Discontinued The Hammer Vaporizer

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Volute of Vapor
I tried my Hammer as a nail (directly in the heat exchanger), this method is really nice for tiny dabs but I tried a little bigger dab and a lot of oil is fallen in the stem, it was not a big deal since I can reclaim it, perhaps I don't heat enough (I prefer low temps dabs!).
Since I use it like a nail (a lot!) it fumes and smell a lot cause residues are burning when I preheat it, I'm just afraid that my unit becomes dirty and smell bad, how do you clean it after a dabbing sessions?
 

paytonpenn

Level 30 Nature/Healer
Heat through the residue hits, this is where a double stem will shine, if you're not double stemming the residue hits I find the butane flavor mixes with the oil vapor in a higher concentration.

The screen will really help you when it comes to bigger dabs, I highly recommend trying to make one otherwise it will just drip down hence why I originally had the cotton but have stopped using it.

I like to ISO a q-tip and clean both ends but haven't done that months, I don't notice oil flavor once I finish the residue hits and use it with herb, nor do I notice vapor coming from the inside when I heat it hot enough for the residue hits. But I now just torch the screen and it seems to be fine.

Mine hasn't became dirty and doesn't smell bad. I seriously just stopped cleaning the inside it didn't seem as needed but you'll definitely notice build up when you use a q-tip after a couple weeks of usage.

Here are some of my messages to Head Tools when we were privately discussing oil usage. Its pretty old but some information is still true and should be useful to anyone curious on my experience with oil and the Hammer
The residue the oil leaves will create vapor for about 5-8 draws, its light and I just heat the Hammer for about 7 seconds each draw.
They don't taste very great in comparison to the initial hit. But the initial hit tasted amazing, unfortunately the rigs I used weren't as clean as what I had for the Hammer, but I feel the Hammer tasted identical to the nails if not cleaner.

Even though I can't create vapor from residue hits I am still able to swab with cotton in the heatport and pull off residue. Cleaning is pretty easy though, I don't think I really would need to clean it unless I was switching to herbs immediately, but this is because of the leftover oil.

Still testing and loving this thing. I have recently added a SS screen in the heatport to help prevent excess oil from being wasted.

Watching Magic-Flight's concentrate tray video gave me the idea

I formed the screen into a "T" and "Y" shape, I imagine you guys could actually make a piece that would fit in a more perfect way, the screen does collect the oil but it yields the benefit of lowering a higher amount of oil that would have went all over the heatport and into the stem.

It would be great if the screen or Ti (T Y) plate could slip into the thin layer in between the heatports so it could absorb the heat better.

I found the T Y screen works best in the port you are inhaling from, it collects oil and you'll be able to keep vaping that. When inhaling from the opposite port you'll get light to no vapor.

I haven't been cleaning my Hammer but I always take that screen out for when I'm switching back to herb, haven't noticed the taste lingering, there could be a bit of oil on first heatup but I feel this to be feel expected.

I am a bit curious if I could get anything made to test, I understand the reasoning for the two stem method and would prefer a custom glass end for some tests.

I was thinking something that could fit on the lock on stem and kind of becomes a spike at the mouth end, but maybe not as sharp, and still will a thin flat opening, or hole if that is easier. Airflow shouldn't be affected too severely that when you inhale you feel like you're using force. I feel it would be most convenient if it was small, but I recently just got an idea that if it the stem had an oval shaped cutout and there was a glass rod or piece that touched the heatport to get warm or hot enough to melt the oil down the glass and closer to the heatport until it does touch and start actually vaporizing.

They could also preload the tongued stem with oil to prevent the hole.

Sorry if that didn't make sense I can explain it better if it sounds interesting or possible.

Would love to hear back on the t y screen opinion to.

In order to determine whether or not its up to temp I like to look in the end of the Hammer without and screen an around the 20 second mark of the initial heat I would notice a nice orange red glow in the heatport. I tended to notice it about 5 seconds after relighting for the residue hits. Just random info.
 
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hoyo77

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I have been much more comfortable and getting more consistent results with the water pieces.
I preheat, put stem on, release the button once it is getting thick clouds in the chamber, continue to pull, remove heat a few seconds later, and clear.

I have not gotten the same thick vapor out of a dry piece without scorching my meds. But dry, I still get great flavor, I just seem to have less temp control.



I will add, while it is great this device functions so well on minimal amounts, I wish it could handle large loads better. I don't want to be clearing/packing multiple bowls at night in bed. It would be much easier to be able to load one big one.
what type of stem do you have? I have a customer screenless stem and I can put close to double the amount than in the regular loc on stem.
 

chimpybits

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Hiya Hammerheadz, A friend recently received his first vape, the Hammer, and we're struggling a bit.

A little background: He's a regular, light smoker of the herb via a small glass pipe. He's had occasional vaporizing experience over the past couple of years via sessions with my SSV or PNP and friends' Solos. He has decided that he prefers smoking and the smoking high. However, a recent bout of bronchitis has spurred the decision. We chatted about the options, I made some recommendations, and he jumped on the 420 sale.

He wants something cheap, easy to use, effective, durable, and preferably portable. The Lotus was a good candidate (as well as providing a smoking-like ritual), but the Hammer won due to possible easier use and especially it's cheaper price at the time.

We received the unit yesterday and had a bit of a messy, but stoney time of it. We immediately struggled filling it, then understanding the fuel level indicator, then seeing the blue indicator, then seeing the ignition. But then my friend took the first hit and it was impressive. The second hit was after another 25 second warm-up which resulted in combustion and now we know better.

Out came the 2nd stem and we continued. We then managed to have hit after impressive hit through 2 stems worth. I was amazed at the easy, huge clouds. Biggest and bluest vape clouds I've seen.

Later we tried another stem, but had nothing but issues. The blue indicator wasn't appearing within 30 secs and ignition was only occasional. Likewise, with our attempts this morning. The inconsistent ignition is especially a nuisance. We would try checking the blue indicator, squinting at the fuel level indicator, attempting another refilling, giving it a rest, etc.

We certainly were feeling good, but it was pretty messy - we combusted a bowl, spilled another bowl (from a floppy stem) and went through gross amounts of butane (Colibri).

Too many things are unclear, sloppy, or inconsistent - the fuel level indicator, the ignition (sometimes subtle), the butane filling, and attaching the stem. I think if we can get the ignition sorted, this thing might deliver for my friend. It has to be easy or he'll reach for pipe and lighter.

Personally, I was amazed by its performance. Once working properly I would trade this for my PNP easily - far superior performance and taste. Though what it's got me really thinking about is the Lotus.

The ideal vape for my friend would be easy and enjoyable to use (simple, unfussy) and able to deliver big clouds and a stoney high within just a few hits. I'd say the Hammer delivered the goods, but was too frustrating. Help ...
 
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chimpybits

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Get acquainted with it. Ignition is just click and listen. Feel over the top to see if the flame is going without actually looking.
Yes, there is a noticeable difference in sound when it is ignited vs when it is just spewing butane. It is learned....
Had a short session giving this a test. Too short a sess and - wouldn't you know it - too few ignition fails to hear any diff.

Gotta say I'm in the starting out, lacking confidence in the device phase. In the unfortunate Is it me or is it the device that is malfunctioning phase.

I'm not yet confident in the ignition. If one inhales through the stem during failed ignition (i.e. no ignition but keeping button depressed), what is happening? I get that it is 'spewing butane' and I know that the butane path and air path are separate with the former venting off the top, but is the un-ignited butane being somehow inhaled ...?! or is one just inhaling the butane venting off the top? I know I got some butane tasting non-hits last night during our struggles.

Also, shouldn't the ignition success rate to be quite reliable? I expect a lighter to light. Fails being occasional, increasing as fuel runs out. Last night's performance was very poor for a period. Does it tire and need a break? Perhaps the fuel was running low and we weren't filling it properly.

Speaking of which, can anyone read the fuel level from the indicator or just that there is some?

The heat venting off the top tip seems a good one. This seems for now to be the easiest, more reliable check. Hopefully we'll get better acquainted with it - seeing and hearing ignition, etc - and move on to a more enjoyable phase of the relationship.
 
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ryan8

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Proper ignition has never been a problem for me - I don't think it failed to ignite even once. Never had trouble filling it either, and I've never owned butane lighters before. Seems like you should be able to tell immediately if you have ignition or not - there's a "roar" to the flame that makes my dog leave the room.

If it doesn't ignite consistently I'd get in touch with Hammer. At the same time, I'm not sure why you're even taking a hit (or even holding down the button) if you don't have ignition.

I turn the hammer sideways to have a better idea of the amount of butane left.
 

chimpybits

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Proper ignition has never been a problem for me - I don't think it failed to ignite even once. Never had trouble filling it either, and I've never owned butane lighters before. Seems like you should be able to tell immediately if you have ignition or not - there's a "roar" to the flame that makes my dog leave the room.

If it doesn't ignite consistently I'd get in touch with Hammer. At the same time, I'm not sure why you're even taking a hit (or even holding down the button) if you don't have ignition.

I turn the hammer sideways to have a better idea of the amount of butane left.
The sideways orientation is helpful. Thanks.

Hitting it w/o ignition was a function of lack of confidence recognizing whether or not it was igniting. After repeated ignition attempts whereby we would see no ignition flame or very subtle ignition, I tested the only other way I knew - inhaling for vapor/heat. Now, I have other ignition clues. And now I know ignition/non-ignition is obvious.

Not even a single failing to ignite?! We've surely had many. Sounding like a faulty unit. Then again, a fresh attempt with all of this help in mind may clear things up.
 
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Had a short session giving this a test. Too short a sess and - wouldn't you know it - too few ignition fails to hear any diff.

Gotta say I'm in the starting out, lacking confidence in the device phase. In the unfortunate Is it me or is it the device that is malfunctioning phase.

I'm not yet confident in the ignition. If one inhales through the stem during failed ignition (i.e. no ignition but keeping button depressed), what is happening? I get that it is 'spewing butane' and I know that the butane path and air path are separate with the former venting off the top, but is the un-ignited butane being somehow inhaled ...?! or is one just inhaling the butane venting off the top? I know I got some butane tasting non-hits last night during our struggles.

Also, shouldn't the ignition success rate to be quite reliable? I expect a lighter to light. Fails being occasional, increasing as fuel runs out. Last night's performance was very poor for a period. Does it tire and need a break? Perhaps the fuel was running low and we weren't filling it properly.

Speaking of which, can anyone read the fuel level from the indicator or just that there is some?

The heat venting off the top tip seems a good one. This seems for now to be the easiest, more reliable check. Hopefully we'll get better acquainted with it - seeing and hearing ignition, etc - and move on to a more enjoyable phase of the relationship.

Reading your issues many notes to tell:
- The size of the flame/pressure of spitting kind of depends on the tank level. norm is full tank or so for the setting
- To have refilled unit many times could bring propellant on the tank, so you should considerate these variations and a proper purged and refilled device is the norm
- I would bet on too high tuning for gaz flux. Is your unit functionning good only on low settings (0 to 1/4)?.
-Does the flux stop when you release the button or it continues to o spit?
-Many missed click?hammer functionning never miss any click. Flux is too high.

@chimpybits I would advise you to retune the setting of the valve down a bit to have a low temp hammer on the 0 setting on a full fresh purged tank.

On my first hammer i had a medieval torch in my hand with the hammer overtuned.
 

chimpybits

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Reading your issues many notes to tell:
- The size of the flame/pressure of spitting kind of depends on the tank level. norm is full tank or so for the setting
- To have refilled unit many times could bring propellant on the tank, so you should considerate these variations and a proper purged and refilled device is the norm
- I would bet on too high tuning for gaz flux. Is your unit functionning good only on low settings (0 to 1/4)?.
-Does the flux stop when you release the button or it continues to o spit?
-Many missed click?hammer functionning never miss any click. Flux is too high.

@chimpybits I would advise you to retune the setting of the valve down a bit to have a low temp hammer on the 0 setting on a full fresh purged tank.

On my first hammer i had a medieval torch in my hand with the hammer overtuned.
One purges by pressing the nail into the valve to let out all the remaining butane. As well one sets the Hammer dial to low before the purge. Yes?
I may attempt purging and lower fuel setting (flux?) next sess. As well as paying attention to the sound, etc. For now, sleep.
 

pakalolo

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One purges by pressing the nail into the valve to let out all the remaining butane. As well one sets the Hammer dial to low before the purge. Yes?
I may attempt purging and lower fuel setting (flux?) next sess. As well as paying attention to the sound, etc. For now, sleep.

My admittedly limited experience with butane devices is that it is appallingly easy to screw them up with a bad fill, and once you do they are really hard to ignite. I'd try a full purge, followed by chilling the Hammer in the freezer for a few minutes, then a new fill making sure that the flame adjustment is turned all the way down. Avoid shaking the butane can. Good luck. The Hammer is a great little tool.

The "blue indicator" is actually the flame, by the way.
 

LuckySeed777

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This video from a few pages back may help you with filling and purging. The blue flame should be seen as soon as the hammer is on. If you are in a kinda dark room you can see a blue glow from the top, I'll look there if I can't see from the side. If I can't see blue and it sounds strange I'll give it a quick second click. The sound difference to me is a torch lighter when on and a hiss like it's leaking when just the fuel is coming out. Good luck!

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chimpybits

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This video from a few pages back may help you with filling and purging. The blue flame should be seen as soon as the hammer is on. If you are in a kinda dark room you can see a blue glow from the top, I'll look there if I can't see from the side. If I can't see blue and it sounds strange I'll give it a quick second click. The sound diff to me is a torch lighter when on and a hiss like it's leaking when just the fuel is coming out. Good luck!
Thank you for this. I'll check for that blue glow next sess. The first video shows purging upside-down to evacuate the propellant (usual purging) and purging right-side up if you think you have bad butane. Perhaps I'll purge upside-down then right-side up.
My admittedly limited experience with butane devices is that it is appallingly easy to screw them up with a bad fill, and once you do they are really hard to ignite. I'd try a full purge, followed by chilling the Hammer in the freezer for a few minutes, then a new fill making sure that the flame adjustment is turned all the way down. Avoid shaking the butane can. Good luck. The Hammer is a great little tool.

The "blue indicator" is actually the flame, by the way.
Thanks Pak, I'll follow these instructions - though perhaps including upside-down and right side up purges. I suspect a bad fill or 2 is the culprit. In terms of filling should I feel a back pressure once filled? Or are peeps just stopping after a 3 second count?
 

chimpybits

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The moment you release, you kill the flame- try holding it down the entire time and see if you get better results
Oh yeah, I get this. The longer the flame on, the more heat and vapor. Not an issue as once it's going, it's fairly intuitive and the button release timing is fine and confirmed with copious clouds.

EDIT. Gonna now attempt a purge. Might have opportunity to test the device later today with a short sess.
 
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