safe travels.
Beezleb
Hi Fear420,FEAR420 said:
Given that you have experience with working instances of the Box, we are more than willing to send you a replacement. You will need to contact us privately via email (on left or on website magic-flight.com) with your postal address and the serial number of the Box that seems to be having trouble.
-- Magic-flight
reece
Well-Known Member
Melizzard, I'm not sure what state you're in but I have heard, from a medical marijuana resource group, that mmj patients here in Oregon can pack up to an ounce of medicine for their flight. I'm sure the Box would be fine also. But when you get where you're going, or more likely on the way back home, there could be issues.
Full disclosure, I heard this years ago and have never, and don't know anyone, who has tried it. Best bet is to check with a medical marijuana group in your state.
The following link is for a group with clinics in several of the states which allow medical marijuana use. There was/is a community access television show called Cannabis Common Sense. That is where I heard the information on flying from Oregon. Check 'em out. Maybe you can contact them for more concrete answers. Good luck with everything.
http://thc-foundation.com/ccs/
Full disclosure, I heard this years ago and have never, and don't know anyone, who has tried it. Best bet is to check with a medical marijuana group in your state.
The following link is for a group with clinics in several of the states which allow medical marijuana use. There was/is a community access television show called Cannabis Common Sense. That is where I heard the information on flying from Oregon. Check 'em out. Maybe you can contact them for more concrete answers. Good luck with everything.
http://thc-foundation.com/ccs/
B.
War Criminal
good point, i guess i've been lucky cuz it hasn't happened to me yet, but i'll be on the lookoutAGBeer said:
Mellizard, you don't look like a moron. A moron would not have asked for feedback. Are edibles safer to fly with? I've never tried. Or maybe coconut oil capsules? ever tried to make those? very discrete.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
This discussion is probably deserving of its own thread. We are getting a bit off topic here.
reece
Well-Known Member
Coconut oil solidifies at room temperature. It would probably be easy to just scoop it into the capsules. But stickstones is right. B., would you mind starting a thread about the coconut oil capsules in one of the other forums if there is much more to it than what we've discussed?
Just got mine today - is that little copper coil in the battery hole supposed to make the battery a little difficult to slide in? It is hitting the battery on the way in and I need to "wiggle" or strain the battery in one direction in order to make the battery go in.
thx
thx
schwullerusa
Well-Known Member
melissa: i don't like the idea of traveling with vaporizers, bongs, etc. who needs the aggravation? however, like you, i have a condition that requires it. i travel internationally twice a month. so, take your LB and brush it off, followed by 45 seconds to a minute or so with a compressed air can, then cycle a troth of tobacco through the unit, then take the unit and stuff it into a bag of tobacco. close it with a rubber band and let it stay that way at least a day before you leave and pack it like that into your checked luggage. if asked, you like tobacco but your condition does not allow you to combust. dont carry anything other than tobacco.
I wanted to add my opinion to the idea of carrying the LB on a flight.
I think it can be done and the suggestion re the tobacco and using air to clean it etc. is a good one, but only if you absolutely really MUST take the risk of carrying it.
I hesitate to bring this up because it is a competitor's product, and certainly I love the LB. But if I HAD to carry a vaporizer on a trip, I'd take just the top portion of a Vapor Genie. That's the heating element. Once you get to where you're going you can go to about any head shop, I presume, and get a cheap-o pipe that will connect to the standard thread on the Vapor Genie heating piece. That way there'd be less chance of a tiny molecule of herb being found in an LB's innards.
But in today's security-heavy atmosphere I'd really really try NOT to carry any paraphernalia or marijuana on a plane. IF it is medical marijuana, you MIGHT buy yourself some leniency but really, I doubt it. In any case, do carry your Doctor's recommendation. As for taking a jar, that might alert a dog trained to recognize the smell, and would be just something else someone might find to alert them that you might be carrying. So I don't think I'd take that. I really don't think that a Dr. recommendation will save you when dealing with Federal authorities... UNLESS they are following Obama's new guidelines of not prosecuting pot busts. (However I have heard that at least one Federal dept is not following that suggestion, so again, I would not count on it.)
As to someone saying you can carry medicinal mj on a plane, I am pretty sure that is NOT true. It may be true for an Oregon to CA flight, for example where both states have legalized medicinal mj. But I am quite sure it is not true for a flight from a legalizatiion state to a non-legalization state.
Oh, and isn't paraphernalia illegal in some states, like Pennsylvania? I believe Tommy Chong was sent to Federal Prison because his son's company sold some glass bongs to an undercover Fed from Pennsylvania. A new completely clean LB or VG with NO smell might make it through as you could argue that it's not paraphernalia, it is used to smoke tobacco.
Bottom line: Don't do it unless you really really REALLY have to.
Another option would be to just buy a new Vapor Genie for $50 or so every time you fly. Frankly I'd do that before carrying a used one on a flight or packing one in my suitcase! Some headshops carry them, too, but I've seen them go for $80 at stores. (If you can afford it, get a new LB instead!
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Okay, sorry for the Vapor Genie talk. But since we're dealing with something as important as potential prison time, I thought it was justified to make my point re the VG.
By the way, I sympathize with the member who really needs it and I'd probably use one of these tactics, too, if I was her. But I wouldn't do it for recreation or minor medical marijuana symptoms.
I think it can be done and the suggestion re the tobacco and using air to clean it etc. is a good one, but only if you absolutely really MUST take the risk of carrying it.
I hesitate to bring this up because it is a competitor's product, and certainly I love the LB. But if I HAD to carry a vaporizer on a trip, I'd take just the top portion of a Vapor Genie. That's the heating element. Once you get to where you're going you can go to about any head shop, I presume, and get a cheap-o pipe that will connect to the standard thread on the Vapor Genie heating piece. That way there'd be less chance of a tiny molecule of herb being found in an LB's innards.
But in today's security-heavy atmosphere I'd really really try NOT to carry any paraphernalia or marijuana on a plane. IF it is medical marijuana, you MIGHT buy yourself some leniency but really, I doubt it. In any case, do carry your Doctor's recommendation. As for taking a jar, that might alert a dog trained to recognize the smell, and would be just something else someone might find to alert them that you might be carrying. So I don't think I'd take that. I really don't think that a Dr. recommendation will save you when dealing with Federal authorities... UNLESS they are following Obama's new guidelines of not prosecuting pot busts. (However I have heard that at least one Federal dept is not following that suggestion, so again, I would not count on it.)
As to someone saying you can carry medicinal mj on a plane, I am pretty sure that is NOT true. It may be true for an Oregon to CA flight, for example where both states have legalized medicinal mj. But I am quite sure it is not true for a flight from a legalizatiion state to a non-legalization state.
Oh, and isn't paraphernalia illegal in some states, like Pennsylvania? I believe Tommy Chong was sent to Federal Prison because his son's company sold some glass bongs to an undercover Fed from Pennsylvania. A new completely clean LB or VG with NO smell might make it through as you could argue that it's not paraphernalia, it is used to smoke tobacco.
Bottom line: Don't do it unless you really really REALLY have to.
Another option would be to just buy a new Vapor Genie for $50 or so every time you fly. Frankly I'd do that before carrying a used one on a flight or packing one in my suitcase! Some headshops carry them, too, but I've seen them go for $80 at stores. (If you can afford it, get a new LB instead!
)Okay, sorry for the Vapor Genie talk. But since we're dealing with something as important as potential prison time, I thought it was justified to make my point re the VG.
By the way, I sympathize with the member who really needs it and I'd probably use one of these tactics, too, if I was her. But I wouldn't do it for recreation or minor medical marijuana symptoms.
schwullerusa
Well-Known Member
MoOnTheMoon: i really agree with everything you have said. as a major lurker on these forums, i would have to have someone, who already is busy with a medical condition, create another headache for themselves. how about using the internet to source local meds wherever you are going, and whipping up some good edibles when you get there? that way you are getting your medication without resorting to combustion. that's one idea. this is a longshot but how about putting a free local ad on craigslist wherever you are going, and BORROW a vaporizer locally! i know if i saw that someone with a medical need was coming to LA and needed to borrow one, i would surely let them give me some deposit and borrow one of mine for there stay! hell you might make a friend out of it!
just food for thought.
just food for thought.
Unfortunately, edibles don't do a damn thing for my appetite.schwullerusa said:
And, my cancer treatement is Rick Simpson's hemp oil (THC oil really), so I really don't have a choice but to take the chance. If I could go without it, I most certainly would. xxoo
Melissa