Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

I seem to always have a tiny bit of water in that bottom chamber and I don't have a hydrafoot.

My EVO is running without issues.

Save the hydrafeet for holding your VXN's

It was all fun and games until we found out this:

macbill said:

Be Careful with removing your HT from the foot. Breakage can occur. I merely lifted this piece off the hydra foot, and it broke.

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I always lean my hydratube against a cushion now...

.......picked-up a essential oil side car hydratube...to see if there was any discernible difference to my existing hydra-water tools for concentrate use....that little things kicks and I think it's the best way to use concentrates on the evo...so fuckin smooth...my flower intake has really been dramtically reduced...

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I load mine just like in the video.

Don't mind me yelling at my gf for not being close enough lol

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Dude that was a major fat piece of conc. Only 1 hit, so I assume that hit was packed and you got heavily medicated?

The main diffs I'm seeing w/ VXN vs. Hexi's Olde Timey Cotton method

• HOTC method = like flowers, slower, big clouds, 3-5 minutes to empty a ELB/cotton
  
• VXN = 1 and done. 1 hit, if you miss it you lose
• HOTC = building effects
• VXN = instant
• HOTC = consistent white walls, even distribution
• VXN = starter hit, good hit, residual (almost combustion burn off flavor)
• HOTC = amount of cotton and placement of cotton varies per concentrate
• VXN = drop and vape
• HOTC = lots of experience means I've pretty much mastered the method, always getting good hits, always knowing how much cotton per type, how loose/tight to pack
• VXN = re-learning per concentrate. VXN also highlights the impurities at the end, the burn off section really shows you what that other 35% of your conc. is... gunk.
• HOTC - only works on turbo mode, needs 15 minute warm up
• VXN = works on 10am to 12pm on the dial. Lately I've been 10:30 and no higher.

While the HOTC method for me is tried and true and gets consistently great results, I will admit that I've been 95% VXN since I got my shipment. There is just something fun and quick about it. I had a few combustion issues early on, and they tasted nasty, overall I've been dialing it down and just avoiding the burn off.

The challenge is when to keep pulling and when to recognize you are in burn-off mode and one more sip will be nasty.

HOTC has no burn off since it's all in the ELB, never gets hot enough

I was wintering in Palm Springs when I got my Indiegogo EVO. I got a can cozy and just cut it with some kitchen shears. I placed it over the wristbands. It really helps.

In case anyone missed it, intl update. not much of one but hey.

"Here is quick update from our engineering team. Since our last update, we have been able to go through 2 additional revisions to eliminate the overheating issue. Our latest firmware update was running smoothly across the variable voltage/frequencies but in one instance we caught it overheating. Our engineering team has identified that variable and made the appropriate tweak and we will continue testing it.

While I would like to give you a concrete date on when the testing will be completed, the engineering team wanted to do some more testing to ensure that the solution we have is a long term one. We are working our fastest to resolve this issue while making sure that we are attentive to all details. As always, if you guys do not want to wait and would like a refund, please just let me know. Otherwise, based on the extra amount of time spent on testing, we are sure that once we get approval, our international customers will be our happiest customers."

Today, I've failed to switch off the EVO properly - didn't push enough and the switch went back on - it made the unit go into red light glitch instantly.
There is a gray area in the middle of the power switch. The faster I flip the switch on, the less probability of it starting straight into some glitch mode or error message.
As it goes faster through the gray area and spends less time in there.
If I purposely hold the switch in the middle of the on/off I can hear the switch sparking and the unit goes into error/glitch.
I think eliminating this gray area could also help make these unit less prone to errors.

most/all switches do that I'm pretty sure. firmware could fix the units response to it.

Seek said:

Today, I've failed to switch off the EVO properly - didn't push enough and the switch went back on - it made the unit go into red light glitch instantly.
There is a gray area in the middle of the power switch. The faster I flip the switch on, the less probability of it starting straight into some glitch mode or error message.
As it goes faster through the gray area and spends less time in there.
If I purposely hold the switch in the middle of the on/off I can hear the switch sparking and the unit goes into error/glitch.
I think eliminating this gray area could also help make these unit less prone to errors.

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Holding a single pole switch in between open and closed is most likely going to cause arcing within the switch housing. The crackling you're hearing is electricity jumping around within the housing. Switches are made to be in the open/off position or closed/on position, not in between. I would suggest not doing that on purpose.

Yes I know I've been hearing jumping electricity and that's bad. I've only done it once on testing purpose to see if it does it - to confirm it does.
Normally I am flipping it as fast as possible.

Shields up - I am sorry to want to say this, but I have not been on the boards much lately due to life being busy, but I got all caught up last night on this thread. It is interesting because as I sat and read, I realized the minutia that is getting discussed in here to the point that it is almost unfair to VXL - who maintain an amazing presence in here.

There is a lot of great info in this thread. There are a lot of great people sharing a lot of good stuff, but there are two things that have been getting to me of late, things that have popped up in my own head that I think bear mention that we can/should(?) all relax on a bit:

• mentions of how dangerous things are... I have seen numerous comments talking about how hot the top of the unit gets, how hot the nail is after use and the fact that these things are DANGEROUS!

The EVO is a heater used to bring an area inside of an enclosure up to high and specific temperatures. Heat rises. Allowing the unit to vent from the top is essentially the only solution there is, and the top of the enclosure is going to get hot. We, as users of this device need to just accept the fact that there is an area that is hot to the touch but is not going to actually burn you. Let your body explain that you do not touch there for long. Maybe there should be a little flier in the box explaining this, but to my mind we are adults if we are using this device and common sense needs to be allowed to shine. If you are too blasted to remember that you avoid the top, put it down for a while...

The nail is going to be hot. That is the nature of the beast. Examine the alternative approaches (eNail or torch and nail, right?) and then ask yourself again how dangerous this thing is. Seriously. If one of the two alternatives deals with a glowing bit if metal and the VXN is able to be carefully handled right after it has finished its cleaning cycle, you are using the safer of the two options. Complaints on this come of as nothing but noise. Whiny noise.

• "Suggestions" as to how VXH should handle things

To my mind, this has to be one of the more frustrating things that happen in here. If you have a suggestion for an improvement in process or equipment, PM or email that shit. Posting things publicly brings in the potential for piling on and it creates an unnecessary headache for the company you are (presumably) trying to help. Make it private and flesh out your idea. Maybe there are aspects that you have not thought through and a quick discussion illuminates that. None or all of us may be qualified to design anything. None or all of us are customer service reps. None or all of us are running a company that is providing a premium device to an audience that examines each and every detail ad nauseum. The point here is that qualifications are unknown and making it private allows ideas to actually grow and takes a huge, unneeded amount of pressure off of VXH.

How VXL does things is their business. We are voluntary customers. Not one of us was forced into having this device in our homes.

Let's let them run their show.

I understand that we have dropped a lot of loot to get this thing, but I also think that some people's expectations/complaints are very unreasonable.

/rant

I also have had no issues with my unit. Some confusion early on, but private discussions completely erased that. I have been a happy owner since before Thanksgiving...

I've had my unit for two months now and could not be happier with it, the Hydrotube, the Hydrofoot, etc.

Everything has been excellent including build quality, excellent presence by the manufacturer in this forum (which I wouldn't even expect), excellent visibility into best uses, etc.

Love it much better than my herbalaire, MFLB, and Solo!

..... excellent points mooney....people are very "problematic"....my observation has been that most of this phenomena occurs when there's an influx of "newbies"....(the international customers..)...and to a certain extent their behavior can be explained by a amount of growing/learning pains...this coupled with the anonymity the internet provides can create the environment you depicted...and many older/experienced posters "shy away" as they are not interested in that direction...seibo has demonstrated remarkeable patience and committment (and I told him so when I met him) perhaps because first and foremost he's doing something he really loves...there is value, peridically, in hearing voices like yours so he continues to understand that the vast majority aprreciate his works.
...no I've never had any issues with my unit....I do not believe a poll is needed...

@macbill -- I did that with a can cozy and found that the robot fart smell got more intense to the point where I didn't want to use it. Check for that to see if you might be overheating the unit.

So I accidentally left the VXN in my Evo after a session. Before it auto-shut off, the heat burned off all the residue from the bottom of the VXN way better than my Iso half-soak. I assume this was already known and I missed it?

It is known, but I bet it felt like a discovery and a half. I have had those moments where you wonder how noone has discovered such a bag of awesome to discover that they have. I think those moments are great.

To the point, @Enchantre has a video that she demonstrates that with a small bit of shatter, the residue is gone by the time the EVO returns to green after she rips it.

In fact:

Enchantre said:

Less is way, way more.

Here are my findings, so far:

I'm using, for a single dab in the VXN, just about a crumb of shatter/crumble (either one - a bit less shatter than crumble, per se). About a fourth, maybe, of what I would use for a dab on the oil rig (which is about half a "normal" dab size, from what I see in person and on YouTube)...
we tried to weigh one, a couple of different ways, and the closest we could get was about 0.03 g (excellent scale from amazon).
The EVO is set to Noon. I have not detected any advantage, yet, in going lower, and going higher seems less desirable to me at this time.
Try not to drop the VXN into the bamboo. I am catching myself.
It starts vaporizing so quickly, that I don't really need to pre-clear the tube.
I can almost finish the vapor cloud... the rest burns off nicely; just about when the bamboo goes green again, at full max, the residue is gone.

I've got a video, that pretty much sucks. I'll be back soon to post it. Really.

Oh, hey... and the effects I'm getting from this tiny crumb of concentrate, at a lower temp, is really, really deep.

Video:

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Is there any truth to the rumored new design

Cloud EVO + on the way?

wolf torn said:

Is there any truth to the rumored new design

Cloud EVO + on the way?

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Where did this rumor come from? I've heard whispers of a portable unit, haven't heard anything about an EVO +.

.....have to agree...never heard it spoken on this thread...

Only heard whispers of a portable a year + from now...

Yeah...I haven't heard anything about an EVO +. Only a portable that's at least a year away.

Having an EVO or even a cloud makes finding a portable a tough choice. Would be nice to find something that could cross platform to HT's.

Hioctane said:

Having an EVO or even a cloud makes finding a portable a tough choice. Would be nice to find something that could cross platform to HT's.

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The solo with a gong has the same form as a cloud. Only thing to take into consideration is draw resistance and volume of the piece. I enjoy it with my d020 and vapor blunt chandelier perc (similar to vapexhale glass)

Had more of a pocket/travel portable in mind.

Hioctane said:

Had more of a pocket/travel portable in mind.

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Thought you wanted something that pairs well with a HT? HT are not typically pocket friendly