The HI

Dr. Plutonious · May 5, 2014

Might be. The HI at 12 volts runs pretty hot. Without a VVPS, it is a VERY heavy hitting vape, I've milked some big pieces with mine.

If you don't have a vvps, I highly recommend getting one for your HI. It allows you to use lower temps and really get some great taste out of it. My personal favourite setup with my HI is still the stainless steel roasting tube mounted onto a glass stem, running it between 11 and 11.7 volts. Great taste, huge clouds, mad efficiency.

hoptimum · May 5, 2014

Dr. Plutonious said:
Might be. The HI at 12 volts runs pretty hot. Without a VVPS, it is a VERY heavy hitting vape, I've milked some big pieces with mine.

If you don't have a vvps, I highly recommend getting one for your HI. It allows you to use lower temps and really get some great taste out of it. My personal favourite setup with my HI is still the stainless steel roasting tube mounted onto a glass stem, running it between 11 and 11.7 volts. Great taste, huge clouds, mad efficiency.

Wheres the best place to get the VVPS?

Dr. Plutonious · May 5, 2014

@hoptimum I use CentiZen's mini vvps. He's a member on here, big fan of the HI too.

EveryDayAmnesiac · May 5, 2014

The Voltage Keeper is another good VVPS option from an FC member. Really enjoying my mini one.

hoptimum · May 5, 2014

EveryDayAmnesiac said:
The Voltage Keeper is another good VVPS option from an FC member. Really enjoying my mini one.

Great, do you guys have links to those?

grokit · May 5, 2014

^ from what I understand they're both great,
but one is in the us and I think the other is across the pond.

EveryDayAmnesiac · May 5, 2014

hoptimum said:
Great, do you guys have links to those?

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-minivvps-fcs-own-voltage-regulator.12333/

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-voltage-keeper.12090/

Dr. Plutonious · May 5, 2014

Ah, good point made by @grokit . CentiZen is in Canada.

I forget these things sometimes, being a dual citizen

Stu · May 6, 2014

I'm still rocking and rolling without a VVPS. :rockon:

It takes some skill to be sure, but as you learn to control the beast, you can really manufacture some fat fantastically satisfying and tasty rips that make your eyes go

. It's all about technique.

I'm up to the challenge. All you wimps with your VVPS training wheels... hmph. :nope:

I'll probably get a VVPS soon, but I'd like to think that I don't NEED one.

:peace:

Dr. Plutonious · May 6, 2014

I went my first 5 months with the HI and no VVPS!

It indeed certainly is a beast without one.

hoptimum · May 6, 2014

Dr. Plutonious said:
I went my first 5 months with the HI and no VVPS!

It indeed certainly is a beast without one.

Same here, I've been using the HI without a VVPS for several months, with a lot of success, regulating heat by moving the heating element farther away from the screen. I'm curious about lower temps, though, so I went ahead and ordered the VVPS from Voltage Keeper. The HI never ceases to amaze me. It's like a mythical fire-breathing dragon that can never really be tamed, but can be controlled to a certain extent

EveryDayAmnesiac said:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-minivvps-fcs-own-voltage-regulator.12333/

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-voltage-keeper.12090/

thanks, just ordered it from voltage keeper

chrislangley4253 · May 6, 2014

Yeah.. I dunno if I really feel like investing in a new gong/wong/stem (I broke my gong) and a voltage keeper to give the HI a second try. I have no doubts that it would perform well, I just think no matter what I'm probably going to prefer my lotus.

EveryDayAmnesiac · May 6, 2014

For me, the appeal of the VVPS is as much about (hopefully) increasing the longevity of my HI. I love the results in the 11 - 11.25 range, so I don't want my HI to work harder than it has to (or any harder than I'm working :ko:

).

Plus, my HI gets too warm to the touch at 12 volts for my liking.

:peace:

chrislangley4253 · May 6, 2014

Okay, you've got me tempted. I'll sleep on the Voltage Keeper & new adapter

Here is the interesting result of cleanly breaking my 18mm gong. It happens to fit into a 14mm joint. Makes for a pretty cool low-profile look and stuff, but it's a pain to use and gets hot. Still, kinda neat.

hoptimum · May 6, 2014

chrislangley4253 said:
Okay, you've got me tempted. I'll sleep on the Voltage Keeper & new adapter

Here is the interesting result of cleanly breaking my 18mm gong. It happens to fit into a 14mm joint. Makes for a pretty cool low-profile look and stuff, but it's a pain to use and gets hot. Still, kinda neat.

You might be onto something if you could somehow eliminate the heating issue, maybe by using less heat conducting glass in the hook.

chrislangley4253 · May 6, 2014

hoptimum said:
You might be onto something if you could somehow eliminate the heating issue, maybe by using less heat conducting glass in the hook.

Yeah, the glass is a problem with this device. It works with the lotus because it heats up quicker and to a hotter temp than the HI, and then immediately starts cooling off. I think logs are probably much better suited for larger pieces.. but then I see people using them with stems.

I guess it all just depends on the temp of the log and the person. I'm starting to think the VK would probably just frustrate me in the long run.

Vapinghole · May 8, 2014

JedHIs - I'm soon to have another HIsaber crafted by our Master JedHI. Stay tuned, and stay vaped...

slowandsteady · May 11, 2014

Finally got around to pairing my HI with the Voltage Keeper I picked up last week. Wonderful combo in my opinion. Since I have a SS heater cover in my HI, I knew I would be dropping the voltage a bit, but wasn't expecting that I would be using it around 10.15v - 11.5v with most of my usage around 10.40v. It's been great with the flavor, even with the stem I've been using which is the SS tip with silicon tube. Again, I'm very happy with this pairing as it has given me the control I was after. :clap:

EveryDayAmnesiac · May 11, 2014

slowandsteady said:
Finally got around to pairing my HI with the Voltage Keeper I picked up last week. Wonderful combo in my opinion. Since I have a SS heater cover in my HI, I knew I would be dropping the voltage a bit, but wasn't expecting that I would be using it around 10.15v - 11.5v with most of my usage around 10.40v. It's been great with the flavor, even with the stem I've been using which is the SS tip with silicon tube. Again, I'm very happy with this pairing as it has given me the control I was after.

I'm crazy about my Voltage Keeper! That guy is one cool dude and the two products seem made for each other. So nice to be able to take such a relaxed approach, with the low volts and my glass cover version... It's so enjoyable and relaxing... :mmmm:

I was also surprised with the lower voltages I can use, even though it's got the glass heater cover. I can't go quite as low as you and make a cloud, but I can do just fine at 10.75 and will experiment with lower. :science:

With the types of clouds the glass heater cover version can make at 12 and the level of extraction, I don't think I'd need the SS cover, but I sure do want one.

Dr. Plutonious · May 11, 2014

Ugh. I was showing the HI to a bunch of new people who all loved it last night. They got so high with it that first multiple people managed to drool down my glass mounted roasting tube...and then eventually somehow knocked it out and onto the ground breaking it. I lent my other roasting tube to my cousin in Canada and I'm currently in the States for the foreseeable future.

AHHHHHH. I like being a social stoner but man it's moment's like this that get me annoyed.

Dr. Plutonious · May 12, 2014

Though, I am getting some good practice on the turbo tube. Still prefer the roasting tubes but this is plenty good

slowandsteady · May 12, 2014

Dr. Plutonious said:
Though, I am getting some good practice on the turbo tube. Still prefer the roasting tubes but this is plenty good

Which roasting tube are you referring to?

EveryDayAmnesiac said:
I'm crazy about my Voltage Keeper! That guy is one cool dude and the two products seem made for each other. So nice to be able to take such a relaxed approach, with the low volts and my glass cover version... It's so enjoyable and relaxing...

I was also surprised with the lower voltages I can use, even though it's got the glass heater cover. I can't go quite as low as you and make a cloud, but I can do just fine at 10.75 and will experiment with lower.

With the types of clouds the glass heater cover version can make at 12 and the level of extraction, I don't think I'd need the SS cover, but I sure do want one.

All so true. I've tried the HI multiple times with the glass heater cover and really liked it, but wanted the SS heater cover as I love me some SS tip roasting tubes.

Dr. Plutonious · May 12, 2014

slowandsteady said:
Which roasting tube are you referring to?

The stainless steel ones you can have mounted onto a glass stem or wooden stem. I LOVE them. I find they give the most satisfying hits and have the best consistency to them. The turbo tube has a bettwe airflow, but I find I need to pack more into it for any kind of decent results. I use about a 1/3 as much in the stainless steel roasting tubes and get quite a few long, satisfying pulls from it before it goes dead.

slowandsteady · May 12, 2014

Dr. Plutonious said:
The stainless steel ones you can have mounted onto a glass stem or wooden stem. I LOVE them. I find they give the most satisfying hits and have the best consistency to them. The turbo tube has a bettwe airflow, but I find I need to pack more into it for any kind of decent results. I use about a 1/3 as much in the stainless steel roasting tubes and get quite a few long, satisfying pulls from it before it goes dead.

I'm going to have to take a look at the all SS roasting tubes and the wine cork tubes as well. Don't need anymore as I have 5 stems, but there is always a little room for more :nod:

Dr. Plutonious · May 12, 2014

Yeah, as much fun as the turbo tube was last night I already miss not having a roasting tube to use. I'll have to e-mail Alan soon...once I have some more available funds

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