Help me decide between Vapor Brothers or Da Buddha

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RUDE BOY

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@MysticVaper I have an underdog not an e-nano a friend has a vapor bros and I can say there is no way his VB can vape as tiny a load with the same effects. I do not see how an e-nano bowl which is smaller then an UD bowl wouldn't do the same. The vapor bros still doesn't beat the three vapes in my signature as far as the group of people I'm around.

That's just my experience, I do actually like the VB with the ceramic wand quite a bit more then the DB/SSV/LSV but I've never owned any of them.
 

hoptimum

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I've had an easy vape machine for several years. It has worked extremely well from day one. I do want to buy a vapor brothers unit soon (mainly due to the extremely safe ceramic coil). As far as all the other vapes out there? Dont waste your time/money/energy, they are all a piece of crap.

I owned a DBV for a while and ended up selling it because of what a piece of crap it was compared to my EasyVape unit. Yes, no comparison. I know this may sound weird cuz all the newbies/merchants/marketers make such a hype about DBV. But trust me, from someone with long term experience with both machines. It is the truth. I speak simply. I have no economic associations with any vaporizer out there.

Log-vapes are supposed to be one of the most efficient vapes. I've owned an e-nano for about 3 months. This is suppossed to be one of the best ones out there because it has variable temperature built in. I believe after 3 months of daily use 5 times a day I have completed my learning curve with it. Let me tell you: It is not even as efficient as my Easy vape! yes you heard right.

The EasyVape/Vaporbrothers machines have a much more accurate temp control allowing you to vape your material much more slowly and producing longer more efficient draws. The diameter of the chamber where you put your material is larger. This allows for more surface exposure to hot-air-flow. Material in chamber is held in place by two ceramic screens, this eliminates the necessity of using any steel screens at all.

As far as the "angle-problem" on VB/EV trust me that is plain ignorance. Those who speak about such "problem" are either in complete ignorance of the existence of the VB Ceramic wand
whip with dual ceramic screens or their are deliberately ignoring its outstanding excellence due to commercial interests.

Bottom line: I get much better medical properties in my vapor from 0.015 gr of material on my EasyVape than I do from 0.045 on my enano (even when split into three 0.015 sessions at once) You heard it right. Now deal with it. Your either have zero valuable experience with easyvape/vaporbrothers machines or your profiting from the advertising of these other machines.

Anyone with intelligence long-term experience using VB or EV dare contradict me with facts? Please be my guest.


I can only say that none of your comments are comsistent with my experience, and I am far from a newbie. Your claims are so far off base that discounting them one by one would be tedious and not worth the effort.
 
Since you have a quest for knowledge, a reading and memorizing of our rules might be a good idea. Especially the "Be Nice" section which you have stomped on pretty thoroughly.
@MysticVaper I have an underdog not an e-nano a friend has a vapor bros and I can say there is no way his VB can vape as tiny a load with the same effects. I do not see how an e-nano bowl which is smaller then an UD bowl wouldn't do the same. The vapor bros still doesn't beat the three vapes in my signature as far as the group of people I'm around.

Perhaps you hit the nail on the head. My entire point is that the larger diameter the chamber has the better efficiency. Perhaps this explains why your UD has a larger bowl than the nano and you love your UD but I don't my nano. DBV, SSV, LSV same problem, diameter on wand too narrow. Not enough surface of the material exposed to hot air during inhalation.

In any case, I very much appreciate your honest opinion. I do respect preferences.
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I can only say that none of your comments are comsistent with my experience, and I am far from a newbie. Your claims are so far off base that discounting them one by one would be tedious and not worth the effort.

Lmao!!! Well that's helpful!!

Dude! don't waste our readers time if you're not going to write anything that has any chance of helping anyone. Just for ego-boost is that why you posted your reply on here? I was actually hoping someone might contradict my stated facts with more convincing facts, and perhaps I might learn a thing or two. :(

I guess I forgot to mention a flexible, experimental, creative mind is also needed along with long term experience, in order to qualify for the position of responding to my post. Funny thing is I actually start my sessions at 250 degrees farenheit. I know all the ignorant narrow idiots laugh at this because they think it imposible for all active vapors to be vaporized at that temp. What they fail to realize is that the temperature displayed on the EV unit is only the coil temperature not the temperature of the material as hot air flows through it.

The temperature of the actual material is measured more by the rate of speed with which you draw on the whip. (Ironically this very superb ability of the EV actually accounts for the "temperature inconsistencies" that the narrow ignorants often complain about.) I actually finish my session at about 265 farenheit. By this point I actually vaporize nearly all the active elements to the point where I get a much better vaporization of terpenes and cbd's than the DBV or enano are even capable of in my experience. Therefore I end up with all the effects of a fuller-range of the active healing compounds vaporized from my material. My pooh is dark brown and pulverized at the end of the session, but not a corner combusted. I feel like I combusted 1.5 grams on a bong, after vaping 0.025 grams on my EV.
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Absolute bottom line for me is, I get a better body high with 0.025 grams of material with the EV, than you narrow-minded idiots probably get if you vaped 1 full gram at one sitting with one of those junkie machines and their yellow-brown poo-pers.

P.S. Non-qualifying applicants don't bother replying... I will not reply again to you. I would love it if any of the fanatic, blind defenders would actually sit down with an EV machine with upgraded dual screen ceramic wand and replicate my instructions above, then come and contradict me with real facts. Let's see if you still consider de EV a piece of crap and why after you follow my instructions precisely. Other wise stop your blah, blah! Unfortunately of course I don't have much hope that a narrow would ever do that. They seem to have a knack for not learning much from their massive experience.

J/K Andy is such a nice guy, I'll actually write to him and ask him for a refund and I'm like 99% sure he'll work with me on that. Trust me I'm not bashing anyone specific product or company. I understand these are prolly high-quality built products which work great for like 90 % of people, just not for me. Hahahaha I'm not delusional i realize prolly 95% of you veterans here on FC will strongly disagree with me whether or not you reply here. (lol perhaps the same 95% on FC that own these machines? lol) I ultimately don't mind sharing my honest experience when I believe it has a possiblity of benefiting other patients with my challenges/preferences/temperament even if anything I write might have helped just one patient a bit. (True compassion, which too many doctors/slaughterers/dispensary-managers/forum-posters/marketers should learn more about.)

Ugh! so many people giving out misinformation... either due to ignorance or commercial/financial interest. That my friend is the epidemic of media, politicians and vaporizer reviewers now a days.

I ultimately love to learn from other people's feedback out there when they speak their truth, hell! maybe it's the cheap metallic fumes off the EV cheap chinese coil that are making me sooo high. lol Blessings vapers!

Any female stoners on here?! :love:
 
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MysticVaper,

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
I guess I forgot to mention a flexible, experimental, creative mind is also needed along with long term experience, in order to qualify for the position of responding to my post. Funny thing is I actually start my sessions at 250 degrees farenheit. I know all the ignorant narrow idiots laugh at this because they think it imposible for all active vapors to be vaporized at that temp. What they fail to realize is that the temperature displayed on the EV unit is only the coil temperature not the temperature of the material as hot air flows through it.

The temperature of the actual material is measured more by the rate of speed with which you draw on the whip. (Ironically this very superb ability of the EV actually accounts for the "temperature inconsistencies" that the narrow ignorants often complain about.) I actually finish my session at about 265 farenheit.


Funny thing is you trust the temp display on your Easy Vape. You are not vaping at those temps it will not work. I've used a vaporite box that burned your herb at 240F and that's not possible in the real world because you do NEED temps in the 450s to actually do that. Everyone I've ever talked to says the temperature displays mean very little in the cheaper box vapes. The Heater core would have to be HOTTER then the bowl/herb temps to work.

The wand/bowl on my friends Vapor Bros isn't bigger/wider then his DB wand/ bowl ??
 

GreenDragon

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...in order to qualify for the position of responding to my post.
...than you narrow-minded idiots...
P.S. Non-qualifying applicants don't bother replying... I will not reply again to you.
Any female stoners on here?! :love:

DOOOD!
I enjoyed the hell out of your post. It is rare to read a post this entertaining. Thank you.
You obviously do not suffer from low self-esteem.
And... a ladies man too. Nice.

P.S. - I am a non-qualifying applicant.
 

flotntoke

thoroughly vaped
Don't want to call anyone's judgement into question, but anyone reading this long dead and recently re-vitalized thread should certainly do more reading on FC.

I used a VaporWarez daily for a year and occasionally for a few more. It's still out there going from friend to friend to try get them started with vaping. My offer to them is - use it until you want one of your own, or stop using it enough to know you aren't interested in vaping. It's with its 6th temporary owner over past 3-4 years. It ain't the best at efficiency, but it works and gives someone a good idea of what vaping is all about. Plus, it seems to be pretty dependable and long lasting.

VaporWarez was a decent VB clone. EasyVape is also a knockoff of VB, but reportedly of lesser quality. Honestly have never used one myself due to reviews here and elsewhere. Didn't see the need to risk going that far away from the original, and many reviews comparing box vapes made me feel like I was better off spending a few more $$ to get the better vape. Read around, @MysticVaper may have no problems with his - but seems that may be the minority. For me, even the VW was my least informed, and IMO "worst" vape purchase. Live and learn, especially with the help of the FC community!

Compared to the nano? Not even close. The nano is a giant killer that is so efficient it gets me there and further than I need to be with less than half of what it takes just to have the VW work properly. The physics won't even let such a small load sit in the heat path of a box vape unless it is sitting up on it's short end (with a second screen to keep material from falling into the heater) or hanging on a wall with heat port facing down. Gravity would make a small load fall to the bottom of the wand - not across the screen as is necessary for optimal vaporizing.

Again.... don't want to call anyone out, but seems odd someone would own an e-nano for 3 months and has now ridded themselves of it, when it was pretty exclusive to FC until recently mentioned at GC, and that previous owner has only been an FC member for 2 months. Even more odd that they wouldn't have a single post in the nano thread (SEE EDIT BELOW). But hey, not like someone couldn't lurk on here and go the website to buy one without being a member. Just strange IMO. I also get a little suspicious when the same post is placed on GC on a few different threads at the same time. GC is well known as a good place to find trolls if you're looking for them.

Don't want to tell anyone what to do, or question the truth of any user's statements - but if it were my money going to a new vape my critical thinking would cause me to throw this review out as an anomaly (at least!). Add to this the fact that I've seen spammers hawking the exact same vape (the first a few years ago), and many less than positive comments about it and I'd run like Hell!

But if you want a CHEAP vape (as in cheap price and cheap quality combined) have at it. They can be had on eBay for less than $50. Then again.... a light bulb and butane lighter can be had for less than $5!


EDIT: Sorry... looked under wrong username - sorry @MysticVapor! User @MysticVaper has a few posts in nano thread. Guess my search skills also suffer while vaked! Last post on March 22nd was another of joy about the nano. http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/e-nano-from-epicvape.7844/page-176#post-567068

Still confused about the 3 months.... On my calendar that's about 6 weeks. Eh, what good are facts anyway!
 
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vaporbrothers

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I'm wondering what I'm allowed to say in a thread like this except "hello from a company that designs and builds in the USA..." and has a very nice warranty, have a good day. The clones might look like us and that's great. As the original inventor of this 15 year old style, we know there are features and tricks in our process that were not noticed or copied by the fine gentlemen from overseas, or those earlier knockoffs stateside. The hits are smooth and taste perfect... the temperature is stable. New and fully warranted hands free units start at $150, so it doesn't really cost more than anything, unless you're willing to take some lead or plastic into your system. If there's a clone or "similar" unit I can say a good thing about, I recognize Silver Surfer because they're true innovators on top of this idea. Sorry, never evaluated Da Buddha, but it's from the same people, so that should lend some credence. Please feel free to message me or visit the vb vaporizer thread for your nitty gritty questions- we love to explain it through and through. <3
 
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Compared to the nano? Not even close. The nano is a giant killer that is so efficient it gets me there and further than I need to be with less than half of what it takes just to have the VW work properly. The physics won't even let such a small load sit in the heat path of a box vape unless it is sitting up on it's short end (with a second screen to keep material from falling into the heater) or hanging on a wall with heat port facing down. Gravity would make a small load fall to the bottom of the wand - not across the screen as is necessary for optimal vaporizing.

EDIT: Sorry... looked under wrong username - sorry @MysticVapor! User @MysticVaper has a few posts in nano thread. Guess my search skills also suffer while vaked! Last post on March 22nd was another of joy about the nano. http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/e-nano-from-epicvape.7844/page-176#post-567068

Still confused about the 3 months.... On my calendar that's about 6 weeks. Eh, what good are facts anyway!
Hey man,

You're right. It wasnt 3 months, I obviously miscalculated a little in the heat of making my points. I believed I clarified earlier on in a post that my final conclusion is that the nano is a great vape. I personally envisioned something different that I think would work just a little better.

Hence, I ended up purchasing the Aromed 4.0 for $385. Received delivery about 2 weeks ago and been enjoying the heck out of it while serving my 2-week suspension on this forum. ;) Its engineering is exactly what I had in mind. It boasts a 1-inch diameter heating chamber. Heat source is a 50 watt halogen bulb which can be replaced at a $5 cost and lasts 1000 hours. Water filter built in for better taste. Highly-precise computerized temperature control. Truly all-glass air path with the exception of the 1-inch ss screen. This gives me two or three decent draws at a temperature of 450 f with barely a taste of popcorn even less combustion. This is of course after the kinda-fat 10 draws at lower temperatures. :p 0.2 grams gets me as medicated as I would ever dream to be. Bringing down my medication cost to about $250 a month versus $400 with previous vapes.

As to the ignorant who will laugh at my post, thinking that their herbalizer is better compared to my Aromed, I have prepared a speech in advance so as to hopefully prevent any ignorant or stupid responses to my post:

I know exactly what your criticism of the Aromed is going to be when compared to the herbalizer.
50 watt bulb on aro vs. 300 watt bulb on herba. I actually did my research about this before purchasing the aromed, as I was absolutely willing to pay $726 for the best vape out there. Turns out according to what i read, even though the light bulb on the herbalizer has a 300 watt resistance it never fires at anywhere near that power. The person (I will have to get back to you on references) writing the article, claims that the herbalizer fires at around 30 watts even at maximum temperatures. Those who understand the mathematical
equations of ohms and watts will understand this is a perfectly logical possiblity. I dont know how many watts the aromed fires while at top temperatures, but I can see that it could perfectly well function at 30W explaining why it is able to go from 378f to 405f in about 3 seconds. If anyone has any fact-based information regarding this issue, and can provide convincing-evidence to contradict any of my above-claims, I will be the first one to express my gratitude to you, for sharing valuable information with us.

This research came about as a result of a conversation I had with a sales-rep over at toronto vaporizers. He explained to me that they had stopped carrying the herbalizer several months ago. Their reason was that it did not meet the quality standards that their company (toronto vapes) required in order to continue selling it. I don't know whether or not the clerk's claim is correct, but this is what inspired me to research the issue further.

Your next criticism on the aromed would be that it takes 2 minutes to heat up to vaping-temperature when you first turn it on (I know the herbalizer is a lot faster). Here's the extent of my experience on that issue:

I don't mind waiting literally 2 minutes just at the beginning of session. I do like that the halogen bulb on my aro sits on top of the material as opposed to the bulb on the herbalizer which sits underneath the material. I can quicklly and easily remove the heater away from my material during breaks without having to worry about the fact that both heat and vapor rise by natural laws of physics, making it more likely that I might waste a bit of vapor on the herbalizer. I take at least 4-6 delicious draws at 378f, 3-4 at 410f and 2-3 at 450f.

My gut tells me I gotta be inhaling at least 89% of active compounds on my 0.2 gr of medicine. :tup: This saves me money (main reason why I would invest more than $200 on any vaporizer). The aromed doesn't even work well if you load it with more than 0.2 gr at a time. For me, 0.2 gr of finely ground medicine sitting on top of a ss screen 1-inch in diameter, with a computer-controlled halogen light-bulb to heat it up, is about as close to medication-nirvana as I'm ever gonna get. :love:

I guess I joined the club of yellow-brown vape-pooers and it feels great, I apologize for my past ignorant claims.

Sadly, :cry: I must report I was a bit dissapointed at the epic-vape customer service. I know their website doesn't work well sometimes but I did write to Andy's email directly just about 2-weeks ago asking for a refund and explaining my dissatisfaction with nano, and surprisingly to me, I have yet to receive his response to my customer service request 2-weeks ago. I had anticipated at least a helpful communicative response from them, if nothing else. :doh:

I know many of you may perceive me as bashing on companies or specific products. And this might bother you. This could not be further from my truth. Sadly I have yet to receive any privilege or financial gains from any of my posts. :hmm: I do however have a set strong intention to share information/experience and receive feed-back in the most time-efficient fashion. I also use my posts to do a kind of review of all the vapes that I purchase. Yes I can be a very harsh critic and expect utmost excellency in customer service. I'm almost sure most vapers would understand why I would be upset if I spend $250 on a vaporizer and receive no customer service response. Funny paradox is, that precisely because I dont receive any financial gain from the vape-industry, and my budget is tight due to my un-employment, I get so upset if I dont receive top-quality and service from vaporizer purchases.

I actually sold the nano to my bro who happily and quickly jumped on it at a family discount. I think it's a great fit for him since his budget is not as tight as mine and it helped him quit combusting. :clap:

If I upset anyone's financial interests with my posts, maybe one of you rich-internet-marketing-moguls can pay a buck or two to hire un-employed potential forum writers to promote your products. If posts really do have any significant power over your business, which I doubt. :tinfoil:

Meanwhile I'll pray that the world economy improves so I may improve my finances and maybe then I won't feel like I have to be so unresonably critical of vaporizer manufcaturers/promoters.

Peace.:myday:
 
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