The Grasshopper

alphabj · Jun 3, 2014

HillaryClinton said:
If its in contact how does it not burn?

They claim that the heater will never get hotter than the desired temperature, and since that temp can't get up past 452 F there won't be combustion. This is a big claim requiring some serious insulation capabilities.

invertedisdead said:
They had a prototype video so long ago I was under the impression the funding was just to produce the product and get it to shelves. It seems like they still had to go in and actually engineer all the stuff they claimed it would feature. Maybe I'm being naive but that's what the original video seemed to indicate. I'm not angry about it, I'm still floored for this pen and much prefer the company to delay and release an incredible product then rush to market like so many other crappy vape companies; just that the original campaign seemed to allude to a much closer speed to market availability.

My thoughts exactly. It takes tons of work to get everything to fit into that little tube and still work, so I thought they pretty much had it all figured out since they had a video of a guy using it. So I don't really understand all these "tweaks" that are taking up the time, amongst purchase of laser welders, etc. But I should probably stop whining and be glad that they're making it better (unless they're just BSing with these adjustment claims).

Wizsteve said:
sorry having a hard believing what i read if the unit uses 30 watts and battery last for 3 hours ?? that would make the battery mah what?

The heater stays at a very low, baseline state (almost off) until you start to pull and the temp goes down again. Then it will heat back up accordingly. That's the beauty of it

... don't need to worry about losing vapor or forgetting to turn it off for a long time. Again, this is consistent with their massive insulation claims.

J.D.420 · Jun 3, 2014

From what I understand the protoype was hand made by their engineers and the design had to be modified to allow for easy mass production and fast assembly. Basically they couldn't just make more of the prototype as it exists because it would take a few days just to put a single grasshopper together.

t-dub · Jun 3, 2014

J.D.420 said:
From what I understand the protoype was hand made by their engineers and the design had to be modified to allow for easy mass production and fast assembly. Basically they couldn't just make more of the prototype as it exists because it would take a few days just to put a single grasshopper together.

Combine this with running out of $$$ and "POOF" end of story.

mephisto · Jun 3, 2014

I think by the time these fellas get a GH out the door to the public, the battlefield will be quite different.
I know my lust for portable, clean,fast, ...vaping has already been quelled by another new release. Frankly, the GH has already become obsolete for my use and will probably be gifted away......No sour grapes here, just found a different/better route for me.

Delerrar · Jun 3, 2014

mephisto said:
I think by the time these fellas get a GH out the door to the public, the battlefield will be quite different.
I know my lust for portable, clean,fast, ...vaping has already been quelled by another new release. Frankly, the GH has already become obsolete for my use and will probably be gifted away......No sour grapes here, just found a different/better route for me.

Mind if I ask which one? I'm guessing the Indica but I may ne wrong.

Wizsteve · Jun 3, 2014

HillaryClinton said:
I slightly remember them explaining this but maybe I was dreaming? Anyone have a link or post explaining it, kinda curios, though doesn't the Ascent last for like 2.5-3 hours? I am gonna ask my engineering friend actually, he backed it also, maybe he can chime in....

ascent has space for more than one battery uses 2? this one however is 14 mm wide so max battery size would be the 14500 those give about 500 mah so 3.7v *.5=1.85 watt hours to last 3 hours it would need to avg .62 watts .if fully drained 1200 mah *3.7v =4.4 watt hours at 30 watts battery would be drained in 5-10 mins.

J.D.420 · Jun 3, 2014

Some really cool portables have been released in the past 6 months to be sure but in terms of size portability and form factor the GH still has everyone beat IMO.

poonman · Jun 3, 2014

mephisto said:
I think by the time these fellas get a GH out the door to the public, the battlefield will be quite different.
I know my lust for portable, clean,fast, ...vaping has already been quelled by another new release. Frankly, the GH has already become obsolete for my use and will probably be gifted away......No sour grapes here, just found a different/better route for me.

Delerrar said:
Mind if I ask which one? I'm guessing the Indica but I may ne wrong.

My guess , Elevape ?

CG420 · Jun 3, 2014

If a year on Scientist's new Kepler-10c aka Super Earth lasts only 45 days, how many more years would it have taken for this little grasshopper here on Earth to be readily available?

It seems we all are being fed the fishing line and eat nothing from their end. This vaporizer better come out soon and once it does, I am getting a refund. I could already imagine warranty exchanges to be a horrible process judging by the wait time we are experiencing right now. I should have opted for the INH-005 as it looks so much more promising. A rule now for me is to wait for a vaporizer to come out first and then judge by other people's experiences. This wait time is ridiculous and I am surprised at Indiegogo for not expressing their concerns about the company's progress.

FUnhouse · Jun 3, 2014

Funny
The Grasshopper is what got me excited about vaping again .
I missed the campaign but have been watching the updates... for ever.
Sadly by the time it comes out I will probably have spent all my money on another setup and not need one anyway .
But hey it let me here to FC , So either way, its all good .

caliwisp · Jun 3, 2014

I'm not worried. If it falls through we get our money back. But they have been working so hard on it for so long -- and it has a great deal of potential.

I don't doubt the engineering part. But making the precision-engineered product a reality must be very challenging, especially when dealing with manufacturers and suppliers, some in other countries, one piece from here, another from there . . . and they all are supposed to fit together perfectly and perform consistently.

However, we are having to go on their learning curve with them as they navigate the realities of engineering and manufacturing, as well as those of setting up and running a business, including legal stuff, facilities, and customer service, and whatnot.

There still is a real need for a small, healthy, sturdy convection vape. I hope it works out for their sake and ours.

Fingers crossed!

darkrom · Jun 3, 2014

caliwisp said:
I'm not worried. If it falls through we get our money back.

What makes you think that? Its my understanding that you DONATED money to them to build the product, and you just happen to get one free. My understanding is that if they release a pile of shit and call it the grasshopper, there is nothing you can do about it. Even more so now that it is months and months later.

Adobewan · Jun 3, 2014

caliwisp said:
I'm not worried. If it falls through we get our money back. ...

Didn't know that was the case with crowd funding. I consider that good news for all but the very impatient. If this is true, my concerns about crowd funded projects being license to take good people's greenios without delivering, will be extinguished.
Would you elaborate a little on the protection we're provided in this case?

Thanks for posting good news!

lwien · Jun 3, 2014

caliwisp said:
I'm not worried. If it falls through we get our money back.

You do? And if you do, do you get your money back with interest?

It's been kinda of a long time in keeping your money tied up, eh?

mephisto · Jun 3, 2014

@poonman -winner winner chicken dinner.

green2brown · Jun 3, 2014

caliwisp said:
I'm not worried. If it falls through we get our money back. But they have been working so hard on it for so long -- and it has a great deal of potential.

According to the Indiegogo website, contributions (key choice of word there) are nonrefundable. In the event that you would like a refund for any reason, you have to contact the campaign owner directly. It is then up to the campaign owner to decide whether or not to grant the refund. Nowhere on the Indiegogo site that I can see is there a guarantee of any sort that you will receive your perk or get a refund. So with all that said, if it falls through then everyone is likely out their contribution amount.

darkrom · Jun 3, 2014

green2brown said:
According to the Indiegogo website, contributions (key choice of word there) are nonrefundable. In the event that you would like a refund for any reason, you have to contact the campaign owner directly. It is then up to the campaign owner to decide whether or not to grant the refund. Nowhere on the Indiegogo site that I can see is there a guarantee of any sort that you will receive your perk or get a refund. So with all that said, if it falls through then everyone is likely out their contribution amount.

Yes. I read on reddit that the owner said there will be no refunds. Now that may be incorrect info, but I completely believe it based on everything else going real sour real fast.

Fenton Mewley · Jun 3, 2014

caliwisp said:
I'm not worried. If it falls through we get our money back.

I hope it works out for their sake and ours.

Fingers crossed!

You better because there is no liability on the part of IGG. If this project runs out of money and dies, there's no refund for any of us. Sorry that you were told differently, but there's no refunds when it dies.

It was a donation. If you put more stock into it, you're in for a bigger fall.

If you are really worried, you might be able to get refund now by contacting Trevor, but I wouldn't count on it.

Chill Dude · Jun 3, 2014

Believe me, if they produce the portable of all portables and really hit a home run, I think everyone will forget about the wait time. All the bickering will stop and everyone will be in a vapor cloud of grasshopper utopia!! If not, there will surely be a lot of pissed off people lol....

lwien said:
You do? And if you do, do you get your money back with interest?

It's been kinda of a long time in keeping your money tied up, eh?

$100 with interest for a year... What's that $1 lol. I don't think anyone is too concerned about that.

caliwisp · Jun 3, 2014

Hi Folks, this is from the Indegogo page:

<<What happens if we don't reach our goal? - If the funding goal isn't reached, everyone will receive a full refund. The money is held by indiegogo until the goal is met, so refunds will go smoothly.>>

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grasshopper-vaporizer

Stu · Jun 3, 2014

caliwisp said:
Hi Folks, this is from the Indegogo page:

<<What happens if we don't reach our goal? - If the funding goal isn't reached, everyone will receive a full refund. The money is held by indiegogo until the goal is met, so refunds will go smoothly.>>

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grasshopper-vaporizer

But the funding goal was met. And exceeded by a lot. So this does not apply.

:peace:

grokit · Jun 3, 2014

I can't wait for this thing, hurry up already :whip:

!

Fenton Mewley · Jun 4, 2014

caliwisp said:
Hi Folks, this is from the Indegogo page:

<<What happens if we don't reach our goal? - If the funding goal isn't reached, everyone will receive a full refund. The money is held by indiegogo until the goal is met, so refunds will go smoothly.>>

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grasshopper-vaporizer

There's a huge difference in the terminology here. Goal refers to the funding goal. IGG only gives the money to the project team if they meet their funding goal, as you quoted.

The project goal, making a vaporizer, has no claims.

Besides, if they spent all the money on the parts, machines, ect., where do they get another $300,000 to pay off backers?

@Chill Dude, totally agree man. If this thing is a home run, everyone will be too busy enjoying it to complain too much. If it's anything but, people will have a hard time enjoying it, complaints a plenty.

I just hope that GH doesn't have to resort to an investor if they go broke, and makes them price retail units at $250 (and $325 for Ti). But I suppose getting the units out is the most important thing here.

grokit · Jun 4, 2014

Why is everybody discussing them going broke when they more than doubled their fundraising goal?

edit: if they need cash all they have to do is open up a pre-order channel anyways

Unisonruss · Jun 4, 2014

They're running later than expected...big deal. We will live. The prototype clearly works, and now they're adjusting to mass production, and learning as they go. They also didn't plan to relocate, I'm sure, but they had to.

The facts: they are now relocated, and have a central office. They are working everyday. No breaks. They are being active on Instagram, too, posting updates. They are creating an amazing product, I have a feeling. I have a sixth sense with vaporizers, I'm telling you

These guys are not after taking your money and running...they want to release a great V1.

Around Christmas I'll get one...in the mean time I'll just enjoy my Lotus, another awesome portable. Peace!

The Grasshopper

Well-Known Member

420th Dragoons

Vapor Sloth

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

420th Dragoons

Well-Known Member

Over the horizon u can see the edges of the Earth

Well-Known Member

Cali Dreamin'

Great Scott!

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Great Scott!

A man in search of cloudier pastures

Well-Known Member

Cali Dreamin'

Maconheiro

well-worn member

A man in search of cloudier pastures

well-worn member

Well-Known Member