Arizer Solo

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On the Stoop
These work great for storing ground flowers. This size will hold a bowl or two:



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These were very popular in the 70's and 80's :lol:
 

OF

Well-Known Member
These work great for storing ground flowers. This size will hold a bowl or two:

For some time I've used these guys for MFLB and other loads:
http://www.specialtybottle.com/1dramamberglassvialwblackcap.aspx

They are larger in diameter so easier to fill and empty. They're about the size of AA batteries so fit into some AA holders. Makes for handy, premeasured, reloads.

However, for routine reloading I like to use Doob Tubes (as sold by PV). One will hold more than enough bud to support a full battery charge.
http://www.planetvape.ca/vaporizer-accessories/storage/doob-tubes-en.html

For a while I was using blue caps for Sativas, Red for Indicas but finally settled for a tape label of strain instead. Here on the desk top I have 8 of them rubber banded together, favorite strains from the past ready for a 'special change of pace'.

Life is good.

OF
 

spoutti

Well-Known Member
Alright thanks. One other question, can I just smoke say half a bowl (for 6 mins) and then come back to it at a later time leaving it in the solo/stem, or do I have to go the full 12 minutes and empty the bowl before turning off the Solo? Because I've been on a tolerance break for 3.5 weeks, don't want to get too ripped today haha.
I started vaping after a few weeks break too :) Im sure it helped me doing the switch to vaping.

I personnaly prefer to kill a small load than a big for 2 times. But when im interrupted, I pull the stem out and then pull air through it to cool the load fast.
 

Scrappy34

Member
No problem, in fact just the opposite. The battery is only good for so many charge cycles, wasting part of one when you don't need it is wasting part of one when you don't need it.

The only possible downside is you lose ground heating up again next time, but if you're done with the session........
OF
yea you're probably right about that.

It seems like my battery isn't lasting as long as it used to. Iv'e used it 4 times since its been off the charger and I currently have a charge level of 4. I vape at lvl 5 so maybe that's why.
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
What do folks do for stems-on-the-go? I have corks handy, but they are bulky. I'm thinking maybe using balloons as stemly condoms. Spilling weed is as bad as spilling seed.
I put a screen on top of my loads to keep the flower from falling out or touching the heating element. It's not smell-proof but works just fine for travel.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
yea you're probably right about that.

It seems like my battery isn't lasting as long as it used to. Iv'e used it 4 times since its been off the charger and I currently have a charge level of 4. I vape at lvl 5 so maybe that's why.

I wouldn't put much stock in that, really. You know the old saw about blind pigs finding food...... It's been quite a while since I got one right, I was due long ago.......

I think 'a light a session' is a good guide. If you fully charge, the top LED should have 2 or even 3 sessions for you (the lower ones are about .1 Volt apart, but the top covers a couple tenths of a Volt). Normally these types of batteries establish a level early on and very slowly (and uniformly) degrade to about 90% of that value then drop much more quickly. Mine went from 'doesn't seem like as much as before' to four sessions per charge in a couple of weeks. I didn't have much time to wonder about it.......

Sounds like you're on track to me. Time to pile those session on?

OF
 

Scott A

Well-Known Member
Any cheap places to buy a solo charger? I lost mine and Im not really willing to spend $30 + shipping to get this thing back up and running.
 

ou812?

Well-Known Member
@ CAROLKING Thank you for the info,one more question with the newer version, is there a set up that lets you use it and not charge or can I use my older power supply unit. Im concerned about what you said about charging and using at the same time,so just to understand,Newer version allows the use of a power cord that doubles as the charger and a power source but not able to just charge or just power up and use on AC CURRENT? Am I understanding that right? no more 2 adjuncts, a charger and a power source, just one that doubles as 2 correct? If so that might not be good. ok thank you once again :nod:
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
You can use the old version PA to charge the Solo. You can only use and charge at the same time. You cannot by pass the battery using the PA only to plug and use feature. If that makes sense. There are some draw backs to the newer version Solo. Since it charges so quickly that's a plus.

I use my older version Solo to use with my PA to plug and use at the same time. Maybe keep your eyes open for an older model Solo to buy used, so you can have two. The batteries look easily replaced.
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I was talking about using the Solo as is. OF will have to chime in about unplugging the battery or you can do a search. I don't feel qualified to address that.
 

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
Any cheap places to buy a solo charger? I lost mine and Im not really willing to spend $30 + shipping to get this thing back up and running.

I know I can't find any.

$30 ain't that bad of a price to get the solo up and running but you could save a couple of bucks and buy a car charger and use a 12V power source but that'll still run you 20 bucks or so.

Three things you do need 1) charger 2) stem 3) solo, take any of these away and the darn thing don't vape all that well.

Buy that charger.
 

Jappie

Member
Been vaping with the Solo for about 2 months now, absolutely love it! Where I sometimes got burned flowers with the MFLB, the Solo has been perfect! Even with small amounts of herb, lovely thick clouds and big hits. Really efficient way to get the most out of the herb :)

Now looking to get some new goodies from Planet Vape for some extra fun :p
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Actually I think I've previously read that you can use it directly with the old PA if you unplug the battery first.
I might be wrong.
I was talking about using the Solo as is. OF will have to chime in about unplugging the battery or you can do a search. I don't feel qualified to address that.

Yes, under some conditions I've run the new one without a battery. And also used the PA to charge (in some cases shutting down 'early' which I think would be a useful feature). However, this is dependent on the exact voltages involved, and doesn't seem to be all that repeatable (that is sometimes what worked last time doesn't 'start up').

The potential is there, we may figure out how to use it, but it's not a feature you can count on now near as I can tell.

The supplied charger just doesn't provide enough power alone, it depends on the battery making up the difference. Depending on the levels the battery charges but then discharges the same current several times in the same minute. Miles on the battery, but no progress?

Any cheap places to buy a solo charger? I lost mine and Im not really willing to spend $30 + shipping to get this thing back up and running.

Radio Shack sells one that has adapters, one of which matches the Solo. It's been discussed several times. I suggest either searching this thread (I bet 'Radio Shack' works well?) or simply taking your Solo charger in to be sure you get the right adapter.

OF
 

Dr. Soxhlet

SOLO Vaporized Cannabis is my Best Medicine
with the newer version, is there a set up that lets you use it and not charge or can I use my older power supply unit. Im concerned about what you said about charging and using at the same time,so just to understand,Newer version allows the use of a power cord that doubles as the charger and a power source but not able to just charge or just power up and use on AC CURRENT? Am I understanding that right?

I received an email from Arizer that answered that very question. The email stated:

There is no battery bypass in the Solo. The Solo Power Adapter will trickle charge the battery. If your Solo can be used while charging, the unit will use up to 9V for heating, and any remaining unused voltage trickle charges the battery.

However, I have been able to use an original Playstation 2--- 8.5 volt 5.65 Amp power supply without the charging light coming on. That only worked well if the Solo was first charged to level 7(almost topped up). I just keep hitting it while using this way to keep the Solo in the heat mode. if you let it sit too long it will go back into charging mode again.
It seems to run off the house current when used this way-the battery level stays on 7 for a long time. I can't tell if it actually trickles a charge to the Solo; just without the flashing green charge light.

Yes, it is confusing. Maybe someone else with one of the newer models could try too this and report back.
 
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OF

Well-Known Member
I received an email from Arizer that answered that very question. The email stated:

There is no battery bypass in the Solo. The Solo Power Adapter will trickle charge the battery. If your Solo can be used while charging, the unit will use up to 9V for heating, and any remaining unused voltage trickle charges the battery.

However, I have been able to use an original Playstation 2--- 8.5 volt 5.65 Amp power supply without the charging light coming on.

Yes, it is confusing. Maybe someone else with one of the newer models could try too this and report back.

As I've said a few times, I've experimented with a VV supply in the PA range and get an assortment if results that thus far make little sense. I think the resistance of the circuit has a role as well, adding or removing a 3 foot extension cable can change the results sometimes. I suspect having to do with a voltage drop when charging current is drawn?

I agree, you get near 'break even'. That is the battery discharge is immediately made up but I never measured zero battery current in any PA attempts. To get the PA to provide all the power you need to remove the battery. While I'm confident of my observations, hopefully some interested soul(s) will repeat them?

FWIW, I find the area between 8.7 and 8.9 Volts most promising.

I believe the charge LED to be a software function, I've seen charging current (over .7 Amps IIRC) flowing but the charge light out. I've also seen it claiming to be charging when the current was down around .03 Amps, barely enought to light the LEDs. I think this is not an intended operating mode.

The quote above from the maker has been posted a couple of times. It's clearly technically flawed around the "any remaining unused voltage trickle charges the battery" part. Such is not only clearly not happening but even correcting 'unused voltage' for 'unused current' doesn't fit IMO. The only part of that 'standard response' is the part that they don't consider battery bypass to be a feature available in the new model.....more's the pity there IMO.

Regards to all, fortunately this stuff doesn't have to interfere with the primary function of Solo.....making vapor.

OF
 

Dr. Soxhlet

SOLO Vaporized Cannabis is my Best Medicine
I find the area between 8.7 and 8.9 Volts most promising.

fortunately this stuff doesn't have to interfere with the primary function of Solo.....making vapor.

OF

I should clarify:the actual measured voltage of the PA I used was 8.7 Volts.

And the Solo does make vapor very well !!
 

OF

Well-Known Member
I should clarify:the actual measured voltage of the PA I used was 8.7 Volts.

And the Solo does make vapor very well !!

That fits with what I see. Drop a bit and no joy. At that level, charging doesn't always start if the Solo is down to a couple of lights for me. Sometimes taking a cable out of the system (lowering the total resistance a bit) can get charging to start normally. At 8.75 or so it stops just barely into the step 7 range......usually.

Thanks for the additional details, seems we're seeing about the same things, I'm just finding it too 'fiddly'.

OF
 

Dr. Soxhlet

SOLO Vaporized Cannabis is my Best Medicine
To get the PA to provide all the power you need to remove the battery. While I'm confident of my observations, hopefully some interested soul(s) will repeat them?



OF

You talked me into it. I disassembled the Solo and pulled the battery. I plugged in the 8.7 Volt PA and again it did something unexpected: All seven yellow "level" lights flashed alternating with a flashing red heating light.
I did not leave it plugged in long enough to see if it actually was heating as
it did not appear to be functioning correctly.

Those flashing lights spooked me.
I plugged the PA in again and went ahead and set the heat level to 7 and YES it does heat with this PA plugged in without the battery!!!
So if a Solo owner has one of these Power Adapters the Solo could still be used where electricity is available even after the battery died.
 
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OF

Well-Known Member
I plugged the PA in again and went ahead and set the heat level to 7 and YES it does heat with this PA plugged in without the battery!!!
So if a Solo owner has one of these Power Adapters the Solo could still be used where electricity is available even after the battery died.

I still say 'might'. Before it can be recommended it needs to be researched I think. That would include a careful search for heat buildup. If advice given out here leads to guys pulling weak batteries and running in a mode the maker never intended and that leads to some failure rendering the Solo that at most needed a battery before hand dead that will be a true disservice. It's got potential, but IMO not an option as yet.

One of those 'first, do no harm' things. Bum me right out if someone followed my advice and came to grief. I'm sure you're the same.

FWIW I wonder if the flashing lights is instability in the supply. Probably not ripple, but I guess that's possible. There's nothing to charge, so it's probably not the same instability I'm looking at. I'm wondering if it's a function of the exact voltage (like what I'm seeing seems to be)?

OF
 

Yoduh

Well-Known Member
Hello all. Quick question. My solo arrived (ty Randy) I unboxed it and plugged it in. At first the lights were at 5 and worked their way up to 7 while the charge light was blinking green. it's now solid green and its only been about an hour and a half. I am supposed to leave it charging 8 hrs first time now matter what the lights do?
 
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