Purple-Days availability

Purple-Days said:

Go, Saints. Now there is a strange team title. Hey, we have the Beavers, so not knocking it, just saying it's a strange thing to call a bunch of brutal footballers. Go Beavers!

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Yeah, some say that giving that name to a team from New Orleans is the reason they've been consistently horrible since their inception (a more popular one is the Superdome is built on ancient burial grounds). Angered God. I guess they can't say that now. Although we've still only won one or two playoff games in our history, and never been to the big game. I've been in Oregon for seven years now. I'm not into college ball though. And Ducks ranks right up there with Beavers and Saints.

so sorry to have caused all this

guys keep in mind that there's no way of gauging the way someone is saying something over the internet which is why im so surprised that people have gone so far as to say to throw me out of line

why would you do that?

i just asked a question, and im sorry nothing was directed at Tom

nothing was meant to be personal but clearly people are taking this personally just chill

im pretty sure we all want the same thing here....a PD and some baller ass bud no?

or are there people here for aroma therapy? lol wtf is that anyways?

Tom i'm sorry to have offended you

-Aaron

And I apologize for getting on your case about this elhoel.

It's just that there was much debate about this waiting list way back when Tom first decided to sub his distribution out to VapeNow, and that word "absurd waiting list" was thrown around a lot back then, so I kind of overreacted to that word when you used it.

I don't think you really offended anyone more than just bringing up some old issues of which you were not aware.

Here's hoping your wait is not too long, but know this. It's worth it.

elhoel, you didn't offend me. I just have to explain once in a while it's not as easy as saying, just hire people. Even if I had the manpower handy and they were looking for work, hiring an employee isn't as easy as it sounds. I am sure there are a few businessmen, nodding in agreement. Put it simply, employees are a pain in the ass.

As far as getting out of the line, that is certainly up to the individual. We don't want folks to be unhappy. And if the line is making anybody un-happy they should look at the Silver Surfer or other vapes that are well made, here in the USA, and available right now.

As far as the list. If you have one griddle and one cook, the line will be self regulating. People will wait or people will not wait. But, asking the cook to produce more... well it isn't going to be the same, and that's why folks are standing in line, cause it's one guy cooking what they want...

Now lets move on from this, whatever it was.

cool so my next question


are ALL of the parts made individually?

and how long did the design take to make?

how many iterations were there?

actually a few questions lol

Well there are about 190 pages of Purple-Days Experience to answer your questions, this thread was started for 'availability' questions and for consumers to share shipping ETA knowledge.

I'll try to give a brief answer to them though.
You ask,"are ALL of the parts made individually? " That question would need definition.
I take basic off the shelf materials and 're-manufacture' most of them into new components. Our power jack, as simple as that item is, goes through a couple of modifications before it is used. I get vapor tubes as 8' rods and machine them to make tubes. Stainless tubing comes in 5-7 foot lengths and is worked in various ways. Kiln Dried American Cherry comes in big slabs... Etc. etc.

"how long did the design take to make"... It's an evolutionary thing. Always trying to improve, I am an inventor. How long? Read the story of the crossbar and how it enabled me to use stainless steel as a material. I think that was a key turning point in our design, and it took... only a moment. Other design changes were more deliberate, based on years of real experience in several industries that relate to this work.

How many iterations? Hard to say. The heart of the unit, the stainless steel heat exchanger, probably went through 5 or 6 prototypes, and two later changes, from 60 fins to 72 fins... then from shiny fins to Dark Fin Technology using black oxide finished stainless fins. But fins were in the design from day one. The body shape has evolved a bit, but round from day one. We have experimented with a several exotic woods that didn't work or are no longer available.

Every single Purple-Days has been built with RoHS compliant parts and Stainless Steel, never a compromise, since day one. It's why we decided to make our own vape.

So the answer is many, and one. Always toxin free. Always RoHS compliant.

Stop in on the PD Experience thread, lots of this stuff is covered, and lots more. Including why I do the things I do. I have always tried to be transparent and honest. We have an open shop and purchase records back to day one. You have to trust what you breathe through, and the people who make it. Don't you?

hey elhoel,

i think you'll find most of the answers you seek in tom's first post in this thread:

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=48

we don't want tom to take too much time away from making those pds.

edit: looks like tom beat me to it by 57 seconds.

I have to agree with Tuttle on this one. The simple truth is that people are impatient, some more so than others. The uncertainty that surrounds the PD wait list is what gets to most people. I know I'm not a big fan of uncertainty, so when that uncertainty is stretched out over a long period, people tend to get a little antsy.

With that being said, I got on the waitlist knowing I would have to wait a while, so I'm definitely not complaining in that sense, but I do believe that the PD buyers should have at least a small idea of where they stand on the list, just to relieve that uncertainty and the false anticipation ("maybe this week?") most of us experienced.

Right now, I'm standing right at 11 weeks/78 days and my status says I'm on still on the waitlist. Order #2852.

Not sure what the estimated time was when I ordered it, but I was hoping to get it before Christmas...so much for that, but it's understandable because of the holiday stress and whatnot.

Hopefully this thing will be worth the wait...

Yukon Cornelius said:

Hopefully this thing will be worth the wait...

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Every post that I have ever read from those that were on the waiting list said that it was definitely worth the wait. I don't think I've read one that said otherwise.

Well, I'm on week 13, order #2772, and as of right now I'm still on the wait list.

The last fulfilled # is at least 2740, as you can see if you go a few pages back, approx. two weeks ago.

I hope this helps better gauge where you're at on the list.

Yukon Cornelius said:

Hopefully this thing will be worth the wait...

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It is well worth the wait. Trust me.I'm the pope.

Well I'm not the pope but I believe it IS very much worth the wait!!

Back in the old days before internet and ticketmaster.com or livenation.com I used to sleep outside to wait for concert tickets to go on sale. Back in the stone age if I ordered something over the phone (pre-web) I would have to wait 6-8 weeks for it to arrive, no online tracking, etc. just wait it out. My dad waited on a list for a specific guitar for several years eons ago.

Now many things happen much quicker these days but.... Good things come to those who wait I firmly do believe this! Society has come to expect instant gratification these days but some things are just darn worth waiting for.

yep, it surely is. It also helps to be active everyday, it really does pass time well when your working hard

Yeah, patience is a virtue indeed. But in this day, it is certainly possible for VapeNow to come up with a way to allow people to know where they stand in line, even just a number telling them how many is left before theirs is processed/shipped. I think that alone would cut out a lot of the questions concerning the wait period, because everyone would know where they stand on the list. Sure would be a lot more helpful than just a rough estimation. I'd rather know exactly where I'm at on the list, than just be given a rough window of time that I might receive my vaporizer. Just knowing that would give me the peace of mind to make it through the wait period.

Considering the Purple Days is Vape Now's most popular item(right?), they have no reason not to come up with a more logical tracking system. That way, your number on the list goes down just as fast as Tom ships them out. And you still have the wait-time estimate as a rough figure that you can go by...

Maybe what I just said has already been mentioned hundreds of times, but I believe we can all agree that the PD waitlist/tracking system could be a little more refined...especially considering it's prestige in the vaporizer world....

Hopefully I'll get it shortly after the new year...I can't wait to get my hands on this thing! haha

So, suggest a way that Vapenow can let you know 'exactly' where you are on the list without creating more labor and increased cost. Just remember, this isn't The Sims, this is real life and real business, using currently available technology.

Don't want to wait? Buy a Silver Surfer, quality product, American Made, available right now at Vapenow. No wait.

I don't quite understand, seems like a puny task to me. Like Something an entry level programmer could make in college.

Just assemble the list, and have it update every time new PD's are shipped. I'm no buisness man or no software engineer, but I'm familiar enough with computers to know that incorporating a ticket number style tracking system to a company web site is no daunting task whatsoever. And certainly would not increase labor or cost in any way.

If I'm sounding illogical, someone please enlighten me on this. I may be wrong, it seems like a real simple improvement to implement to the VapeNow website...

It would be easy for VapeNow to do that IF that was the only item they sold but those order numbers are not all PD's. I run an ecommerce site too and I think it would be quite difficult to single out one item to keep tabs on. Not saying it couldn't be done but with most website designs it isn't just a check a box type option on our website.

Heck when I was waiting for my 1st one I was thankful to be able to peek at this thread to guesstimate where I was in line. I understand the desire to know but I imagine it'd be difficult to keep tabs for VapeNow without someone manually keeping status updated or writing some special code to track it

Yukon Cornelius said:

I don't quite understand, seems like a puny task to me. Like Something an entry level programmer could make in college.

Just assemble the list, and have it update every time new PD's are shipped. I'm no buisness man or no software engineer, but I'm familiar enough with computers to know that incorporating a ticket number style tracking system to a company web site is no daunting task whatsoever. And certainly would not increase labor or cost in any way.

If I'm sounding illogical, someone please enlighten me on this. I may be wrong, it seems like a real simple improvement to implement to the VapeNow website...

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No, it sounds perfectly logical, but I think VapeNow addressed this awhile back with some answers as to why this could be quite cumbersome, but I just don't feel like digging back for that post. It's here somewhere though.

It would be easy for VapeNow to do that IF that was the only item they sold but those order numbers are not all PD's. I run an ecommerce site too and I think it would be quite difficult to single out one item to keep tabs on. Not saying it couldn't be done but with most website designs it isn't just a check a box type option on our website.

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Still seems easy enough, and since the PD is probably by far the highest selling product they have, it would be a simple and worthwhile "investment". I realize VN is not a huge company, but this is definitely a possibility for them.

Like I said, I'm no web designer, hell, I have trouble with simple HTML, but I just can't see any reason for them to not be able to implement something like that easily on an established commercial site like VapeNow.

Or occasionally the guys from vapenow could drop in to update us on the number?? I recently dropped off the wait-list and purchased a WZ until vapenow and Tom catch up later in the new year. Best of luck to everyone

pbmagnet4 said:

Or occasionally the guys from vapenow could drop in to update us on the number?? I recently dropped off the wait-list and purchased a WZ until vapenow and Tom catch up later in the new year. Best of luck to everyone

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Regarding catch-up, if demand continues to increase, they may never catch up. No guarantee's on that front.

I second the idea of someone from vapenow occasionally posting order #'s when something ships, but they certainly aren't required to.

I had to laugh at the post about not checking for your status multiple times a day as I agree completely that some folks are a little too intense about htis. I have been waiting about 11 weeks - do I want it? Sure. And having used my friend's I know how awesome it is, making me want it even more. But come on guys. Is waiting a few extra weeks really distracting from your lives? When you want something hand made and by all accounts superior to the other products on the market, you sometimes have to wait. When I ordered it said 9 weeks, now it's been almost 12. OK, life goes on. A few extra weeks is not going to ruin the whole experience. Tom clearly explains up front why these take a long time and also explains why there are unexpected delays. He doesn't have to do that but he does. Rather than get frustrated take your name off the list and get something else if you can't wait.

This is a great product. I'm just happy to be able to get a product like this and to be able to hear the inventor talk about it. Some day Tom won't be making these anymore and everyone would kill to be able to get one in 12-15 weeks instead of having to buy something inferior.

true that =]

Holy crap, I am 3551!

Put in my order just a few days ago though.

Got some glass and another portable vape in the mean time. I see no reason to get ansy anytime soon.

Tempted to buy a handful of accessories like whip rippers and a billy bowl, and perhaps a plug for the porch.

I think it would make the wait more agonizing though, ahaha.

Today is the start of week 9 on my PD adventure. #2942 ordered 10/18