Arizer Solo

OF

Well-Known Member
Been off FC for a while, good to see this thread going strong......
But have broken all stock stems and 2 pvhes.....Solo sucks , only in this department,,yeah all this is because of Solo...I really have to be careful, otherwise wife is gonna kill me ..freaking 50$$ for 1 pvhes , shipped to India..haha she is happy coz they always outta stock

Welcome back. We've been busy, but not into too much mischief. Now that you're back maybe we can work on that?

Anyway, bummer you're having glass issues. Blocking all Ataxian's posts might help?

Otherwise, sounds like it's time to get one of Ed's creations for your more 'clumsy' hours?

Regards,

OF
 

abhishek

Well-Known Member
Welcome back. We've been busy, but not into too much mischief. Now that you're back maybe we can work on that?

Anyway, bummer you're having glass issues. Blocking all Ataxian's posts might help?

Otherwise, sounds like it's time to get one of Ed's creations for your more 'clumsy' hours?

Regards,

OF

Yeah I have been thinking to order one of ed's stem, but the taste from glass is irresistible.... Haven't heard too many things bout wood stems though, as far as taste is concerned...

Also now , after breaking at least 7 stems(4 stock , came with solo,2 pvhes and 1 PV gong) I am just to scared to use my F bomb :shrug:
 

rekrab

Well-Known Member
id say you should just get a wood one to have ya know, just in case. the taste is interesting, dont get me wrong i will always choose glass first however the wood adds a new twist, still tastes great with great flowers. like your sucking on an oak tree infused with weed. ed doesnt disappoint
 

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
I received one of Ed's stems yesterday and have used it twice, I like it a lot. It adds a faint nutty woody taste, But nothing much to me.

I did just stuff a bud in mine not ground herbs though and the big difference I've seen so far over the glass is that I had a longer session with the wood stem to get pretty much the same results as the stock stems.

More testing to follow today. :peace:
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
mine unit seems to always runn really hot on the outside and drains battery fast with the ed stem. do you find similar?
We've talked about this one a bit already, though not addressing this question specifically. It's most likely the fact that Ed's stems use metal for the stem, whereas the normal stems use glass. Glass will heat up faster and cool down faster, metal bushings like Ed's will need a bit more to "warm up" though I haven't heard much about noticeable battery life :shrug:
 

as

Well-Known Member
Yes I also notice less battery life with @Ed's TnT stem
I also find if I put the stem in before the solo has reached 7 (even if its at 6) it will never reach 7
Ed recommends removing the stem between draws but I don't do this as I only use solo out and about solo removing the stem would kill stealth off using eds satem
 

OF

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mine unit seems to always runn really hot on the outside and drains battery fast with the ed stem. do you find similar?


It's most likely the fact that Ed's stems use metal for the stem, whereas the normal stems use glass. Glass will heat up faster and cool down faster, metal bushings like Ed's will need a bit more to "warm up" though I haven't heard much about noticeable battery life :shrug:

Good thoughts (and observation). One big difference between metal and glass would be conduction. Glass is not good at it (a problem we see in Ascent), but metal is. This means, I think, heat is more easily drawn out of the oven area (like leaving a spoon in a coffee cup to speed cooling), calling for more 'make up power' from the battery?

Yes I also notice less battery life with @Ed's TnT stem
I also find if I put the stem in before the solo has reached 7 (even if its at 6) it will never reach 7
Ed recommends removing the stem between draws but I don't do this as I only use solo out and about solo removing the stem would kill stealth off using eds satem

Yet more indications.......

OF
 

spacelooper

Well-Known Member
Argh... Am in Asheville NC for a music festival and my trusty Solo crapped out on me the morning of the day I was playing...smile....man!! It worked fine the night before then put it on the charger and now won't charge. The only replacement vape I could get here was a Pax....sigh. 100 more than the solo and a big disappointment in compariso, to me anyway. I am certain that I need to "figure out" the pax... But to me it just seems like an overpriced failure. All the mods, lubricants etc...It's like you have to take a class and by a prep kit just to use it....whatever...I will buy a new solo and replacement battery for my old Solo when I get back to Nashville....
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Argh... Am in Asheville NC for a music festival and my trusty Solo crapped out on me the morning of the day I was playing...smile....man!! It worked fine the night before then put it on the charger and now won't charge. The only replacement vape I could get here was a Pax....sigh. 100 more than the solo and a big disappointment in compariso, to me anyway. I am certain that I need to "figure out" the pax... But to me it just seems like an overpriced failure. All the mods, lubricants etc...It's like you have to take a class and by a prep kit just to use it....whatever...I will buy a new solo and replacement battery for my old Solo when I get back to Nashville....
Try a different charger! Might solve the problem and be much cheaper than buying a whole new setup...
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Ive never noticed my battery going down when I use a wood stem. I will have to pay attention. I wouldn't care anyway if it did.
I don't get the heavy clouds with the wood, but I get just as medicated and it takes longer to finish the bowl, so that's a good thing. With the herb I have now, I get 2 1/2 12 min sessions with an Ed stem. I don't have large lung capacity so others may get different. It really depends on the herb and how hard you draw.:leaf:

I do get heavy clouds with the Eds Ascent stems. Could it have something to do with the metal at the bowl area? The Ascent stem doesnt have that it's all wood.

I really like the wood stems, they are very durable and adds to the beauty of the unit. Plus it gives the vapor a really good taste.

Cheaper to buy an Ed's stem verses buying a whole new unit.
 
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OF

Well-Known Member
Argh... Am in Asheville NC for a music festival and my trusty Solo crapped out on me the morning of the day I was playing...smile....man!! It worked fine the night before then put it on the charger and now won't charge.


Try a different charger! Might solve the problem and be much cheaper than buying a whole new setup...

Agreed. I assume this is the new version? It should be just fine with the rash of slightly undervoltage chargers (the 'light show' units) since the new ones don't have the 'no man's land' between PA and charging?

However, finding a Solo charger in the field is probably even harder than finding another Solo for sale? Anyway, it's a bummer, hopefully you'll soon be home and can sort it all out.

OF
 

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
However, finding a Solo charger in the field is probably even harder than finding another Solo for sale? Anyway, it's a bummer, hopefully you'll soon be home and can sort it all out.

OF

We were at two different local head shops this past week. Both had a very small vaporizer section, and NO accessories at all. They did have a TON of different concentrate pens, but no THC Scientific products, or VB, or Dr. Dabber, etc. I knew none of the names. They wanted $325.00 for the only Solo they had. :disgust:

The Solo has become my daily driver for the moment. :)
 

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
My Solo I use as a desk top. It's been my daily driver, that's why I have 2. You always need a backup Solo. I have other vaporizers I use, but right now the Solo is my favorite.:love:

It's been my friend while doing yard work, along with a wood stem. Also the wood stems stay in place very well, without falling out of the unit.
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Agreed. I assume this is the new version? It should be just fine with the rash of slightly undervoltage chargers (the 'light show' units) since the new ones don't have the 'no man's land' between PA and charging?

However, finding a Solo charger in the field is probably even harder than finding another Solo for sale? Anyway, it's a bummer, hopefully you'll soon be home and can sort it all out.

OF
We were at two different local head shops this past week. Both had a very small vaporizer section, and NO accessories at all. They did have a TON of different concentrate pens, but no THC Scientific products, or VB, or Dr. Dabber, etc. I knew none of the names. They wanted $325.00 for the only Solo they had. :disgust:

The Solo has become my daily driver for the moment. :)
Shouldn't be too hard to find a charger for it, I'm fairly certain shops like Radio Shack and Fry's Electronics (in the west) have a bunch of options. Just gotta match it up with the Solo's charge range.
 

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
Daily driver? Strong words from a Lady that's had it but a single day.........

But you're amongst the faithful, we know what you mean.......all that 'it sure looks sweet looking forward' stuff.

Welcome aboard.

OF

So far, yes. I even put my Herbalaire away in storage for a while because it will be too difficult for me to use after surgery on Friday. Plus, I will be in bed a lot, and can't be tied to a cord. I've actually been using it 3 days. :p
 

spoutti

Well-Known Member
Argh... Am in Asheville NC for a music festival and my trusty Solo crapped out on me the morning of the day I was playing...smile....man!! It worked fine the night before then put it on the charger and now won't charge. The only replacement vape I could get here was a Pax....sigh. 100 more than the solo and a big disappointment in compariso, to me anyway. I am certain that I need to "figure out" the pax... But to me it just seems like an overpriced failure. All the mods, lubricants etc...It's like you have to take a class and by a prep kit just to use it....whatever...I will buy a new solo and replacement battery for my old Solo when I get back to Nashville....
Maybe a different power outlet? When I added my foodsaver pump charging base to the circuit with my solo charger, my solo charger didnt function. Took out the food saver chraging base---> problem solved
 

TboneToker

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I have a question. When is the battery dead? Like is it almost dead when it reaches Idle or is that still like 30% I need to know so I can get the best use out of my batteries!

Thanks FC!
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I have a question. When is the battery dead? Like is it almost dead when it reaches Idle or is that still like 30% I need to know so I can get the best use out of my batteries!

Thanks FC!
Yeah it's almost dead when you turn it on and the "power meter" shows no LED's. You can get a session or two out of it after that but I like to charge her up when I end up on 1 LED. 7-8 sessions per charge is an acceptable battery guess, but it's influenced by your temperature selection. Going up to 2 isn't going to be as hard on the battery as doing all the sessions at 7. A session per light seems to be a decent guess, then you can squeeze an extra one or two out.

Best use of the batteries should be something like this: use it until it's at 1 LED or just 1 session with no LED's, then put it to charge and let her go until all 7 LED's are filled, but the green charging light is still blinking, at which point you disconnect it. Charging all the way up and running the battery down all the way will be harder on the battery than charging almost all the way up and draining most of it.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Shouldn't be too hard to find a charger for it, I'm fairly certain shops like Radio Shack and Fry's Electronics (in the west) have a bunch of options. Just gotta match it up with the Solo's charge range.

True enough, 12 Volts at one Amp is pretty common. However, the connector is not. And more so, the 'official' voltage rating for that connector type (1.7 X 4mm). That connector is 'rated' (at least regulated) 3 to 6 Volts so aside from the factory unit you'll need a 'universal' one. These use interchangable plugs like this:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3780266
Or you can use an adapter to change plug types for the far more common types. Or, if you're brave, pull out the Swiss Army knife, cut the cords, strip them back and twist the wires together and insulate with bandaids from the first aid kit.....

I have a question. When is the battery dead? Like is it almost dead when it reaches Idle or is that still like 30% I need to know so I can get the best use out of my batteries!

Listen to the Q man, the Q man is wise once again. I'd elaborate a bit about what happens when you 'run off the bottom'. Near as I can tell there's no 'soft' shutdown. It doesn't quietly close down like a cell phone or laptop saving the last of the battery, it's waiting on the protection PCB in the battery pack to call it quits. No pre planning, the light all suddenly go out. From 'pretty hard' to 'really tough on' the weaker of the two batteries in the pack bottomed out and called 'uncle' first. The ironic part is this means it's the weaker one that takes most of the beating so the disparity grows each time. Leading, obviously, to a total battery failure that didn't need to happen.

Hitting that wall is a practice to avoid at all costs IMO.

So, 'never more than one more session on no lights' and 'charge to the top, but stop it while the charge light is flashing if you can.

If you can do that last one, you basically get at least another 'free' cycle on the battery, hopefully even more. You give up a session (10%) in the charge (say 7 instead of 8 sessions per charge), but it'll go twice as many cycles (8 sessions against 7 plus 7 for 14 total). Giving up the top 20% of the charge (about the point the top LED lights) roughly doubles that again (to 1200 from 300 originally) so you get (6+6+6+6) 24 sessions against 8.

I think you should find a pattern of usage that suits you, one you enjoy, and also does what you think is reasonable to protect the long term battery life. Replacing it is not the end of the world, and you'll get some warning, but many will hope to avoid it all together. IMO if you want more than 1200 cycles times 6 sessions per cylce) 7,200 sessions you've more than got your money's worth from the original set. Using conservative numbers (1/8 gram loads, two sessions per load) that's 450 grams.....a bit over a pound of bud..... Hey, vaping through a quarter pound on a battery pack (charging to the max) ain't half bad?

But above all you should enjoy it.

Best wishes,

OF
 
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