Arizer Solo
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OF
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So, did I make a mistake getting the PA? I don't understand why Vapor Nation would sell the PA's if they don't work with the Solo's they sell.
Tough question, only you can really say in your case. I has some use now (as a charger), and if you're willing to remove the screws it gives you other options. At one point I considered pulling the battery on my spare and making it a 'PA only' unit but finally decided recharging occasionally was not a big deal. In your condition I probably would not have bought it, but I also doubt I'd return it at this point? Helps not at all I know........
From a completely unknown EBay seller?
I've got a better idea, send me your money. I won't send you a Solo either, but I do promise a nice thank you note.......
I'd seriously consider Randy at PIU. Top rate guy, $160 shipped, proven outstanding Customer Support. I was very happy I had him in my corner when my first (of several) Solo didn't start up right. He had a new one (minus the charger but with stems) in my hands in two days.......several days before I got the original shipped back to him (he provided the paid label IIRC, I reused the packing from the replacement....).
PV is also an excellent source, although I've never tested their CS on a Solo, they sure did right by me with a PVHES that had the etched logo too high up (kept hitting my lips, kinda harshes your mellow you know). An apology, free chips, and replacement were on their way to me the next day. I have a backup now, but have to use it with a piece of Silicone tube on the end in order to avoid the distraction. Hard to fault service like that. IMO worth a few bucks often and 'the entire world' sometimes?
OF
OF
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There's a lot of 'older style' units out there I guess? If I were king I'd do a little better job of explaining things I think, but for whatever reason Arizer is not and the dealers are following suit? We can't even be sure our collective understanding is right. I'm not sure I'd bundle the PA with a new style Solo......but nobody asked.
I would not let it interfere with your enjoyment of the Solo....and that's for sure.
Regards,
OF
PoisonousHydra
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From a seller with exactly ZERO feedback, and an account made a week ago! Buyer (s) beware
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an0maly
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From a seller with exactly ZERO feedback, and an account made a week ago! Buyer (s) beware
Yeah. Keep in mind that Iits Buyer (s) beware for more than just wasting your money. Your lungs will thank you also. Mine were trashed for a couple of weeks because of a fake Micro-G pen. Never again.
Amblacalma
Member
Some weeks ago I bought a Narcotic Bong for use with the Extreme Q and with the Solo.
I used a 14-18 male to male adapter to connect both vaporizers to the Bong without any problem.
And a little video
I used a 14-18 male to male adapter to connect both vaporizers to the Bong without any problem.
And a little video
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
The PA works with the new Solo, but you don't need it. Vickie you have an extra charger, which is a good thing. I did notice that the PA will not charge the Solo to a solid green, where there is no blinking so the charge is full. I accidentally left my new Solo overnight on the PA and this morning the green was still blinking. It should have been solid over that much time. The Solo fully charges from battery level 1 to a full charge in around 2 hours.
When I use my older model Solo with the PA I do notice the battery going down a bit over time. It's slow, but didn't time how slow it is.
I've been enjoying my new Wong made by Ed. It has a good taste. With the wood mouthpieces you may not get big clouds that you can see. But it will get you just as medicated as the glass. I have no problem with less visible clouds long as it gets the job done and it gets the job done.
It is such a beautiful piece it really adds to the beauty of the unit and I don't have to worry about breaking anything. I will probably be using this as a mouthpiece most of the time, but I can use it with my Pinnacle Pro water tool if I wanted. It seem too pretty to do that though.
When I use my older model Solo with the PA I do notice the battery going down a bit over time. It's slow, but didn't time how slow it is.
I've been enjoying my new Wong made by Ed. It has a good taste. With the wood mouthpieces you may not get big clouds that you can see. But it will get you just as medicated as the glass. I have no problem with less visible clouds long as it gets the job done and it gets the job done.
It is such a beautiful piece it really adds to the beauty of the unit and I don't have to worry about breaking anything. I will probably be using this as a mouthpiece most of the time, but I can use it with my Pinnacle Pro water tool if I wanted. It seem too pretty to do that though.
Pickz
Vapes on vapes on vapes!
There are many shady things about that eBay listing. Just look at the Frequently Asked Questions...
They are definitely talking about a different vaporizer. I'd avoid this seller unless there is a proven track record...
Edit: It appears they may be describing an Extreme Q in that part, which I guess isn't as big of a mistake as it is also an Arizer product.
OF
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VERY interesting! This can't happen with the old style since charging is locked out until the applied voltage is over 10.1. The PA is less than that (about 8.5 Volts)......
Chargers of the type used here need "headroom", that is the charger voltage has to be higher than the battery voltage by at least a small amount. It's not possible to measure this with the old style for the above reason. Typical numbers are a fraction of a Volt.
This could, IMO, make the PA the ideal charger as fully charging the battery (as might happen with the 12 Volt stock charger) is not possible.....IMO potentially a very good thing. Using it instead of the normal charger won't help the 'working' of the battery in 'use while charging' but could eliminate the damage done by leaving it plugged in 'full time'.......
Another thing to test. Great tip, thanks CK!
OF
KidFated.
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@CarolKing the stainless steel needs more time to heat up for that conduction effect that I think helps with clouds quite a bit. Jus what I experienced during my short time with the pair.
rekrab
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ya so im pretty sure my buddy just dropped in on this deal after he tried my solo. i told him where to check and the prices and stuff yet he still went for the cheap one from hongkong, i warned him after he sent me a pic the webpage, hopefully hes able to send it back or get a claim
OF
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You're a good friend indeed. I hope he comes to appreciate that. You might ask him "since the Solo is made in Canada, how do you suppose it ends up at cut rate prices half way around the world???".
IMO it's a counterfeit or more likely a straight rip off. There are no legit Dealers in HK, right? For example, EBay seller, MyRubberneck (a US company) says "MyRubberneck is an Authorized Dealer for Arizer. Check with Kevin at Arizer. His email is Service at Arizer dot com" IMO good advice.
http://www.ebay.com/gds/MyRubberneck-is-an-Authorized-Dealer-for-Arizer-/10000000176453114/g.html
OF
Pickz
Vapes on vapes on vapes!
So I reverse image searched those eBay pictures on that listing and found out where they ripped off their ad. It is from a seller called myrubberneck as OF is referring to in the above post.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-A...ZER-BLACK-FULL-WARRANTY-12-GIFT-/261359555339
Edit: OF beat me to it... somewhat
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-A...ZER-BLACK-FULL-WARRANTY-12-GIFT-/261359555339
Edit: OF beat me to it... somewhat
OF
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Good catch.
About time I beat someone at something....even if only by a minute or two.
IMO there's a huge difference in claiming to be a Dealer and actually being one.....even if he does actually sell you a legit unit for that price (highly doubtful....), you're SOL if there's a problem for sure.
"Criminal" is the word that comes to mind, really. Good folks will no doubt waste their hard earned bucks. Sadly, this crook doesn't have to scam too many of us to pay the rent in HK and his risk is really pretty small I think. And I bet he's got other bait in the water?
OF
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
The person who sold you the PA with the LASTEST SOLO is lacking the know how. I went to the local brick and mortar dispensary and the bud tenders knew very little about the products they were selling.I guess I'll just put the PA into storage for now.
Cannabis products are selling like crazy right now with no Ideal how things function.
OF
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At the risk of jinxing it, this is just too good not to share.
Yesterday, after the latest round of 'we need more information on the new Solo....' I decided I was in the best position to do that. So, while not needing another Solo (I have an 'almost new' backup as it is with my much used one on it's second battery) I decided to order a current version from PIU. Now that this 'PA might not fully charge' issue came up, I was glad I did since there is now another IMO important thing to investigate.
So here's the amazing part. Well not amazing maybe, given Randy's history, but I think it is, you decide. I ordered it at 8:48 AM on 5/16 (yesterday). Randy emailed me at 9:50 from another account than the confirmation came from.....one hour and two minutes. Don't know what took so long, musta caught him in the rest room?
He shipped USPS two day for free as is the policy. He's about 80 miles away. IT JUST GOT DELIVERED!!! Exactly 25 hours after I ordered. Flat. Through the PO. As soon as the shock wears off, I'll open it up and start the charging.
I don't for a minute think everyone will get such results, but I don't think I've ever heard of anyone else being so responsive? Randy earns my respect (and money). IMO it's a treat to support such vendors. The cost to do so is very small, really, a few dollars to wait weeks for Massdrop? Pass.
In a tough world I think the guy has precious few peers and not much room for improvement.
OF
Edit: First rumor confirmed, it's now happily charging on my PA (8.8 Volts, for those taking notes....).
Also in the package was a baggie with about 20 fine screens and a very nice 4 piece grinder in a velvet bag I'll no doubt never use......
OF
Yesterday, after the latest round of 'we need more information on the new Solo....' I decided I was in the best position to do that. So, while not needing another Solo (I have an 'almost new' backup as it is with my much used one on it's second battery) I decided to order a current version from PIU. Now that this 'PA might not fully charge' issue came up, I was glad I did since there is now another IMO important thing to investigate.
So here's the amazing part. Well not amazing maybe, given Randy's history, but I think it is, you decide. I ordered it at 8:48 AM on 5/16 (yesterday). Randy emailed me at 9:50 from another account than the confirmation came from.....one hour and two minutes. Don't know what took so long, musta caught him in the rest room?
He shipped USPS two day for free as is the policy. He's about 80 miles away. IT JUST GOT DELIVERED!!! Exactly 25 hours after I ordered. Flat. Through the PO. As soon as the shock wears off, I'll open it up and start the charging.
I don't for a minute think everyone will get such results, but I don't think I've ever heard of anyone else being so responsive? Randy earns my respect (and money). IMO it's a treat to support such vendors. The cost to do so is very small, really, a few dollars to wait weeks for Massdrop? Pass.
In a tough world I think the guy has precious few peers and not much room for improvement.
OF
Edit: First rumor confirmed, it's now happily charging on my PA (8.8 Volts, for those taking notes....).
Also in the package was a baggie with about 20 fine screens and a very nice 4 piece grinder in a velvet bag I'll no doubt never use......
OF
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Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
I sent them an email, asking them about this too. It will be interesting to see what they say.
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Just attempted this myself and confirm your finding. Finished my last 'cordless' session (no PA used; starting battery charge level at 1) and then put my 'new' (charge & heat) Solo on the stock PA (8.68v DC) to charge. Wasn't able to fully charge (green charging LED solid) either. In fact, was only able to charge up to solid yellow LED at level 6 (charge level never got high enough to get level 7 battery charge LED to even flicker; took 1 hour 23 minutes to attain this solid yellow at level 6). I left the Solo charging for another 40 minutes (with no further change in LED level indications) on the stock PA before disconnecting and replacing with the stock 12v DC charger (now at the 2 hour 3 minute mark). Took only 2 minutes 19 seconds more for solid yellow at level 7 (with a flashing green charging LED) before I pulled it off the charger, plugged in the PA, inserted a loaded gong - it's starting to heat.......
Excellent point @OF! Certainly seems like this could provide a 'safety net' against overcharging. And we should get a boatload of extra charge cycles if we pull Solos at level 6 charge level eh?
Regards,
NN
OF
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Gentlemen (and Ladies of course) I think we may have something exciting by the tail here. Vicki hang onto that PA. I'm getting the feeling that a very useful 'invention' (a careful tune on the PA regulator Pipes and Tim sold) might come out of this. I could remove the danger of 'leaving it plugged in all the time' by automatically stalling charging at a high (but safe) level.
Sort of an 'old style PA becomes a new style smart charger'???
Is this a great Forum or what?
Something else to test out when my new Solo is fully charged........
Regards to all.
OF
Can anyone tell me if the seller vapesandparts from eBay is an authorized seller for Solo? They claim they are, but I want to be sure before buying. I hear some new units can have issues after a few months. Trying to play it safe.
Thanks!
Thanks!
OF
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A very prudent concern, IMO. You buy to vape with, not fight over getting serviced. IMO a few buck extra is cheap insurance/peace of mind.
If nobody knows, I suggest an Email to the maker (address above courtesy of MyRubberneck), "Check with Kevin at Arizer. His email is Service at Arizer dot com".
Being Saturday I suspect they won't answer, but I bet they do Monday? Arizer wants to support dealers and get the shysters out of the game I bet.
Good luck with your Solo buy, IMO worth getting right.
OF
Edit: My new style Solo was charging on my PA. I was monitoring the current draw which was slowly falling. At about 300 mA it shut down with all seven LEDs lit (but charge no longer flashing). It was only drawing about 10 mA, I suspect just enough to light the lights? Sure not charging much. Never did go solid.
Putting it on the normal 12 Volt charger got the charging light flashing again. Once it shuts down, I'm going to crack it open and poke around some......starting with what's needed to get the charging to stall out early...... OF
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bellas
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I received my new Black Solo on Friday. I had a warranty return issue. Once I got in touch with them they took care of me toot sweet! I sent back my unit and within just a couple days they got back to me and let me know they were shipping a brand new unit. The next day they emailed me to pass on tracking info. When I received my package I was even more surprised to find TWO new straight stems! Just added as a special bonus. OH, and super frickin" bubble wrapped. Way to go SOLO!