The WISPR vaporizer

RUDE BOY

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@misanthrope I don't know why you would worry about "burning down the house" with a wispr. If you like your Iolite and your comfortable with it you'll like the WISPR 2 I think. The wispr has served me very well never had a problem with my two units (my first was broken in the box, Not defective but crushed and cracked somehow in shipping I guess).

If you don't need adjustable temp control and can deal with the harsher vapor(too me anyways) I think the wispr or iolite is still a good choice, at least for a on the go backup vaporizer.

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PoisonousHydra

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As someone who has lived through a nightmare with my WISPR, I would just like to chime in here and emphasize that while my experience is certainly not unheard of I would certainly never go so far as to say that it in any way approaches the norm.

You may have already noticed that I was one of the people who suggested you get a WISPR in your buying advice thread. From my personal experience, nothing else comes close in terms of sheer enjoyment to use. It sounds to me like you know that you want a WISPR, but are having trouble setting some of your doubts aside.

As mentioned, the majority of my returns were quick and painless, and even if you do wind up getting a batch of lemons, you can always consider letting a sealed return go on here or on eBay for a bit of a discount. I'm sure you would be able to recuperate the majority of your investment in the process.

In summary, I would say that getting a WISPR is a fairly low risk proposition. I personally have been unable to find anything that compares in the other handhelds I've tried. The WISPR truly is a thing of beauty, and it deeply saddens me that our relationship just wasn't meant to be. The WISPR, for me, will always be that "one that got away" :luv:.
 

misanthrope

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Right, well. Received my WISPR2 on Friday, so thought it would be good to do a first impressions/initial usage report.

Really nice looking unit, feels strongly built etc. On the positive side it produces nice thick vapour with an easier draw as I was hoping - definitely 10/10 on that note.

However there are negatives too (or what I perceive as negatives anyway). Firstly, I haven't properly tested the length of time the butane lasts (will do that soon) but I have noticed other stuff.

E.G. Fill it up completely with butane, go for a half hour walk with it, and two thirds of the butane in that visible window is gone. Now if this window is indicative of how much butane is in the device, then this is not very good compared to original Iolite. I have run the WISPR2 for a half hour session after the window indicates no butane, so I really don't know what's going on there. Could I have a faulty unit? Difficult to tell until I have properly tested the 2.5 hour claim.

The increase in temperature to 210 seems like a good move when you get that initial drag of thick, delicious vapour, but when the fourth drag is already starting to taste spent, I do wonder if the trade off was worth it. Perhaps 200 would have been a better temp to go for.

I think there could be some argument for the idea that you actually get more out of your bud in my original Iolite because you are sipping on it for ages - I could literally be toking that iolite for half an hour plus, whereas try this with my WISPR2 and I get burnt herbs (literally bonfire smell). You have to listen to what the WISPR2 tells your taste buds - when it tastes spent; empty that bowl, it's done - and quicker than you thought.

Do not think this is a slating of the WISPR, it is an impressive piece of kit, which has both advantages and imo, disadvantages over original Iolite. One thing I grossly underestimated was how much quicker it would go through a little bit of herb - this thing turns my herb dark brown MUCH faster than my SSV and I'm not sure this is a good thing.

In summary Iolite Original Vs Wispr2 is a trade off of losses and gains:

1. WISPR2 gives you clearer, easier draw with cleaner, thicker, tastier hits initially, which very quickly decline in quality. Vs Iolite which tastes pretty vague the whole way through, but will keep you puffing for much longer - possibly sucking more actives out of the herb on a gradual basis.

2. WISPR2 looks impressive and stealthy but you do not have a padded case Vs Iolite - I use mine in it's padded case when I'm walking around and have never had any problems providing the case is not sealed and the grilled bit of the IO that kicks out water vapour is unobstructed. While this provides a bit more subtlety when out and about, the IO continues it's cycle after being switched off whereas you can switch off your WISPR's noisy cycle the moment you see a police officer walk round the corner - very handy! I do wish the WISPR had a similar case, but with ventilation holes built in the right places, because it feels a bit weird putting it in your pocket without case (come on O&B, drawstring bag = unimaginative)

3. That noisy old roar of the WISPR2 is much louder than the hiss of the Iolite, however, it reaches temp quicker and you can switch off the WISPR immediately at any time.

Perhaps I'm just having difficulty adjusting to something new or perhaps I have a dodgy unit. But I would advise anyone thinking of purchasing from O&B to consider the Iolite original, especially if STEALTH is their main concern. If clouds are your main concern go for WISPR2.

Both units have an equal level of fiddlyness, so don't worry about that.

Any advice on how to better utilize my WISPR2, and whether it sounds as if it's faulty or not would be much appreciated.

Modnote: back to back posts merged.

Hope I'm not breaking a rule by posting straight after myself, but I've just used this WISPR2 for the third time and I am not impressed. This thing is behaving more like an electric pipe than a vape.

Just reduced my ground bud to completely dark brown/black in about five decent draws, and tasted like burning from the third. My girlfriend commented that it smells like burning - not what I want to hear. I pulled the mouth piece out and I've got herb stuck to that central pin and it is smoking like the proverbial motherf***er - not what I want to see. So effectively I have a tiny fire next to a butane tank, which I occasionally put next to my face. Hmmmm.

I am lightly stoned right now, but not much. I've always thought of vaping as something you relish and take time over. Am seriously considering contacting O&B about this, surely if it burns the plant matter rather than vaping it, this is a trade description issue?

Maybe I should have just ordered a new IO original or an Arizer SOLO.:shrug:

Maybe one of you guys has some advice as to how I can make better use of this WISPR2 and thus get a better experience from it.:huh:

Generally speaking, right now, I feel like I've been done. :doh:
 
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PoisonousHydra

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@misanthrope - I did find that the WISPR 2 ran hotter than the first model, but never to the point of cashing out a load in 5 draws or so. I have always been good for at least a half hour with about 0.2 or so. I have seen what you mentioned about plant matter sticking to the top of the heating pin. If it was a big enough chunk, that could have been the source of the burning smell and taste. Try grinding your herb a little less, or using a more moist blend with your WISPR so that it will last longer, and be less likely to overheat. The most familiar thing you mentioned was that of the butane seeming to not last for long. Sadly, this always came down to a leaking unit in my experience. Do me a favour and: fill the unit up completely with butane; wait 30 seconds or so; turn it on; immediately when it fires up, put your ear to the bottom butane valve. If you hear a "hissing" sound, then you have one of the infamous leaky units :(. I have found that the leaks are always much worse under full pressure, and when running, which is the root of my suggestions.

If you don't hear anything, and it's fine in that regard, I would give it at least a week or so: keep using it and trying different things with it, and you may learn to enjoy it. For example, it took me months to realize that, for me at least, the "six-shooters" that hold the screens are complete bullshit. My preferred configuration is now to put one of the steel "C" clips in the bottom on the bowl, put two screens (no revolver parts necessary :D) on top of that, and then another "C" clip on top.
 

misanthrope

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Thanks for your swift reply. Sadly, sounds like I've got one of those leaky units. :cry: It leaks worse under pressure, 2/3 empty in no time at all. Much less longevity than original Iolite.

I will email customer services as I think spent to the point of burning black herb after 4 - 5 draws is unacceptable. Leaking gas for £109 - not cool and potentially dangerous imo.

Sadly, once something like this has happened, I kind of lose faith in a product so perhaps if I'm very polite O&B (who I bought from directly) might be amenable to sending me an IO original and refunding the difference. However, having tasted the first hits from the WISPR, maybe I will give it one more chance...
 

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
Yeah, misanthrope it really sucks that both the og iolite and wisprs quality are so untrustworthy. When you get a good one you'll love it but you have to go through a half dozen or so to find that ONE that works.

Go Solo.
My wispr will only be used now if the power is out for weeks and I've lost or broken the hammer vape.
 

Mynameismud

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Thanks for your swift reply. Sadly, sounds like I've got one of those leaky units. :cry: It leaks worse under pressure, 2/3 empty in no time at all. Much less longevity than original Iolite.

I will email customer services as I think spent to the point of burning black herb after 4 - 5 draws is unacceptable. Leaking gas for £109 - not cool and potentially dangerous imo.

Sadly, once something like this has happened, I kind of lose faith in a product so perhaps if I'm very polite O&B (who I bought from directly) might be amenable to sending me an IO original and refunding the difference. However, having tasted the first hits from the WISPR, maybe I will give it one more chance...
Sorry, your post was long so I skimmed over it. But is it running out and not working, or does it just look lower in the window based in the amount of time you used it?

Because if it just looks empty you can flip it upside down and see how much is really left...

Sorry if that's not what's going on and it's really leaking...

It's a shame that the "Wispr 2" is still having the same issues I had with the original Wispr 3 years ago
 
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misanthrope

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Sorry, your post was long so I skimmed over it. But is it running out and not working, or does it just look lower in the window based in the amount of time you used it?

Because if it just looks empty you can flip it upside down and see how much is really left...

Sorry if that's not what's going on and it's really leaking...

It's a shame that the "Wispr 2" is still having the same issues I had with the original Wispr 3 years ago

It's debatable whether or not it's leaking. I suspect it because the window runs out completely within 15 to 30 mins of use. Yes, turn it upside down and there is more gas in there, but I don't feel this is indicative of 2.5 Hours of use.

My main aconcern is the fact this thing combusts my herbs big time and it tastes terrible when it does. 210 Degrees is either too hot or my unit is running too hot.

I will contact them because this is meant to be their premium product, yet it is inferior to my original IolIte.
 
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misanthrope,

Mynameismud

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QUOTE="Mynameismud, post: 598894, member: 8679"]Sorry, your post was long so I skimmed over it. But is it running out and not working, or does it just look lower in the window based in the amount of time you used it?

Because if it just looks empty you can flip it upside down and see how much is really left...

Sorry if that's not what's going on and it's really leaking...

It's a shame that the "Wispr 2" is still having the same issues I had with the original Wispr 3 years ago

It's debatable whether or not it's leaking. I suspect it because the window runs out completely within 15 to 30 mins of use. Yes, turn it upside down and there is more gas in there, but I don't feel this is indicative of 2.5 Hours of use.

My main aconcern is the fact this thing combusts my herbs big time and it tastes terrible when it does. 210 Degrees is either too hot or my unit is running too hot.

I will contact them because this is meant to be their premium product, yet it is inferior to my original IolIte.
Yeah I never once got combustion in my Wispr. Is your ABV black with Ash? Because if it's not then your probably not getting combustion...the Wispr does run hotter and a little harsher than most other vaporizers if you can get used to it. But that really just resulted in the burnt popcorn taste no smoke or anything...

My leaks were occurring with the Wispr on and as well as it being off. Not sure if it's that same thing your experiencing but I had 2 different units with leaks. I started noticing it like you mentioned, I would use it one or 2 times and it would be completely empty. Then I noticed I would fill it up, not use it and come back the next day and the level would be significantly lower...
 

misanthrope

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Yeah I never once got combustion in my Wispr. Is your ABV black with Ash? Because if it's not then your probably not getting combustion...the Wispr does run hotter and a little harsher than most other vaporizers if you can get used to it. But that really just resulted in the burnt popcorn taste no smoke or anything...

My leaks were occurring with the Wispr on and as well as it being off. Not sure if it's that same thing your experiencing but I had 2 different units with leaks. I started noticing it like you mentioned, I would use it one or 2 times and it would be completely empty. Then I noticed I would fill it up, not use it and come back the next day and the level would be significantly lower...

Mine does not leak when not operating, it may be that the window only shows you the status of half a tank and you have to turn it upside down to find out whats remaining, if you know what I mean. Seems odd that it would use up a whole windows worth of butane on one bowl though.

I'm pretty certain I've had blackened herb and ash. I asked Iolite if running too hot was a common problem, but they didn't answer questions; they just said send it back - which I will.

If this thing is designed to cash out my herbs in 3 - 5 draws, I consider the WISPR2 to be a step backwards in design :( as with this method I felt much less effects.

I fear that Iolite might return what is to them a "working" unit, but really hope they give me the option of exchanging for a new IO original, as my faith in the WISPR2 product has been damaged.

Either way, I'm considering an Arizer Solo at the moment as that seems like a product more comparable to the SSV (but portable with restricted draw I've heard). And might keep my Iolite products for long periods of time on the go without electricity..
 
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PoisonousHydra

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If this thing is designed to cash out my herbs in 3 - 5 draws
No. A thousand times, no. My WISPR sessions were always ~45 minutes long. I had two second-generation WISPRS: an orange unit, and a black one. I found that the WISPR2 felt warmer in the hand, ran a little longer of a butane cycle, and was maybe a little bit hotter on the tongue. Essentially, I would say that the difference in heat between the ioLite and WISPR is about equal to the difference in heat between the WISPR and WISPR2. This is of course, only an educated guess. What you are describing is definitely not how it is intended to operate. Here's a little rhyme I wrote in your honour: if you're seeing black, send it back :D.
 

Mynameismud

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@misanthrope I know what you mean but that's not what I was saying. I even mentioned to flip it upside down for someone else who thought it was leaking...

When I experienced the leaks, it was on three different units. The first one only seemed to leak when in use (the window would be drastically lower after a short session) that turned into leaking constantly on or off after about a week. And the other 2 units leaked on or off from the get go...

I never got ash in mine, if I'd use it for an hr straight I could get dark dark brown/light black but definitely not combustion ...

And my sessions with Wispr were usually 30 mins long and got 4 or so uses out of it...

Solo is great, it's actually what I got after the Wispr... But I wouldn't recommend it as an alternative. For one it has very restricted airflow (I have read newer models are better though) but I would have hated it if i didn't buy a planet vape high efficiency stem. It's also pretty bulky. Almost every other portable type vaporizer is easier to fit in a pants pocket like jeans. And on top of it being bulky the stems are external so you have to carry around them separately. And if you drop one good luck cause they break fairly easily...

If money is an issue than solo is probably the best cheaper option. If not I would recommend something like the firefly
 

misanthrope

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@misanthrope I know what you mean but that's not what I was saying. I even mentioned to flip it upside down for someone else who thought it was leaking...

When I experienced the leaks, it was on three different units. The first one only seemed to leak when in use (the window would be drastically lower after a short session) that turned into leaking constantly on or off after about a week. And the other 2 units leaked on or off from the get go...

I never got ash in mine, if I'd use it for an hr straight I could get dark dark brown/light black but definitely not combustion ...

And my sessions with Wispr were usually 30 mins long and got 4 or so uses out of it...

Solo is great, it's actually what I got after the Wispr... But I wouldn't recommend it as an alternative. For one it has very restricted airflow (I have read newer models are better though) but I would have hated it if i didn't buy a planet vape high efficiency stem. It's also pretty bulky. Almost every other portable type vaporizer is easier to fit in a pants pocket like jeans. And on top of it being bulky the stems are external so you have to carry around them separately. And if you drop one good luck cause they break fairly easily...

If money is an issue than solo is probably the best cheaper option. If not I would recommend something like the firefly

Thanks for all your advice. I'm hoping that O&B sort my problem, because as PoisonousHydra says: If it's (abv) black send it back.

I couldn't resist the Solo, so did buy one in the end, just waiting for it to arrive.

I plan to use WISPR/IO as an outdoors for long periods of time vape, the Solo as a visiting friends vape and the SSV as my home vape. I will definitely look into high efficiency mouthpieces for the SOLO, and plan to stash it stealthily in a fast food cup if if out and about.

Will update on my experience with O&B but I haven't got round to sending it back yet :doh:
 
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Jack Sprat

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Hmmmm, I sent back my WISPR2 quite a while ago now and still no news. :shrug:

I wouldn't expect it anytime soon. My faulty Wispr has been in their hands for four weeks now, and still no word from them. Customer service initially told me that it would take around five days to process, depending on how busy they are. After no word from them I sent an email at the two week mark to insure that it actually made it into their system and didn't get lost in the mail room. I was told that they are short staffed and have a backlog.

Whilst I understand this, four weeks is far too long to process a warranty claim. Part of the reason I chose the Wispr is that it's made in the EU, and I assumed that any claims would be handled quickly and efficiently with no need for things going back to China. Must say I'm a little disappointed and now looking for an alternative. The Wispr does work well when it's problem free.
 

PoisonousHydra

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Hmmmm, I sent back my WISPR2 quite a while ago now and still no news. :shrug:
You seem to be like me, often procrastinating, and letting these things stretch out longer than they should. In this case, I would advise that you get on this immediately, via either phone, or e-mail. In my personal experiences, these delays on their part have always resulted in very bad things happening.
 

Jack Sprat

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My replacement Wispr arrived today. Seems that there is a communication problem at Iolite as I never received the promised shipping notice. Also, it ships via normal post, not DHL as their retail products do. All's well that ends well.
 

misanthrope

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You seem to be like me, often procrastinating, and letting these things stretch out longer than they should. In this case, I would advise that you get on this immediately, via either phone, or e-mail. In my personal experiences, these delays on their part have always resulted in very bad things happening.

Gentlemen, it seems all was well. Just received a brand new iolite original, because I expressed in my email that I preferred it and never had black herb.

The only thing I'm left wondering is whether my WISPR2 was faulty in their opinion or not. I would have been interested to know that.

Either way, all's well that ends well. O&B gave me exactly what I requested, you can't argue with that.
 
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thisperson

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I was intrigued by this system's butane use but just wanted to post that that doesn't sound like a very good deal.

You break your Ipad 2 apple gives you an Ipad 1. Granted at your request but I think there is something wrong in this picture.

I really like the unique design and powering methods. At least I haven't seen any other square steam punk looking boxes with butane systems.

I got the impression that it didn't work very well though, but youtube showed it working excellently to me and it looked great.

I don't think it's worth anywhere near 400 dollars as was stated when the thread started. I do like that it is 99 now. It is a real nice economy vape in my opinion, if it works. And I'm starting to want one.

/itch.
 
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RUDE BOY

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I do think a WISPR is well worth $99, I know a lot of people had problems with theirs but mine has been flawless. I've used mine a lot in the last few years and have no regrets over having spent $240 ish for it when they were new. I for one thought it was a step up from the iolite, I gave my iolite away after a week with the wispr and never looked back .

Over the last couple years I've collected a bunch of portable vapes none have completely replaced the WISPR so it's still in regular rotation, doesn't get used daily or even weekly now but it's always out and ready to go.

I wouldn't buy directly from O&B due to their kinda slow picky customer service but from a reputable vaporizer dealer that will deal with any warranty issues should they arise.

My little wispr is top notch, I like it a lot.
 

vaporlee

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For me Wispr2 taste full of butane and melting snorkel taste from the silicone mp.
Do not waste your money on this unit.
If still looking for butane powered try the Hammer vaporizer. I can guarantee you.
 
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RUDE BOY

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Today I met someone in the waiting room at a lab and we got to talking about herb.
When i brought up vaporizing this person said he'd tried it but it sucked, someone had gifted him a wispr a couple of years ago and it was worthless, "tasted like gas didn't make any 'smoke', Just useless" he says.

After I had my blood drawn and was leaving he was outside waitin' on a ride and it's pissin' down rain so i ask him if he wants to vape a bowl. He tells me sure and he even has his Dugout with him stuffed full, so once we sit in the car he pulls out his dugout and I just happened this day to bring along lo and behold my WISPR instead of my DV or palm.

Ended up no-one had shown him how to use it. I filled it with his herb and handed it to him and he started it up waited 10 seconds and started hitting it while it was still heating and hit it hard, like he was trying to smoke down half a joint in a single hit kind of hard.
Taught him not to hit it when it was heating and to take smaller hits also how to sip on it after a bit so you don't cough. He was blitzed off one bowl of his own bud shared between us in a 15 minute session and was kind of dumbfounded and amazed, told me he'd find his and damn sure start using it now.

Don't hit an iolite product while it's heating it'll almost always taste like butane and have difficulty reaching vaping temps and working properly.

:tup: good things even happen when you visit the vampires.
 
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Abysmal Vapor

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A friend pulled the trigger on this offer .I will have a chance to try it ,i didn't like the original iolite.. the vapor didn't taste great.. i hope it is better with the wispr
 

Ratm22

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Thanks for the heads up on that deal @Abysmal Vapor ! The wispr does taste better than the original iolite, but butane powered vapes are not necessarily known for their flavor.

My first Wispr I purchased retail for $350. I had to send it back twice for issues, but I still think it was worth every penny.
For 99 bucks I almost want to 2 back ups. Comes with a free can of butane too.

I hope its the 2.0, unless they are just trying to get rid of old stock.
 
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