Davinci by Karma

^ yep, the best is to bend the tip of a safety pin at less than a full 90 degree angle, say a 80 gegree angle and just bend about 1/8" worth of the tip. with the davinci upside down insert pin into chamber at slight angle and get ti pinto screen and then pull outward. it takes me a few tries but finally grabs. you should see dried matter fall out when you pull the screen. with the chamber screen removed I then use a safety pin without the tip bent and clean the four holes in the bottom of herb chamber just by poking it in the holes and moving it around, they usually do not clog but I use the davinci with a bubbler so the vape is upside down while I use it and vapor goes up into the little holes more then if the unit were used up right.

C No Ego said:

^ yep, the best is to bend the tip of a safety pin at less than a full 90 degree angle, say a 80 gegree angle and just bend about 1/8" worth of the tip. with the davinci upside down insert pin into chamber at slight angle and get ti pinto screen and then pull outward. it takes me a few tries but finally grabs.

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Great technique (also useful in other vapes). I've a couple of additional tips to offer. First 'draw the temper' on the tip of the pin first. That is, heat the last 3/16 inch or so with a small torch type lighter until it glows and then let it cool slowly. This will make the steel soft enough to bend easily without breaking (but still plenty strong to pull screens). When soft you don't need normal tools to make the bend, you can, for instance, tap the tip from one side with the back side of a soup spoon bowl.

Secondly, when you hook the mesh, do it near an edge and face the tip in to the center before you pull. This forces the screen harder onto the hook, rather than pulling it off.

One final thought, if you bend the hook back toward the head of the safety pin, you can safely store it between uses as you normally do a safety pin.

OF

My DaVinci has finally stopped. Today while the main power was off, it got so hot it began smoking. I loaded it as usual. Placed it in the console, about a minute later I could smell it. Pulled it out and smoke was pouring out. All the contents were turned black and to ash. Scariest part for me, i think is that it did it while the main power was off. Sad day.

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My DaVinci has finally stopped. Today while the main power was off, it got so hot it began smoking. I loaded it as usual. Placed it in the console, about a minute later I could smell it. Pulled it out and smoke was pouring out. All the contents were turned black and to ash. Scariest part for me, i think is that it did it while the main power was off. Sad day.

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I feel for you, it's still under the two year warranty so you will be getting the latest production model. I'm on my third (should be my fourth but I repaired # 3 rather than sending it back) and I love it but each time I turn it on I'm pleasantly surprised if it works, should not be this way. I purchased a Solo when # 3 failed (maybe 6 months ago) and it is an absolute rock of a performer. I have no anxiety whatsoever that the Solo is going to fail. The Davinci is more portable than the Solo but that's about it; in efficiency, taste, ease of cleaning, and, most importantly for me, reliability the Solo wins.

Hi I'v been lurking on the forums and decided to order myself a DV.

It should be coming today, but my question is, should I charge it up first and for how long, or will it be fine using the pre-charge?

Also I plan to use oils sometimes, whats the best mod for the oil carts. I saw that folding one of the screens and pushing it into a cart works, has anyone had any experience with this?

Edit: Well my DV arrived, I burned it in for 20 minutes, then I loaded it. I ran it at 170 c it tasted so good, then 180 still no noticeable vapor except under a light. I cranked it up to 190 and the clouds started coming, the taste wasnt as good but still nice. I decided to finish at 200 just for a test and still the thing was vaping, the ten minute switch off came on before i could finish it, but I was nicely medicated and decided to dump the abv in a tub for munchies later.

The only thing I had a problem with is the heat on the straw when taking a pull, it gets uncomfortable on the lips, so I tried it with some glass and it worked a charm, luckily the bowl is just making a nice fit on the straw. i might buy the snorkel for outside use, but for now, il just take smaller hits.

@Flan13 Welcome to FC. Congrats on your new DV. Thats awesome that you are enjoying it. Personally, I had such mixed results using the cans I gave up on them. The snorkle is a great choice for getting cooler vapor. The fun is just starting for you. As you get more accustomed to the DV and it's rituals, the more you will enjoy it. Have fun with it!

Flan13 said:

Hi I'v been lurking on the forums and decided to order myself a DV.

It should be coming today, but my question is, should I charge it up first and for how long, or will it be fine using the pre-charge?


Edit: Well my DV arrived, I burned it in for 20 minutes, then I loaded it.

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First off, howdy, welcome to the Forums, glad you've joined us. Hopefully you'll be sharing the fun here soon.

The answer to your question is 'yes, you should have fully charged it first'. This is the general rule for all such (Li ion) batteries as well as several of the other common battery types. Always a good default if you don't know for sure otherwise. Both total number of cycles (charging) and how much can be stored in each are impacted if you start cycling early. The general rule is to fully charge (until the unit shuts down charging), DV should be no exception.

Too bad you didn't pick that advice up lurking, it's common to lots (all?) the Li ion using Forums. There is very minimal risk doing it, and a proven downside to not.

Best advice is to try to limit the loss and immediately fully charge it before any more playing around.

FWIW, I too have had poor results with the cans. But I think the unit can give excellent results once you get some skills/experience built up with it. Remember, it's a convection vape which means you can pull way more hot air through it than you can use to make vapor. A 'less is more' case in a way. Extra hot air just wastes battery power and gets stuff hotter. Try sipping slowly and see what you get?

BTW, one other tip, keep your bud very dry going in and fouling will be much lower.

Enjoy your DV, many of us do you know. Well we enjoy ours, enjoying yours can be your job?

OF

Yeh I left the DV on charge, and burned it in then had a bowl with it still on charge, but still I guess i should have waited. It only took an hour before the 4 solid bars appeared. I'v had three 10 minute sessions unplugged, and the battery is still showing 3 bars, sometimes 2 when heating up or regulating, but it goes back up.

I tried a can with a small bit of cotton on the bottom and a screen sitting on top ( I put the cotton in for oils, which im going to try later on). It did vap...a little, the taste was there aswell, but it just wasnt as satisfying as just dumping it in the chamber, so thats exactly what i did.

The good thing about the DV is that theres a very small learning curve. The hit is strong from the start, the first time I took to long a draw and nearly coughed my lungs up. Im fairly new to vaporizers, I own an alivi8, which i cant get a decent pull with and has a very steep learning curve which I dont have the funds to waste herb on (dont get me started on sucking in all that butane and the occasional combustion), and have tried a friend desktop vap, that you can only get 1 or 2 pulls from before its out and you need to load it again, also it combust sometimes, my friend likes it when it does, i almost boke. Iv also tried volcanos, which are good but seem over priced and not stealthy enough for my liking. So back to the DV, I like how you can get different flavors/cloud production at different temps, also I saw some of the early videos of people having long vap sessions, but i didnt expect to be able to go the full 10 minutes with vap still coming. Since iv been dumping the abv and not firing her up a second time, I recon Im going to have some nice abv to munch on later on when i have enough. I did notice the abv was a lighter than most times, because i stopped vaping at 170 or 180 i cant remember, the previous times i finished at 190/200.

I cant wait to show my friend and show him a vaporizer that performs well and how it should.

Also after noticing a lot of people having problems with "off gassing" and a rubbery smell, I checked my unit, and there was no noticeable smell, except for a kind of oven heat smell when its on, nothing that even bothers me or is noticeable without me putting my nose the the heating element.

All in all im happy with my DV so far lets hope it doesnt crash out on me, but i guess the reason for so many people having problems on this forum is because more people reach out for help when needed, rather than give a review when all is working fine.

Also 0F Iv been getting used to the pull strength and your right less is more, thanks.

Should I let my DV drain battery fully or should I recharge when its down to 1 or 2 bars?

I can't believe people are still defending the Da Vinci as we speak today.. I got mine 2 months ago, a brand new 2014 model and guess what.. It out gasses to INFINITY!! Iv done all the factory residuals sessions to cure it and used it everyday for 2 months now. Not only my unit is different from my friends (His creates more vapor at 375 than mine at 405) but i barely get any vapor at max temp!! I spent the last 10 sessions heating it with an empty clean (isopropyl clean) chamber and all i see is smoke come out. VERY disappointing to know that they never rectified this issue even after hearing customers complain about it for 3 YEARS!! Also, what kind of quality control do they have there at the China factory? To have 2 new units perform completely different one from another?? I'm sure Leonardo Da Vinci is turning in his grave knowing that some stoners named a vaporizer after him.. and a sh$%# one at that.

1_gr8_underdog said:

@Tony Hemp are you storing it in the box it came in?

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... How would the box affect the taste?!?

swift6912 said:

I can't believe people are still defending the Da Vinci as we speak today.. I got mine 2 months ago, a brand new 2014 model and guess what.. It out gasses to INFINITY!! Iv done all the factory residuals sessions to cure it and used it everyday for 2 months now. Not only my unit is different from my friends (His creates more vapor at 375 than mine at 405) but i barely get any vapor at max temp!! I spent the last 10 sessions heating it with an empty clean (isopropyl clean) chamber and all i see is smoke come out. VERY disappointing to know that they never rectified this issue even after hearing customers complain about it for 3 YEARS!! Also, what kind of quality control do they have there at the China factory? To have 2 new units perform completely different one from another?? I'm sure Leonardo Da Vinci is turning in his grave knowing that some stoners named a vaporizer after him.. and a sh$%# one at that.

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Hello @swift6912 Welcome to FC. I believe your unit is most likely malfunctioning and you should contact DV for a warranty replacement.

swift6912 said:

... How would the box affect the taste?!?

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The foam in the box has a odor that sticks to the DV. It can affect taste because when your nose smells it, your tounge tastes it. Hope that you are able to get your units issues resolved.

Thanks but..

1_gr8_underdog said:

Hello @swift6912 Welcome to FC. I believe your unit is most likely malfunctioning and you should contact DV for a warranty replacement.

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Its ok i will get a refund and return it to the ebay seller.
I don't want to receive another unit that does the same.
Since iv been looking at forums and seeing how ppl had this issue in 2012, i am appalled that 2014 models are still doing this.

I'm sorry that your experiance with your DaVinci was poor. There are many portable solutions, each of which serve the needs of people differently. This is not a one size fits all journey. I hope that you find a device that can meet your needs. The most important thing is not to give up on vaping due to a poor experiance with one product or manufacture. There are many great options out there. I would start here. Then, if you have any questions, or would like any advice you could post a new thread in ask fc. We all are happy to help you on your path.

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I'm sorry that your experiance with your DaVinci was poor. There are many portable solutions, each of which serve the needs of people differently. This is not a one size fits all journey. I hope that you find a device that can meet your needs. The most important thing is not to give up on vaping due to a poor experiance with one product or manufacture. There are many great options out there. I would start here. Then, if you have any questions, or would like any advice you could post a new thread in ask fc. We all are happy to help you on your path.

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Thanks alot dude but i already own a v tower and i was looking for a portable vape..
I will go with the Solo but i don't like the design as much.. No matter what, i can't believe i was inhaling plastic fumes for 2 months.

Was it off gassing before you used it? Could just bedirty.

KidFated. said:

Was it off gassing before you used it? Could just bedirty.

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Yea it was out gassing after i cleaned it with isopropyl alcool even when i did 6 sessions it would still do it.

This was the absolute hardest vape i had i clean, if i had the slightest tiny tiny TINY bit of matter, I'd see offgassing. Lots of places for it to hang out. Especially under that bottom screen.

I cleaned those holes under the bottom screen and still..
Look at this though its very troubling..

Ohh.. Not cool..

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No matter what, i can't believe i was inhaling plastic fumes for 2 months.

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I'm with you as well. I too don't believe you (or anyone else) was inhaling "plastic fumes".

The 'mystery vapor' seems to be residual catalyst, a well understood area. As I posted before, NASA did a lot of public domain work on this if you're really interested.

Provided the materials are the more expensive 'food grade' (Platinum based IIRC), which we're assured they are, there is no toxic risk. Personal likes and wants can of course be different, but by conventional standards it's not a risk. And nothing to do with 'plastic vapor' as we'd normally define it.

If you're not happy with the DV, by all means continue the search for a vape that suits you. But I don't think you're going to have much luck convincing those of us who like ours and don't have this issue we're not happy with ours.....or shouldn't be.

There's just no getting around that point I think? I think most are inclined to 'believe your own lying eyes', first person experience is very persuasive.....most know when they're happy (until they find out what the other workers are making.....).

Good luck, IMO it's well worth the effort to find a vape you're happy with.

OF

swift6912 said:

I cleaned those holes under the bottom screen and still..
Look at this though its very troubling..

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@swift6912 Someone else posted the same pictures Back in this thread on page 117.

Whats UP with that ?????? This is an older White Da Vinci not a 2014.

Good detective work Rude. Whats up with all these trolls? We had a Mflb attack also all my fave vapes suck now?

KidFated. said:

Good detective work Rude. Whats up with all these trolls? We had a Mflb attack also all my fave vapes suck now?

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I hardly ever forget once I see a picture or video, And actually thought that picture is even older then the post on page 117.

I really think it's fucking very weird that anyone would take the time to re-post someone else's pic's and try to mislead people. Now I wanna know why and to what end. Crazy crazy world we live in.

RUDE BOY said:

@swift6912 Someone else posted the same pictures Back in this thread on page 117.

Whats UP with that ?????? This is an older White Da Vinci not a 2014.

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If my 2014 model is out gassing the same it was doing it back in 2012.. The inside must be looking similar right?
Probably you guy's will tell me" Oh you didn't clean it, it's the residue from your herb.." BS!! It's cleaner than a virgin's &^&* and it out gasses to INFINITY!!

OF said:

I'm with you as well. I too don't believe you (or anyone else) was inhaling "plastic fumes".

The 'mystery vapor' seems to be residual catalyst, a well understood area. As I posted before, NASA did a lot of public domain work on this if you're really interested.

Provided the materials are the more expensive 'food grade' (Platinum based IIRC), which we're assured they are, there is no toxic risk. Personal likes and wants can of course be different, but by conventional standards it's not a risk. And nothing to do with 'plastic vapor' as we'd normally define it.

If you're not happy with the DV, by all means continue the search for a vape that suits you. But I don't think you're going to have much luck convincing those of us who like ours and don't have this issue we're not happy with ours.....or shouldn't be.

There's just no getting around that point I think? I think most are inclined to 'believe your own lying eyes', first person experience is very persuasive.....most know when they're happy (until they find out what the other workers are making.....).

Good luck, IMO it's well worth the effort to find a vape you're happy with.

OF

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OK.. Regardless the fact that you say it's safe, are you telling that the smoke coming out doesn't bother you? It's not vapor it's smoke!! Isn't this forum suppose to be FUCKCOMBUSTION???